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Friendly Conversationalist
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Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 6:55 am
Just going to let you know now. If Laxus slaps Kensei, let's just say he can forget his dream of becoming Raikage.
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Posted: Mon May 20, 2013 12:20 pm
Okay, shooting him with lightning is the better option then.
Wouldn't killing Laxus mean that Kensei would never be an ANBU?
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:47 pm
Would a Clone trick Laxus' metal sensing perception? Like would the clone Kensei is using be holding what felt like metal to Laxus?
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:07 pm
Unless the clone is made of metal (Which we don't have one that is.), it doesn't inherently have any metal.
Honestly I'm seriously considering (On the level of planning at this point) removing the metal sensing ability. It made sense at the time, simply because the user can "Feel" what they can control, but as you have aptly shown many times since it's implementation, it becomes a serious hassle, and even OP. Espionage/Assassin spec's stealth bonus means nothing if they can be "Sensed" regardless, a sensor profession or bloodline becomes weak in comparison in their tracking skills, actual clans/bloodlines based on tracking don't have nearly the same level of ability... All facts rolled into a ball together, it becomes a massive problem.
I wouldn't be opposed to keeping it as a jutsu though, since actively attempting the act makes significantly more sense than having it as a passive benefit.
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:44 pm
I was just making sure. ^>^
Yeah, I knew it would mess with assassins, and since Shikaku doesn't have any actual techniques aside from Henge, and a couple others, it would be fairly difficult for him to fight someone with the bloodline. A sensor isn't implemented aside from Mind's Eye, and they're more geared toward healing in this guild. Do we actually have a tracking bloodline/clan in the guild? O.o
I don't mind it being turned into a technique, though it should be for a low cost, not D rank unless it lasts for like 10 posts or something. An E rank for 5 posts would actually be pretty balanced I think. [in my horribly unbalanced mind. DARN YOU D&D!!!!!]
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:23 am
Hinote Tosatsu Unless the clone is made of metal (Which we don't have one that is.), it doesn't inherently have any metal. Honestly I'm seriously considering (On the level of planning at this point) removing the metal sensing ability. It made sense at the time, simply because the user can "Feel" what they can control, but as you have aptly shown many times since it's implementation, it becomes a serious hassle, and even OP. Espionage/Assassin spec's stealth bonus means nothing if they can be "Sensed" regardless, a sensor profession or bloodline becomes weak in comparison in their tracking skills, actual clans/bloodlines based on tracking don't have nearly the same level of ability... All facts rolled into a ball together, it becomes a massive problem. I wouldn't be opposed to keeping it as a jutsu though, since actively attempting the act makes significantly more sense than having it as a passive benefit. Well, I think we need to tone down the ability to sense metal. I think personally they should be able to detect stationary metal to some degree as a base bloodline benefit, however I think it should be increasingly difficult to detect metal that is moving. This way with each rank of speed comes a more difficult ability to track the movement of metal efficiently. As a side note, I actually have a clone involving metal as one of my customs.
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 11:39 am
Really I was just wondering because if there is not metal on the clone, it is somewhat easy to tell if it is a clone. But if you just hand it a Kunai, then Laxus is pretty much lost. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:09 pm
Luo1304 Hinote Tosatsu Unless the clone is made of metal (Which we don't have one that is.), it doesn't inherently have any metal. Honestly I'm seriously considering (On the level of planning at this point) removing the metal sensing ability. It made sense at the time, simply because the user can "Feel" what they can control, but as you have aptly shown many times since it's implementation, it becomes a serious hassle, and even OP. Espionage/Assassin spec's stealth bonus means nothing if they can be "Sensed" regardless, a sensor profession or bloodline becomes weak in comparison in their tracking skills, actual clans/bloodlines based on tracking don't have nearly the same level of ability... All facts rolled into a ball together, it becomes a massive problem. I wouldn't be opposed to keeping it as a jutsu though, since actively attempting the act makes significantly more sense than having it as a passive benefit. Well, I think we need to tone down the ability to sense metal. I think personally they should be able to detect stationary metal to some degree as a base bloodline benefit, however I think it should be increasingly difficult to detect metal that is moving. This way with each rank of speed comes a more difficult ability to track the movement of metal efficiently. As a side note, I actually have a clone involving metal as one of my customs. The only argument I can see for keeping the ability is that a psychokinetic would be able to "Feel" their power when it connects to something they can control, thus creating the sensory range. I actually see it as being more likely then for them to notice the metal if it's moving than if it were stationary, since movement will create a larger impact on their senses than not. Of course that doesn't extend to tracking movement, so much as knowing something is moving, and in what direction. Honestly I might even go so far as to say it would only work on moving items, unless the user is intentionally trying to sense stationary ones, since the original purpose of the ability was to sense kunai and other assorted pointy objects coming from behind the user. If the range was significantly reduced and applied only to moving objects I could see keeping it as a passive actually, with the current version (Likely edited for better balance) swapped to a jutsu. It does work as a jutsu, since the user is actively reaching out to feel the metals around them, though I'd also extend that to say they couldn't use other jiton techniques while sensing, since they're already utilizing their entire range with a weak sensor field. Maybe even alter the main bloodline bits to only be able to manipulate metal in their view or passive sensor range to prevent the rather unrealistic (And incredibly annoying) effect of a user grabbing someone who's sneaking up on them's kunai and stabbing them with it without even looking.
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:05 pm
Laxus didn't necessarily look at Shikaku, I meant it more as his eyes flicked in that direction, not even directly at Sora, and how I understood, Laxus could only see his head, so Kensei couldn't see Laxus after he shot over to Sora's side.
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Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:18 pm
Even if all that is necessarily true, and we both know RPers love to make leaps of logic to bypass little problems like that, you have to keep in mind who we're talking about here. Shikaku is incredibly skittish. If he even imagines that his cover is blown, he's going to pull out. He needs a few more missions and experiences under his belt before he starts to grow out of that.
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Friendly Conversationalist
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Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:04 am
Guys just skip me for now because I can't think of anything that doesn't invoke me posting about the clone walking around aimlessly.
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Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:27 am
Ah, I thought you were meaning Kensei would have seen it. I wasn't thinking about Shikaku being scared by Laxus looking in his direction.
@ Hado Why not have him walk into the clearing? That's what I was hoping for, that way we're not running through trees with Kensei at an odd angle. Heck, Your clone could probably hit Laxus, and Sora could dodge by to get away. Laxus can use Earth Style Military Movement so he can always go behind Kensei-clone, and escape after Sora.
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Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:33 am
Even better. Can we just assume the clone steps into the clearing defenseless and completely unprepared mrgreen ?
Really, though, Sora's next move will only be done once she sees Kensei step into the clearing. I would use his bobbing head if I could, but apparently I need vision on the ground the target is standing on >< .
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Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 12:50 am
I just got the thought of Sora using the Lightning Henge technique and hitting the Kensei clone with it.
Then the image in my head reminded me of Pikachu, and for some reason I found Laxus pointing while wearing a backward hat yelling "Sora, use volt tackle!"
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:10 am
HadoKennie Guys just skip me for now because I can't think of anything that doesn't invoke me posting about the clone walking around aimlessly. If you do that, everyone else will just be pointlessly doing nothing too. You had the clone walking towards the group in the last round, Laxus claims to have seen you, just move on to the fight scene or something so we can get the posturing over with. x.x
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