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 Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:43 am
Lt. Brookman I think that happened when I suggested that either the rate of fire was to be fixed or when the price was dropped. But in the end was a very un-mariney weapon to go with. Un-Marine? how so? The predator ahs a TL Lascannon and Sponson Lascannons... all were doing is swapping TL for 2-4 shots.
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:22 am
Caleidah For Claymores, which sort? Do you mean the William Wallace style zweihander Claymore with the extended ricosso, or do you mean the Scottish longsword style claymore? Either way, neither were widely used because they were ineffective a lot of the time. Claymores were used either BY cavalry or AGAINST cavalry, for the sheer sake that it didn't take much to kill with the target was moving that fast.
I wouldn´t bother to use a long sword to attemp to make a mess of
my enemies, even in fantasy-rpg pc-games. <.<"Caleidah Katana...*sigh* A Punisher cannon takes out swaths at a time. A katana, unlike how it is depicted in anime and Kill Bill, is a weapon for single combat. The front liners in armies commanded by Shogun were not Samurai. They were peasants, given modified farm scythes and spears to fight and die for the people that ruled over them. A naginata, maybe. An Odachi, maybe. Not a katana. That's my take.
Or is that just me? <.< >.>Blackened Heart Sucubi Lt. Brookman I think that happened when I suggested that either the rate of fire was to be fixed or when the price was dropped. But in the end was a very un-mariney weapon to go with. Un-Marine? how so? The predator ahs a TL Lascannon and Sponson Lascannons... all were doing is swapping TL for 2-4 shots.
other then having 6 shots of lascannons instead of 4?
If you want Lascannons, there is always the apocalypse Land Raider Terminus Ultra. :p
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=1000010&pIndex=2&aId=6700007&start=3
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:30 am
Asmondai Caleidah For Claymores, which sort? Do you mean the William Wallace style zweihander Claymore with the extended ricosso, or do you mean the Scottish longsword style claymore? Either way, neither were widely used because they were ineffective a lot of the time. Claymores were used either BY cavalry or AGAINST cavalry, for the sheer sake that it didn't take much to kill with the target was moving that fast.
I wouldn´t bother to use a long sword to attemp to make a mess of
my enemies, even in fantasy-rpg pc-games. <.<"Caleidah Katana...*sigh* A Punisher cannon takes out swaths at a time. A katana, unlike how it is depicted in anime and Kill Bill, is a weapon for single combat. The front liners in armies commanded by Shogun were not Samurai. They were peasants, given modified farm scythes and spears to fight and die for the people that ruled over them. A naginata, maybe. An Odachi, maybe. Not a katana. That's my take.
Or is that just me? <.< >.>Blackened Heart Sucubi Lt. Brookman I think that happened when I suggested that either the rate of fire was to be fixed or when the price was dropped. But in the end was a very un-mariney weapon to go with. Un-Marine? how so? The predator ahs a TL Lascannon and Sponson Lascannons... all were doing is swapping TL for 2-4 shots.
other then having 6 shots of lascannons instead of 4?
If you want Lascannons, there is always the apocalypse Land Raider Terminus Ultra. :p
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?categoryId=1000010&pIndex=2&aId=6700007&start=3
oh dont worry! im quite aware of the heart heart Terminus Ultra heart heart i love it!
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:37 am
Why would marines need another zappy tank? They already have something for whatever situation should arise, so why more variants? confused
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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:53 pm
Kaori Kapoigne Why would marines need another zappy tank? They already have something for whatever situation should arise, so why more variants? confused This meant to be a heavy "kick their asses and roll over their corpses" kind of tank. And I removed the zappy-guns for that reason. I only kept the Autocannon because it was notched up a level of intensity and it can now take Autocannon sponsons.
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:29 am
Caleidah Kaori Kapoigne Why would marines need another zappy tank? They already have something for whatever situation should arise, so why more variants? confused This meant to be a heavy "kick their asses and roll over their corpses" kind of tank. And I removed the zappy-guns for that reason. I only kept the Autocannon because it was notched up a level of intensity and it can now take Autocannon sponsons. Realistically speaking this will be a tank fitted for dealing with heavy infantry. The predator can deal with light infantry and tanks fairly well already.
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Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:48 pm
for heavy infantry slayer, plasma cannons all the way, for heavy armor killer, meltas all the way. sorry but lascanons dont cut it well against av14...
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 1:54 am
Lascannons have lost a lot of their glitz and glamour with this edition, it's all meltas and power fists now. gonk
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:55 am
LasCannons will never be useless, for one reason, 48", thats twice the range of a multi-melta and you can get some more destructive hits on tanks with S9, unlike the Multi-melta S8. Until that multi-melta is set up within 12" you only get 1D6
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:22 am
Devastator squads and the Predator Annihilator are the lascannon platforms par excellence for the Marine player. There's also the Land Raider Vanilla and the Terminus for those Apocalypse moments.
However, if the homemade tank is to be anti-infantry, then looking at the Thunderfire cannon might not be such a bad idea, which is more or less an excellent anti-infantry jack of all trades weapons system. I don't have a codex handy, but from what I remember all three ammo types are geared towards wiping out infantry. Why not look at those ammo types and ponder on those for a bit?
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:32 am
Van Evok for heavy infantry slayer, plasma cannons all the way, for heavy armor killer, meltas all the way. sorry but lascanons dont cut it well against av14...
blowing it up with one shot or just mostly stunning the damn thing.
But hey, shaking and stunning is something that needs to be thinked as a good result, since you force it not being able to shoot for one turn,
which can/will mean alot for your army.
Blackened Heart Sucubi LasCannons will never be useless, for one reason, 48", thats twice the range of a multi-melta and you can get some more destructive hits on tanks with S9, unlike the Multi-melta S8. Until that multi-melta is set up within 12" you only get 1D6
considering that I NEVER HIT with those [piip] things. mad
I take Lascannons over melta weapons anytime,
plus it´s much better weapon when it comes to shooting down big monsters aswell. 3nodding
And ofc let us not forget how useless the extra D6 dice is againts a Monolith.Lt. Brookman Devastator squads and the Predator Annihilator are the lascannon platforms par excellence for the Marine player. There's also the Land Raider Vanilla and the Terminus for those Apocalypse moments. However, if the homemade tank is to be anti-infantry, then looking at the Thunderfire cannon might not be such a bad idea, which is more or less an excellent anti-infantry jack of all trades weapons system. I don't have a codex handy, but from what I remember all three ammo types are geared towards wiping out infantry. Why not look at those ammo types and ponder on those for a bit?
And indeed, the Thunderfire is a handy anti-infantry cannon that fires 4 shots in a turn with large blast template with 3 choosable ammo types:
1. abit stronger S and better AP.
2. is one points weaker in S and AP, but can take out targets behind covers
3. strong enought to knock a marine with no AP value,
but causes the unit hit by it to move as in difficult terrain.
It´s pretty cheap in points too, but only downside is that it takes a Heavy Support slot which might be a problem or not.
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:12 am
Legion of the Damned minis are coming this January. 
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:58 pm
Lt. Brookman Legion of the Damned minis are coming this January. http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2009/10/18/f155aeec5a09ad90b9afcd2915b70302_5394.jpg
old models, but when you look abit deeper you do realise the details on the model. surprised
Gives it abit nostalgic feeling, no?
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Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 3:19 pm
Fifteen different Legion models are coming. One has a heavy flamer.
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Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:43 am
Quote: The Legion of the Damned are an enigma, one of the greatest mysteries within the Imperium, Space Marines, whose jet-black armour is adorned with stylised flames and the macabre symbols of death. No living man can say for sure what the origins of the Legion of the Damned are, but rumours abound, each more fantastical than the last. Some say they are the survivors of the Fire Hawks Chapter who were lost in the Warp millennia ago, others that they are the lost spirits of Space Marines slain in battle or even the will of the Emperor given physical form. Whatever the truth, the Legion of the Damned are a terrible foe, arriving unannounced and unbidden to fight beside Space Marines who are on the brink of defeat. Legends abound of their heroism and supernatural resilience, turning back an Orkish charge with a thunderous salvo of bolter fire or scouring the foe from a bunker with flamer and melta. No sooner have the Legion of the Damned eliminated the enemy and ensured victory for their allies than they depart, they vanish every bit as mysterious as their arrival. In their wake, the Legion of the Damned leave nought but destruction, death and their enduring legend. This January the Legion of the Damned are released - a fantastic collection of highly detailed metal miniatures sculpted by Juan Diaz, Matt Holland and Neil Langdown. Full coverage of the new Legion of the Damned miniatures will appear in White Dwarf, including an 'Eavy Metal Masterclass and detailed designers' notes. Shown here are two models from the forthcoming release: one Damned Legionnaire with bolter and one armed with a flamer - keep checking White Dwarf and the Games Workshop website for more details.
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