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 Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:10 pm
Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul GrimPumkin You're right about how we aren't as close to god as the aposles (I think that's the correct spelling). You're also correct about how god speeks through the bible. Also, you're right about me saying they never met jesus, my intention was to say that they got their facts from normal people years after Jesus had been resorected. I did some studying last night and I think I was wrong about there being contradictions in the new testement. There aren't contredictions, just different vewpoints. yup. now I get you. See, when people starts having their own interpretations to the bible it gets confusing. What we're supposed to do is ask God to interprete the bible for us. That way you're listeningto the Holy Spirit speaking the word to you, insted of just reading it yourself. Talking about people adding their own interpretations to the bible, from a guy who ranted for a page and a half about how wine in the bible was non-alcoholic ? i'm not sure that stacks up on my logicmeter. but i do agree with what you say. what I said about the wine was not an interpretation of the bible, it was actually something I studied in history class. realy? because i couldn't help noticing that your claim was mistaken. any way we have been off topic in this debate for a page or so now. back to the original topic. To drink or not to drink? I'd say not to drink at all. Let's say you can resist temptation and you can control yourself and not get drunk. but being seen drinking is not good for your testimony.
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:17 pm
Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul GrimPumkin You're right about how we aren't as close to god as the aposles (I think that's the correct spelling). You're also correct about how god speeks through the bible. Also, you're right about me saying they never met jesus, my intention was to say that they got their facts from normal people years after Jesus had been resorected. I did some studying last night and I think I was wrong about there being contradictions in the new testement. There aren't contredictions, just different vewpoints. yup. now I get you. See, when people starts having their own interpretations to the bible it gets confusing. What we're supposed to do is ask God to interprete the bible for us. That way you're listeningto the Holy Spirit speaking the word to you, insted of just reading it yourself. Talking about people adding their own interpretations to the bible, from a guy who ranted for a page and a half about how wine in the bible was non-alcoholic ? i'm not sure that stacks up on my logicmeter. but i do agree with what you say. what I said about the wine was not an interpretation of the bible, it was actually something I studied in history class. realy? because i couldn't help noticing that your claim was mistaken. any way we have been off topic in this debate for a page or so now. back to the original topic. To drink or not to drink? I'd say not to drink at all. Let's say you can resist temptation and you can control yourself and not get drunk. but being seen drinking is not good for your testimony. I will give my testimony with a beer in my hand. drinking is not an unchristian activity thus it shouldn't hurt my delivering my word to people. the only issue i have wiht drinking is gettign drunk. but then it's been a long time since i've been drunk ( i think i was 15 back then) i had a very rough night. the next few years i spent with my father who taught me to drink responsibly. now when i feel myself on the edge of drunkeness i stop drinking. it's not that dificult if you know what you are doing.
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:19 pm
Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected Talking about people adding their own interpretations to the bible, from a guy who ranted for a page and a half about how wine in the bible was non-alcoholic ? i'm not sure that stacks up on my logicmeter. but i do agree with what you say. what I said about the wine was not an interpretation of the bible, it was actually something I studied in history class. realy? because i couldn't help noticing that your claim was mistaken. any way we have been off topic in this debate for a page or so now. back to the original topic. To drink or not to drink? I'd say not to drink at all. Let's say you can resist temptation and you can control yourself and not get drunk. but being seen drinking is not good for your testimony. drinking is not an unchristian activity. Why the hell do you always say this kind of stupid comments like you are absolutely right and you couldn't be contradicted. I hate it.
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:50 pm
Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected Talking about people adding their own interpretations to the bible, from a guy who ranted for a page and a half about how wine in the bible was non-alcoholic ? i'm not sure that stacks up on my logicmeter. but i do agree with what you say. what I said about the wine was not an interpretation of the bible, it was actually something I studied in history class. realy? because i couldn't help noticing that your claim was mistaken. any way we have been off topic in this debate for a page or so now. back to the original topic. To drink or not to drink? I'd say not to drink at all. Let's say you can resist temptation and you can control yourself and not get drunk. but being seen drinking is not good for your testimony. drinking is not an unchristian activity. Why the hell do you always say this kind of stupid comments like you are absolutely right and you couldn't be contradicted. I hate it. ok in this time i realy am right. i have one word that proves the consumption of alcohol is not a sin. Comunion. a practice through which every church represents the eating of Christs body ( represented by bread) and the drinking of christ's blood (represented by wine) in the old days they used actual wine (with alcohol) INSIDE A CHURCH. (so were all the early churches Heretics? or is drinking in reasonable amounts ok?) an they did it at every mass. I don't think they still use alcoholic wine anymore, mostly because of the drinking ages in most countrys being somewhere in the mid to late teens. (or 21 in the states). NOt for religious reasons but for legal ones.
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 6:08 pm
Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected realy? because i couldn't help noticing that your claim was mistaken. any way we have been off topic in this debate for a page or so now. back to the original topic. To drink or not to drink? I'd say not to drink at all. Let's say you can resist temptation and you can control yourself and not get drunk. but being seen drinking is not good for your testimony. drinking is not an unchristian activity. Why the hell do you always say this kind of stupid comments like you are absolutely right and you couldn't be contradicted. I hate it. ok in this time i realy am right. i have one word that proves the consumption of alcohol is not a sin. Comunion. a practice through which every church represents the eating of Christs body ( represented by bread) and the drinking of christ's blood (represented by wine) in the old days they used actual wine (with alcohol) INSIDE A CHURCH. (so were all the early churches Heretics? or is drinking in reasonable amounts ok?) an they did it at every mass. I don't think they still use alcoholic wine anymore, mostly because of the drinking ages in most countrys being somewhere in the mid to late teens. (or 21 in the states). NOt for religious reasons but for legal ones. Wine back in those days didn't contain alcohol. But let's pretend you're right. I never said drinking wine (with or without alcohol) was a sin. I said being seen drinking is not good for your testimony. How? simple: People you preach too will not know how much you drank. If they see you preaching after they saw you drinking they will label you as hypocrite, and they won't really listen to you.
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Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:59 pm
Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected realy? because i couldn't help noticing that your claim was mistaken. any way we have been off topic in this debate for a page or so now. back to the original topic. To drink or not to drink? I'd say not to drink at all. Let's say you can resist temptation and you can control yourself and not get drunk. but being seen drinking is not good for your testimony. drinking is not an unchristian activity. Why the hell do you always say this kind of stupid comments like you are absolutely right and you couldn't be contradicted. I hate it. ok in this time i realy am right. i have one word that proves the consumption of alcohol is not a sin. Comunion. a practice through which every church represents the eating of Christs body ( represented by bread) and the drinking of christ's blood (represented by wine) in the old days they used actual wine (with alcohol) INSIDE A CHURCH. (so were all the early churches Heretics? or is drinking in reasonable amounts ok?) an they did it at every mass. I don't think they still use alcoholic wine anymore, mostly because of the drinking ages in most countrys being somewhere in the mid to late teens. (or 21 in the states). NOt for religious reasons but for legal ones. Wine back in those days didn't contain alcohol. But let's pretend you're right. I never said drinking wine (with or without alcohol) was a sin. I said being seen drinking is not good for your testimony. How? simple: People you preach too will not know how much you drank. If they see you preaching after they saw you drinking they will label you as hypocrite, and they won't really listen to you. Well if you think about it people who are gonna nail us for being hypocrits about drinking arent really looking to listen to us in the first place. At that point they just want to put us down in anyway possible, low blows if you must. Well thats what i get from something like that anyway.
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Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 8:47 pm
Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected realy? because i couldn't help noticing that your claim was mistaken. any way we have been off topic in this debate for a page or so now. back to the original topic. To drink or not to drink? I'd say not to drink at all. Let's say you can resist temptation and you can control yourself and not get drunk. but being seen drinking is not good for your testimony. drinking is not an unchristian activity. Why the hell do you always say this kind of stupid comments like you are absolutely right and you couldn't be contradicted. I hate it. ok in this time i realy am right. i have one word that proves the consumption of alcohol is not a sin. Comunion. a practice through which every church represents the eating of Christs body ( represented by bread) and the drinking of christ's blood (represented by wine) in the old days they used actual wine (with alcohol) INSIDE A CHURCH. (so were all the early churches Heretics? or is drinking in reasonable amounts ok?) an they did it at every mass. I don't think they still use alcoholic wine anymore, mostly because of the drinking ages in most countrys being somewhere in the mid to late teens. (or 21 in the states). NOt for religious reasons but for legal ones. Wine back in those days didn't contain alcohol. But let's pretend you're right. I never said drinking wine (with or without alcohol) was a sin. I said being seen drinking is not good for your testimony. How? simple: People you preach too will not know how much you drank. If they see you preaching after they saw you drinking they will label you as hypocrite, and they won't really listen to you. I don't understand why you still think that wine wasn't alchoholac? We've gone over this. If you really think that there wasn't alchohole in wine then offer some legitamate facts. Also, if you are going to give Lazarus a hard time about what you think is a dumb comment you should try and listen to yourself.
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:28 am
GrimPumkin Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected drinking is not an unchristian activity. Why the hell do you always say this kind of stupid comments like you are absolutely right and you couldn't be contradicted. I hate it. ok in this time i realy am right. i have one word that proves the consumption of alcohol is not a sin. Comunion. a practice through which every church represents the eating of Christs body ( represented by bread) and the drinking of christ's blood (represented by wine) in the old days they used actual wine (with alcohol) INSIDE A CHURCH. (so were all the early churches Heretics? or is drinking in reasonable amounts ok?) an they did it at every mass. I don't think they still use alcoholic wine anymore, mostly because of the drinking ages in most countrys being somewhere in the mid to late teens. (or 21 in the states). NOt for religious reasons but for legal ones. Wine back in those days didn't contain alcohol. But let's pretend you're right. I never said drinking wine (with or without alcohol) was a sin. I said being seen drinking is not good for your testimony. How? simple: People you preach too will not know how much you drank. If they see you preaching after they saw you drinking they will label you as hypocrite, and they won't really listen to you. I don't understand why you still think that wine wasn't alchoholac? We've gone over this. If you really think that there wasn't alchohole in wine then offer some legitamate facts. Also, if you are going to give Lazarus a hard time about what you think is a dumb comment you should try and listen to yourself. Thanks Grim. i'm guessing you know how easy it is to tell how many someone has had, or at least wheter or not they are drunk yet. never testify while shitfaced ut then again i don't realy ever get that drunk so i don't have to worry about it.
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 9:34 am
Just remember. A sinner will always try to justify himself.
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 2:38 pm
Victum Soul Just remember. A sinner will always try to justify himself. Very true, but everyone is a sinner. So don't try and look down on anyone.
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 3:48 pm
Victum Soul Just remember. A sinner will always try to justify himself. yeah but on the other hand keeping within the scriptural guidelines by which you seem compelled to live your life is pertectly ok. see i drnk the bible says "dont get drunk" i don't get drunk, not because the bible says so but because i don't like being drunk. i don't consider drinking a sin. therefore i feel no guilt thus i don't feel a need to justify myself to you or to any one else. in short i'm not tryign to justify my actions i'm merely informing you as to what my actions are so thatyou might understand them and me better.
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:24 pm
Demon princess of Love personnally I don't plan on drinking untill I'm 21. Not because of the drinking age (because it's 19 here) but because I want to wait until my liver is fully developped. I like my liver 3nodding Your Liver is evil. it needs to be punished. i read that on a button once.
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:45 pm
mesh-the-lonely if you cant imagine jesus doing it dont do it. this is the dumbest advice i have ever heard. i mean lets examine this for a moment. do you think that you could imagin jesus wearing a spiked collar having his nipples pierced, being tattooed or wearing a long black coat in the summer time? i guess i should change my sty;e then.
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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 8:54 pm
Lazarus The Resurected mesh-the-lonely if you cant imagine jesus doing it dont do it. this is the dumbest advice i have ever heard. i mean lets examine this for a moment. do you think that you could imagin jesus wearing a spiked collar having his nipples pierced, being tattooed or wearing a long black coat in the summer time? i guess i should change my sty;e then. I think the dumbest thing to do is say that kind of stuff about ANY advice you're given.
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Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:19 pm
Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected mesh-the-lonely if you cant imagine jesus doing it dont do it. this is the dumbest advice i have ever heard. i mean lets examine this for a moment. do you think that you could imagin jesus wearing a spiked collar having his nipples pierced, being tattooed or wearing a long black coat in the summer time? i guess i should change my sty;e then. I think the dumbest thing to do is say that kind of stuff about ANY advice you're given. that deppends. if advice is actualy good then take it. but advice like the example shown is most definitely not profitable. i mean think abotu that for a second. i can't imagin jesus ever wearing sneakers. thsi i shouldn't? that can't be right.
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