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Graceangel

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:38 am


hehe... ya know... when your friend was defending hynosis.. that sounded almost just like your own argument.. why not use her defense of hypnosis as anology/metaphor for exactly how the Lord is... and maybe instead of just using the word God with her.. try using Jesus Christ. Let me tell you something... devils believe there is a God and tremble.. but, when you say his name, you bring with you a different kind of power.. because even the wickedness of this world cannot stand up to his name. He alone has gained victory over the grave.

And, the problem with the arguments people put up like your friend did; they want proof. But, men believe with their hearts, not their minds. Why is it that when you fall in love with someone, that nothing makes sense? People who are blind in love; they can't see another's faults... It's not about wanting to believe it or not or needing proof. In their heart, they are already persuaded of a fact. That state of being persuaded of such a conviction is exactly what it is to have faith. It says that those who come to him must first believe that He is; and that he is a rewarded of them who diligently seek him.

However, I'd like to interject... that in this day. When we take the Gospel out to people.. there will be many who don't believe. This growing spirit of anti-christians in the world today. It just fulfills scripture. It said in the last days; there would be a great falling away. The hearts of many would wax cold. People have itching ears, hitching to themselves people who teach them what they want to hear. I think nowadays people purposefully refuse to believe even if they would. They don't want to believe because accepting the truth means accepting they have sin and would have to face consequences. So, they refuse faith in order to live any way they want without thought or care for our great Lord. But, you should tell people like that; even if they purposefully choose to disbelieve, their disbelief won't save them from hell. Just because they won't believe in Christ, heaven or hell, that doesn't mean they won't still go there.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 4:32 pm


Graceangel
hehe... ya know... when your friend was defending hynosis.. that sounded almost just like your own argument.. why not use her defense of hypnosis as anology/metaphor for exactly how the Lord is... and maybe instead of just using the word God with her.. try using Jesus Christ. Let me tell you something... devils believe there is a God and tremble.. but, when you say his name, you bring with you a different kind of power.. because even the wickedness of this world cannot stand up to his name. He alone has gained victory over the grave.

And, the problem with the arguments people put up like your friend did; they want proof. But, men believe with their hearts, not their minds. Why is it that when you fall in love with someone, that nothing makes sense? People who are blind in love; they can't see another's faults... It's not about wanting to believe it or not or needing proof. In their heart, they are already persuaded of a fact. That state of being persuaded of such a conviction is exactly what it is to have faith. It says that those who come to him must first believe that He is; and that he is a rewarded of them who diligently seek him.

However, I'd like to interject... that in this day. When we take the Gospel out to people.. there will be many who don't believe. This growing spirit of anti-christians in the world today. It just fulfills scripture. It said in the last days; there would be a great falling away. The hearts of many would wax cold. People have itching ears, hitching to themselves people who teach them what they want to hear. I think nowadays people purposefully refuse to believe even if they would. They don't want to believe because accepting the truth means accepting they have sin and would have to face consequences. So, they refuse faith in order to live any way they want without thought or care for our great Lord. But, you should tell people like that; even if they purposefully choose to disbelieve, their disbelief won't save them from hell. Just because they won't believe in Christ, heaven or hell, that doesn't mean they won't still go there.

Well, we apparently have different beliefs...but could you pray for her anyways?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:36 pm


Of course, but what did you mean by "we have different beliefs"? we being you and me? or we being you and her? If you mean me and you, I'm curious to see where you believe differently.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 10:30 am


is it ok if we pm about this? because i fear you've misunderstood how i meant that.. and this is a thread for prayer requests and not our discussion... we are terribly OT... but, I'd like to discuss this with you still.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 8:29 pm


I think whats trying to be presented here is the fact that everyone still has a chance, no matter what we do. 3nodding
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 1:57 am


I have a few friends that really need alot of prayer....I have been praying myself for them and trying to talk to them....I'm leaving them in God's hand....They really need God in their lives....One of them has just fallen back a good ways from God and the others haven't even had a relationship with God yet
Also my family as been falling apart and alot of my family needs to find God in their lives
As for myself though I have been praying for them and everything.....First off I really need to take care of things in my life before I can help my friends and family....I know to leave everything in God's hand with my family, friends and my life
I just have been getting into things I know are sin and I keep getting myself deeper and deeper into sin falling back from God myself and I know if I want to stand for my friends and family I need to let God fixes things in my life

Kyrla


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 12:06 pm


My church has been burned down for three years. (excuse my poor grammar skills crying ) We are forced to rent a church for our services, and it's a huge stress on my dad (I'm a PK). We can't rebuild as quickly as we would like to, because the neighbors around the church site are very much against us. The city is also against us. It's a strain on our money supply and congregation. Please, pray for us.
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:59 pm


Kyrla
I have a few friends that really need alot of prayer....I have been praying myself for them and trying to talk to them....I'm leaving them in God's hand....They really need God in their lives....One of them has just fallen back a good ways from God and the others haven't even had a relationship with God yet
Also my family as been falling apart and alot of my family needs to find God in their lives
As for myself though I have been praying for them and everything.....First off I really need to take care of things in my life before I can help my friends and family....I know to leave everything in God's hand with my family, friends and my life
I just have been getting into things I know are sin and I keep getting myself deeper and deeper into sin falling back from God myself and I know if I want to stand for my friends and family I need to let God fixes things in my life

Praying 3nodding
Yumi_Kotoba
My church has been burned down for three years. (excuse my poor grammar skills crying ) We are forced to rent a church for our services, and it's a huge stress on my dad (I'm a PK). We can't rebuild as quickly as we would like to, because the neighbors around the church site are very much against us. The city is also against us. It's a strain on our money supply and congregation. Please, pray for us.

and praying! 3nodding

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:01 pm


Hi everyone,

I've been having some issues lately with rebellion and dealing with life and people. I suppose it is an attitude problem, everyone sees me as being the one with the problem.
well, I am only worried that the issues might distract me from keeping a close relationship with God. already I feel less like going to church because of everyone that is there and I no longer want to go to prayer meeting for the same reasons. I could use a lot of prayer and maybe advice.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:19 pm


Im praying but what you need to do is give it all to God. let Him take all that away. Im sure your going through the stages we've all either gone through or soon will. I dont know what the full thing is but that's what I can offer from my small amount of wisdom.

The Samurai
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flineagle

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 2:02 pm


The Samurai
Im praying but what you need to do is give it all to God. let Him take all that away. Im sure your going through the stages we've all either gone through or soon will. I dont know what the full thing is but that's what I can offer from my small amount of wisdom.

thanks
PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 12:48 pm


Ok... I normall don't post here for prayer... but here goes nothing...

I got two things on my mind today. One is the tons of work I have to do for finals... I need concentration and speed(being on gaia isnt helping...) I got alot to do before BSF tonight...

The second I have talked to some of you about (thanks for praying Lith) and that is what Im doing next fall.. I've been trying to go to a Bible college in Colorado for a while now but I don't think Im going to go there... I found another one in southern cali that is both cheaper tuition-wise and travel-wise. I really wanna go to the one in Colorado but I doubt I'll be able. I need God's guidance in this one and it has been in my prayers for a while... thanks all!

The Samurai
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Yumi_Kotoba

PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:37 pm


i need prayer. lately i'm struggling with tempation and rebellion. please pray that God will strengthen me and keep me going. heart
PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:01 pm


i SHALL PAY FOR YOU ALL BUT I HAVE A PRARER REQUEST MYSELF MY BROTHERS BAND EXODUS 20:17 THERE ARE 2 IMITURE PEOPLE IN IT THEY TREAT THE PERSON THAT GETS THEM ALL THE GIGS AND SPONERSHIPS AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND ALL OF IT FOR FREE PLEASE AND SHES THINKIN ABOUT WALKING AND MY BROTHER THE BASS GUITAR PERSON AND HE SON HAVE SAID THAT IF SHE WALKS THEY WALK AND IF THEY WALK THE TRUMPET PLAYER WILL WALK AND THE BAND WILL FALL APART AND I KNOW THAT ALL 8 OF THE PEOPLE WANT THIS TO WORK BUT THEY TREAT MRS. BRENDA LIKE CRAP SO PRAY FOR HER BRENDA ROBINSON TO STAY STRONG AND PRAY FOR BILLY AND JEREMY TO GET PERSONALITIES FOR HER OR EXODUS 20:17 WILL SOON BE NO MORE AND I LOVE MY BROTHER AND HE PLAYS WITH ALL OF HIS HEART AND IF HE LOSES THIS BAND IT WILL BREAK HIS HEART HE MAY BE A BIZZY PERSON HE WORKS AND GOES TO SCHOOL HAS A GIRLFREIN AND STILL SEEMS TO MAKE AL THE WENDSDAY NIGHT PRACTICES AND GIGS. SO PLEASE PRAY FOR THEM TO GET THERE CRAP TOGETHER

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