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Twizted Humanitarian
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:03 am


Parents in the Panhandle may face jail time if their children continue to skip school.

Officials in Escambia County are weighing a tough new penalty that says if children have 10 unexcused absences in 90 calendar days, their parents would be put behind bars.

Officials said children who miss that much school put their entire futures in jeopardy.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:42 pm


Damn Straight. It's about time people started holding parents accountable for their children.


I've had enough of parents placing the blame on outside sources. they need to own up to their responsibilies as parents and teach their kids how to act.

dronze


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:05 am


dronze
Damn Straight. It's about time people started holding parents accountable for their children.


I've had enough of parents placing the blame on outside sources. they need to own up to their responsibilies as parents and teach their kids how to act.


I totally agree. At the end of the day, children are in the custody of their parents.

If a dog bites someone, everyone asks where the owner is.

Whilst I am not comparing children to dogs per se, it is the same concept in so far as dogs are under the custodianship of their owners.
PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:24 am


wow you guys put up some good points originally I was against this but now I'm not so sure

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Syraenom

PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 1:39 pm


well, it would help teach children restraint. and probably force parents to be responsible, although I've heard once too many times "What's going on at home?" from school admin. It's not always the parents fault. But 1/9th of the days missed? I'd be suspicious too. So yeah, parents should be held responsible for kids skipping school, but the kids should be punished too, if the parents fail to get the hint. I mean few enough kids respect adults anymore. That sense of respect ought to be restored. The world is like enough to fall apart if it continues to deteriorate like this.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:50 pm


But if the student is sick or on vacation or something? My next door neighbors are Muslim and take a two month pilgrimmage to Mecca every year. Should they be pentalized for their beliefs?

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dronze

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:16 pm


those would be considered excused absences.... there are federal laws in place that mandate that schools allow students to take a leave of absence if it's for religious purposes.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:22 am


I cannot believe what I'm reading here. Put parents in jail for not forcing their kids to undergo mandatory brainwashing and conditioning designed to make the next generation more compliant? If children skip school, they are clearly doing so because they DO NOT WANT TO BE THERE! As for officials saying that children who miss too much school put their futures in jepordy, IT'S THEIR FUTURE! NOT THE PARENTS, NOR THE OFFICIALS. THEIRS! While I believe firmly that parents SHOULD take more responsibility for their children, and stop blaming outside sources, I ALSO believe that education is supposed to be about EDUCATING, not controlling. By endorsing this, you basically endorse handing our children to a governemt run facility, to be taught what the government has judged to be correct. Children that skip school are acting out of a need to be independent, to not be controlled by some supposedly higher authority. This is one of very few things I will all too readily argue about. I speak from my own experince of attending school, which I thouroughly detested.

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Twizted Humanitarian
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:04 pm


Priestess_Kelina
I cannot believe what I'm reading here. Put parents in jail for not forcing their kids to undergo mandatory brainwashing and conditioning designed to make the next generation more compliant? If children skip school, they are clearly doing so because they DO NOT WANT TO BE THERE! As for officials saying that children who miss too much school put their futures in jepordy, IT'S THEIR FUTURE! NOT THE PARENTS, NOR THE OFFICIALS. THEIRS! While I believe firmly that parents SHOULD take more responsibility for their children, and stop blaming outside sources, I ALSO believe that education is supposed to be about EDUCATING, not controlling. By endorsing this, you basically endorse handing our children to a governemt run facility, to be taught what the government has judged to be correct. Children that skip school are acting out of a need to be independent, to not be controlled by some supposedly higher authority. This is one of very few things I will all too readily argue about. I speak from my own experince of attending school, which I thouroughly detested.


Well I hope you're willing to pay welfare to them because I'm sure not, I like my money in my pocket, not other people's
PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 4:44 pm


Why let parents have reign over their children at all? Let's face it, the common person is stupid, and is much to busy with their own life to worry about their offspring and to ensure they study.

Let the government take care of the children, make them live in school in a compulsary government boarding school. The top students will be given access to higher education while the more commons will be trained to be workers in their future profession. Not everyone needs Grade 12 mathmatics if they are going to be farmers.

It'll also provide an opportunity to put a sense of patriotism and national unity into the little bastards, as well as proper discipline. Hell, we should conscript them when they turn 17 for the physical and mental education of bootcamp.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 8:10 am


FubarRedFerret
Why let parents have reign over their children at all? Let's face it, the common person is stupid, and is much to busy with their own life to worry about their offspring and to ensure they study.

Let the government take care of the children, make them live in school in a compulsary government boarding school. The top students will be given access to higher education while the more commons will be trained to be workers in their future profession. Not everyone needs Grade 12 mathmatics if they are going to be farmers.

It'll also provide an opportunity to put a sense of patriotism and national unity into the little bastards, as well as proper discipline. Hell, we should conscript them when they turn 17 for the physical and mental education of bootcamp.

question: if most people are stupid (which I believe) does that not make most of the people running the government stupid as well? How are they supposed to do a better job. and hello I want LESS taxes putting education in the hands of the gov't creates taxes, about farmers. then why don't people who are going to be farmers drop out and save us all some cash?
last point I do agree with though except for the draft. Someone who is forced into service is not going to fight as hard as someone who believes in the mission.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 5:55 pm


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Priestess_Kelina
I cannot believe what I'm reading here. Put parents in jail for not forcing their kids to undergo mandatory brainwashing and conditioning designed to make the next generation more compliant? If children skip school, they are clearly doing so because they DO NOT WANT TO BE THERE! As for officials saying that children who miss too much school put their futures in jepordy, IT'S THEIR FUTURE! NOT THE PARENTS, NOR THE OFFICIALS. THEIRS! While I believe firmly that parents SHOULD take more responsibility for their children, and stop blaming outside sources, I ALSO believe that education is supposed to be about EDUCATING, not controlling. By endorsing this, you basically endorse handing our children to a governemt run facility, to be taught what the government has judged to be correct. Children that skip school are acting out of a need to be independent, to not be controlled by some supposedly higher authority. This is one of very few things I will all too readily argue about. I speak from my own experince of attending school, which I thouroughly detested.


Well I hope you're willing to pay welfare to them because I'm sure not, I like my money in my pocket, not other people's


No, actually, I agree with your post, except the part where THEIR desicion to skip school makes ME responible for them. I recognize that those students who do skip school are not going to do as well as those who don't, but I would much rather make them live with it, then make them go to school to give them an equal chance. I highly doubt anyone TELLS these children to skip school, so they came to the decision to skip on their own, and they should deal with the consequencses of those actions. If that means they can't get a job, thats their problem. In the meantime, those of us who didn't skip school have a better chance, because we did stick with it and graduate.

Hint. This is basically how the college system works. You choose to go to a college and get a degree, you have a better future. If you choose not to go to college, then you're stuck trying to get a job with only a high shcool diploma. A lot of jobs out there require a college education, and there is the proof this system works. Why can't it be the same with high school or middle school? You choose to go to school, you have a better future, if not, then you don't. And if you don't, I am not obligated to support you with my taxes. It's your screwup, your mistake, deal with it. It may or may not be fair, but thats the way life works. Your choices now effect what happens to you later.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:31 pm


Jungle Soldier
FubarRedFerret
Why let parents have reign over their children at all? Let's face it, the common person is stupid, and is much to busy with their own life to worry about their offspring and to ensure they study.

Let the government take care of the children, make them live in school in a compulsary government boarding school. The top students will be given access to higher education while the more commons will be trained to be workers in their future profession. Not everyone needs Grade 12 mathmatics if they are going to be farmers.

It'll also provide an opportunity to put a sense of patriotism and national unity into the little bastards, as well as proper discipline. Hell, we should conscript them when they turn 17 for the physical and mental education of bootcamp.

question: if most people are stupid (which I believe) does that not make most of the people running the government stupid as well? How are they supposed to do a better job. and hello I want LESS taxes putting education in the hands of the gov't creates taxes, about farmers. then why don't people who are going to be farmers drop out and save us all some cash?
last point I do agree with though except for the draft. Someone who is forced into service is not going to fight as hard as someone who believes in the mission.

Most people are stupid, hence why they generally end up in their natural lower classes. However sometimes those of higher breeding give birth to stupid heirs, or do not properly bring up said heir and hence we come across an inferior within the realms of the elite.

Hence that was why monarchy eventually failed. That is why the government should be established based upon individual merit. Not by birth, wealth, nor by elections, which are decided by the common people who do not understand.


Taxes are a nessecity, also plenty of money will be saved as the education for the farmers and other lower class students will be to simply work in their chosen occupation for training wage. They will essentially be dropouts, that are employed.

To pay for that, I propose that we eliminate welfare.


As for the conscription. Utter BS.

The Imperial Japanese Army was made up of conscripts, as was everysingle army between WWI and WW2. And they fought like ********. Nowadays, those in the army are mostly sissies because of our highly reduced training standards, because we rely on volunteers, that means we have to make the army appear as a good career choice, which means we can't enforce discipline and training as we could if we brought in every man and beat the crap out of them till they were tough, obedient, and highly trained.

If you look at the military in most 1st world countries, you'll notice the recruits are either college students joining for the money, and idiotic hicks who wouldn't be able to find another job. Not all mind you, just most.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2007 6:41 pm


As for the conscription. Utter BS.

Well look at our military in Vietnam, we were complete ignorant, intolerant, jerks. A number of our soldiers raped the civilians just to get some action, a lot of them smoked pot, to deal with the fact that they were forced to fight. In my mind the draft is not right for America because we are too used to freedom.

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Hentai_Heitai_FRF

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:03 am


Jungle Soldier
As for the conscription. Utter BS.

Well look at our military in Vietnam, we were complete ignorant, intolerant, jerks. A number of our soldiers raped the civilians just to get some action, a lot of them smoked pot, to deal with the fact that they were forced to fight. In my mind the draft is not right for America because we are too used to freedom.


That's because:
1. Those enrolled in college or other secondary education were free from the fradt.
2. The others ran away to Canada.
3. Those that didn't run away to Canada, nor could afford a better education tended to be the southern country hicks.
4. Hippie movement, it was cool to be against the war, man. You also got the benefit of free love and booze. Looked a lot more appealing then fighting in a jungle for most men.
5. American culture has too much freedom, hence why they couldn't crack down, nor inspire patriotism into the people.

But that doesn't mean conscription can't work, it'll just take a few years to get people used to it again.
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