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 Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:58 am
Toastes haha i know.. i give up.. but i have to say, you are the best one here, i thank you, your the first to question me.. and not say something on how im not right? also, you didn't get off topic.. and i don't care bout winning, i just want a debate, and well these people keep bringing in off topic subjects, like pregnancy, that has nothing to do with sex before marrige..  "Forever...Technically, it does.
So do STI/STDs. If you have sex only after marriage these things wouldn't be a problem (or just not as much). ...and ever."
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:00 pm
Before I say anything, I just want to let people know that I respect abstinence and I don't mind it, as it is the overall wisest choice for avoiding any type of sexually-transmitted disease.
Well, here's my part on it:
I don't think sex after marriage is very imperative at all. I have very few friends that are abstinent, for most of them have already lost their virginity [to people they love and who they are still with today, at least most of them]. I do think that as much as the emotional, mental, and social aspects of a relationship are important, the physical part is very important as well. I would advise a child of mine (hypothetically speaking, as if though I were an adult and a parent) that they should lose their virginity whenever they feel absolutely 100% comfortable with it with people they LOVE. With anyone they LOVE, and have been with for a while. In every sort of relationship, the physical aspect has been important. Even if there is an abstinent couple, they would get touchy and restrict themselves from doing anything else, no matter what urge they get. That's human nature, lust. Some people see it as a sin, and that's the whole religious aspect of it, which I don't want to get into right now, but I see it as perfectly natural.
Even in a relationship that is long-distance, the physical aspect would be very important, and that's when you realize what a necessity it is for one's body. As I've said in the beginning of this post, I do respect the choice of abstinence and support anyone who chooses it. But I've seen stories of people who were abstinent themselves complaining about their husband or wife (it's usually a husband since women are harder to satisfy sexually), were unsatisfactory in bed, and they had not yet reached their orgasm. It could be a huge disappointment, and I don't want to say that to everyone who is abstinent, like I'm higher than you for not choosing it or anything, for that'd be ignorant, and not entirely true. There are people who are very happy with abstinence and whose lives turn out better because of it, and I'm happy for them as well.
But physical relations are just as important as anything else. Whether you choose abstinence or not, you will have urges, and it all relies on willpower afterwards.
The thing is...people glorify marriage so much. That's why there's restrictions on it, such as same-sex marriage prohibits (and I'm for gay marriage, but I'll debate about that on an already-existing thread later on), and statistics show that over 50% of married couples in the United States get divorced. People will always have friends with a divorced parent, because it's not uncommon in the least. I'm pretty physically-educated, and I've come to learn that over 10% of women in America have never and most likely will never experience their orgasm. It's very important.
So what I really have to say is, for those of you who chose abstinence, you get no alienation from me. May your choice help you with a better life, an STD-free life, and a very loving spouse.
For those of you who didn't choose or won't choose abstinence (such as I), don't have the typical teenage mindset of "Wham, Bam, Thank You, Ma'am!" It's much better when you see sex as an art, and you know how to satisfy the person you're loving. Don't just have sex to get your virginity over with, but have sex with someone you love, and it doesn't necessarily have to be someone you're married to.
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:10 pm
Lord Sadist Before I say anything, I just want to let people know that I respect abstinence and I don't mind it, as it is the overall wisest choice for avoiding any type of sexually-transmitted disease.
Well, here's my part on it:
I don't think sex after marriage is very imperative at all. I have very few friends that are abstinent, for most of them have already lost their virginity [to people they love and who they are still with today, at least most of them]. I do think that as much as the emotional, mental, and social aspects of a relationship are important, the physical part is very important as well. I would advise a child of mine (hypothetically speaking, as if though I were an adult and a parent) that they should lose their virginity whenever they feel absolutely 100% comfortable with it with people they LOVE. With anyone they LOVE, and have been with for a while. In every sort of relationship, the physical aspect has been important. Even if there is an abstinent couple, they would get touchy and restrict themselves from doing anything else, no matter what urge they get. That's human nature, lust. Some people see it as a sin, and that's the whole religious aspect of it, which I don't want to get into right now, but I see it as perfectly natural.
Even in a relationship that is long-distance, the physical aspect would be very important, and that's when you realize what a necessity it is for one's body. As I've said in the beginning of this post, I do respect the choice of abstinence and support anyone who chooses it. But I've seen stories of people who were abstinent themselves complaining about their husband or wife (it's usually a husband since women are harder to satisfy sexually), were unsatisfactory in bed, and they had not yet reached their orgasm. It could be a huge disappointment, and I don't want to say that to everyone who is abstinent, like I'm higher than you for not choosing it or anything, for that'd be ignorant, and not entirely true. There are people who are very happy with abstinence and whose lives turn out better because of it, and I'm happy for them as well.
But physical relations are just as important as anything else. Whether you choose abstinence or not, you will have urges, and it all relies on willpower afterwards.
The thing is...people glorify marriage so much. That's why there's restrictions on it, such as same-sex marriage prohibits (and I'm for gay marriage, but I'll debate about that on an already-existing thread later on), and statistics show that over 50% of married couples in the United States get divorced. People will always have friends with a divorced parent, because it's not uncommon in the least. I'm pretty physically-educated, and I've come to learn that over 10% of women in America have never and most likely will never experience their orgasm. It's very important.
So what I really have to say is, for those of you who chose abstinence, you get no alienation from me. May your choice help you with a better life, an STD-free life, and a very loving spouse.
For those of you who didn't choose or won't choose abstinence (such as I), don't have the typical teenage mindset of "Wham, Bam, Thank You, Ma'am!" It's much better when you see sex as an art, and you know how to satisfy the person you're loving. Don't just have sex to get your virginity over with, but have sex with someone you love, and it doesn't necessarily have to be someone you're married to. Bravo! I agree 100% with that last part. 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:59 am
Zorlock Darksoul Lord Sadist Before I say anything, I just want to let people know that I respect abstinence and I don't mind it, as it is the overall wisest choice for avoiding any type of sexually-transmitted disease.
Well, here's my part on it:
I don't think sex after marriage is very imperative at all. I have very few friends that are abstinent, for most of them have already lost their virginity [to people they love and who they are still with today, at least most of them]. I do think that as much as the emotional, mental, and social aspects of a relationship are important, the physical part is very important as well. I would advise a child of mine (hypothetically speaking, as if though I were an adult and a parent) that they should lose their virginity whenever they feel absolutely 100% comfortable with it with people they LOVE. With anyone they LOVE, and have been with for a while. In every sort of relationship, the physical aspect has been important. Even if there is an abstinent couple, they would get touchy and restrict themselves from doing anything else, no matter what urge they get. That's human nature, lust. Some people see it as a sin, and that's the whole religious aspect of it, which I don't want to get into right now, but I see it as perfectly natural.
Even in a relationship that is long-distance, the physical aspect would be very important, and that's when you realize what a necessity it is for one's body. As I've said in the beginning of this post, I do respect the choice of abstinence and support anyone who chooses it. But I've seen stories of people who were abstinent themselves complaining about their husband or wife (it's usually a husband since women are harder to satisfy sexually), were unsatisfactory in bed, and they had not yet reached their orgasm. It could be a huge disappointment, and I don't want to say that to everyone who is abstinent, like I'm higher than you for not choosing it or anything, for that'd be ignorant, and not entirely true. There are people who are very happy with abstinence and whose lives turn out better because of it, and I'm happy for them as well.
But physical relations are just as important as anything else. Whether you choose abstinence or not, you will have urges, and it all relies on willpower afterwards.
The thing is...people glorify marriage so much. That's why there's restrictions on it, such as same-sex marriage prohibits (and I'm for gay marriage, but I'll debate about that on an already-existing thread later on), and statistics show that over 50% of married couples in the United States get divorced. People will always have friends with a divorced parent, because it's not uncommon in the least. I'm pretty physically-educated, and I've come to learn that over 10% of women in America have never and most likely will never experience their orgasm. It's very important.
So what I really have to say is, for those of you who chose abstinence, you get no alienation from me. May your choice help you with a better life, an STD-free life, and a very loving spouse.
For those of you who didn't choose or won't choose abstinence (such as I), don't have the typical teenage mindset of "Wham, Bam, Thank You, Ma'am!" It's much better when you see sex as an art, and you know how to satisfy the person you're loving. Don't just have sex to get your virginity over with, but have sex with someone you love, and it doesn't necessarily have to be someone you're married to. Bravo! I agree 100% with that last part. 3nodding Haha, thank you!
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:41 am
Zorlock Darksoul Lord Sadist Before I say anything, I just want to let people know that I respect abstinence and I don't mind it, as it is the overall wisest choice for avoiding any type of sexually-transmitted disease.
Well, here's my part on it:
I don't think sex after marriage is very imperative at all. I have very few friends that are abstinent, for most of them have already lost their virginity [to people they love and who they are still with today, at least most of them]. I do think that as much as the emotional, mental, and social aspects of a relationship are important, the physical part is very important as well. I would advise a child of mine (hypothetically speaking, as if though I were an adult and a parent) that they should lose their virginity whenever they feel absolutely 100% comfortable with it with people they LOVE. With anyone they LOVE, and have been with for a while. In every sort of relationship, the physical aspect has been important. Even if there is an abstinent couple, they would get touchy and restrict themselves from doing anything else, no matter what urge they get. That's human nature, lust. Some people see it as a sin, and that's the whole religious aspect of it, which I don't want to get into right now, but I see it as perfectly natural.
Even in a relationship that is long-distance, the physical aspect would be very important, and that's when you realize what a necessity it is for one's body. As I've said in the beginning of this post, I do respect the choice of abstinence and support anyone who chooses it. But I've seen stories of people who were abstinent themselves complaining about their husband or wife (it's usually a husband since women are harder to satisfy sexually), were unsatisfactory in bed, and they had not yet reached their orgasm. It could be a huge disappointment, and I don't want to say that to everyone who is abstinent, like I'm higher than you for not choosing it or anything, for that'd be ignorant, and not entirely true. There are people who are very happy with abstinence and whose lives turn out better because of it, and I'm happy for them as well.
But physical relations are just as important as anything else. Whether you choose abstinence or not, you will have urges, and it all relies on willpower afterwards.
The thing is...people glorify marriage so much. That's why there's restrictions on it, such as same-sex marriage prohibits (and I'm for gay marriage, but I'll debate about that on an already-existing thread later on), and statistics show that over 50% of married couples in the United States get divorced. People will always have friends with a divorced parent, because it's not uncommon in the least. I'm pretty physically-educated, and I've come to learn that over 10% of women in America have never and most likely will never experience their orgasm. It's very important.
So what I really have to say is, for those of you who chose abstinence, you get no alienation from me. May your choice help you with a better life, an STD-free life, and a very loving spouse.
For those of you who didn't choose or won't choose abstinence (such as I), don't have the typical teenage mindset of "Wham, Bam, Thank You, Ma'am!" It's much better when you see sex as an art, and you know how to satisfy the person you're loving. Don't just have sex to get your virginity over with, but have sex with someone you love, and it doesn't necessarily have to be someone you're married to. Bravo! I agree 100% with that last part. 3nodding I also agree.. 100% nice job. biggrin
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:49 am
I lost my virginity when I was 15, and that was a one time thing. After that I only had sex with my boyfriend who I've been with for over a year and plan to marry. I don't see anything wrong with premarital sex, it's fun.
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:35 pm
Lord Sadist Before I say anything, I just want to let people know that I respect abstinence and I don't mind it, as it is the overall wisest choice for avoiding any type of sexually-transmitted disease.
Well, here's my part on it:
I don't think sex after marriage is very imperative at all. I have very few friends that are abstinent, for most of them have already lost their virginity [to people they love and who they are still with today, at least most of them]. I do think that as much as the emotional, mental, and social aspects of a relationship are important, the physical part is very important as well. I would advise a child of mine (hypothetically speaking, as if though I were an adult and a parent) that they should lose their virginity whenever they feel absolutely 100% comfortable with it with people they LOVE. With anyone they LOVE, and have been with for a while. In every sort of relationship, the physical aspect has been important. Even if there is an abstinent couple, they would get touchy and restrict themselves from doing anything else, no matter what urge they get. That's human nature, lust. Some people see it as a sin, and that's the whole religious aspect of it, which I don't want to get into right now, but I see it as perfectly natural.
Even in a relationship that is long-distance, the physical aspect would be very important, and that's when you realize what a necessity it is for one's body. As I've said in the beginning of this post, I do respect the choice of abstinence and support anyone who chooses it. But I've seen stories of people who were abstinent themselves complaining about their husband or wife (it's usually a husband since women are harder to satisfy sexually), were unsatisfactory in bed, and they had not yet reached their orgasm. It could be a huge disappointment, and I don't want to say that to everyone who is abstinent, like I'm higher than you for not choosing it or anything, for that'd be ignorant, and not entirely true. There are people who are very happy with abstinence and whose lives turn out better because of it, and I'm happy for them as well.
But physical relations are just as important as anything else. Whether you choose abstinence or not, you will have urges, and it all relies on willpower afterwards.
The thing is...people glorify marriage so much. That's why there's restrictions on it, such as same-sex marriage prohibits (and I'm for gay marriage, but I'll debate about that on an already-existing thread later on), and statistics show that over 50% of married couples in the United States get divorced. People will always have friends with a divorced parent, because it's not uncommon in the least. I'm pretty physically-educated, and I've come to learn that over 10% of women in America have never and most likely will never experience their orgasm. It's very important.
So what I really have to say is, for those of you who chose abstinence, you get no alienation from me. May your choice help you with a better life, an STD-free life, and a very loving spouse.
For those of you who didn't choose or won't choose abstinence (such as I), don't have the typical teenage mindset of "Wham, Bam, Thank You, Ma'am!" It's much better when you see sex as an art, and you know how to satisfy the person you're loving. Don't just have sex to get your virginity over with, but have sex with someone you love, and it doesn't necessarily have to be someone you're married to. I very much agree, but I think most teenagers can't be sure when they really are "in love", so when it comes to teenage sex... well... that's very risky.
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:36 pm
FlawOfFate I lost my virginity when I was 15, and that was a one time thing. After that I only had sex with my boyfriend who I've been with for over a year and plan to marry. I don't see anything wrong with premarital sex, it's fun. Sure it can be fun, but I don't think sex was intended to be only that... I kind of think it's wrong to have sex "just for fun."
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:25 am
Undiscovered Artist FlawOfFate I lost my virginity when I was 15, and that was a one time thing. After that I only had sex with my boyfriend who I've been with for over a year and plan to marry. I don't see anything wrong with premarital sex, it's fun. Sure it can be fun, but I don't think sex was intended to be only that... I kind of think it's wrong to have sex "just for fun." not only that, but if you do it for "FUN" would you take responsibility if something happened? like a surprise.. there's more emotions and feelings that go into it than.. FUN. wow thats not even right, cuz it's not.. well i mean it is, but only if it is worth it, and still at that, fun isn't the word. ME I love you butter.. and i do want to! but that doesn't nessesarilty <-- can't spell, mean that we will.. ! i love you and don't want to lose that part..!! i'll see you soon enough!
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:32 am
~[I'm not the person who would do it, but I don't see what's wrong with having sex for fun. I really don't see a problem with knowing all the consequences and then doing it anway, because it's fun.
Just because you think that it is "right" to have sex for a reason doesn't mean that other people think that way. I really believe this whole "sex before marraige" thing is "right" or "wrong" depending on the person.
Like I said, I wouldn't have sex with someone I didn't love just for fun, but I don't see the point of scolding others who do.]~
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:47 pm
I'm very much aware that not everyone else thinks the same way as me. If they did, we wouldn't be having this debate.
There is no point in scolding others who do, but I don't think that's anyone's intentions (but I can't really speak for the others). But I don't think it's pointless to voice your opinions and back them up with reasons. wink
Anyway, back to the "sex for fun thing" I guess what I said kinda came out the wrong way: yeah, sex is fun. But I believe it's more than that when it's with the person you're in love with-- and it's a lot more personal.
Idk, maybe some of you will feel different when you fall in love... (please don't take that to any offense if you are "in love" because none was intended sweatdrop ).
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:34 pm
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:45 am
NO ONE ELSE THINKS??? AHH?
still agree dramallama
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Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 10:29 am
Toastes NO ONE ELSE THINKS??? AHH? still agree dramallama Those are the kinds of posts that get you kicked out of this forum. Just a warning. Also, this entire thread, you've been having a bit of an "I'm right, you're wrong, because I said so" kind of attitude. I think Z said that before, in some other thread.
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Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:37 am
my 2cents is that sex is too much fun to wait, besides you gain xp, so when you do get married, your even better, lol
idk if i agree with this statment, but its funny
"...you gonna try it out before you buy"
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