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 Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:00 pm
Midnight Ethereal I have a question in regards to conversion and legality of a model.
Could I represent an Emperor's Champion in Terminator armor. The fluff says the Black Sword and Armor of Faith may change.
As long as it keeps the stats given to it in the codex would it matter if I had my champion in Terminator armor? Given that the save doesn't change, I'd say go for it if you feel like it.
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:15 pm
well LOS and WYSIWYG could play into that but i dont see an issue in it
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:22 pm
Blackened Heart Sucubi well LOS and WYSIWYG could play into that but i dont see an issue in it Has no shooting weapons, so LOS has no effect. WYSIWYG: Terminator armor has a 2+ save, and it can be assumed that this suit of the armor has been enhanced to have a 4+ much the same as the normal Armor of Faith. Already has a power sword or can be given one, and as long as it looks suitably fancy, I'd have no issues. That and you get around the potential issues of breaking rules by having him teleport by just walking him onto the board.
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 7:26 pm
Sorry should have clarified, it will make LOS better for your enemies. sorry.
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:42 am
Blackened Heart Sucubi Sorry should have clarified, it will make LOS better for your enemies. sorry. No, it really won't. Terminator armor is just barely taller than Power Armor. Maybe an eighth of an inch. People need to have decent LoS to claim targeting when I'm playing with them.
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:50 am
I'm with Caleidah on the subject of LOS, the big book itself clearly describes how that works and details like banners, weapons and other decorations don't count for LOS. ONLY the actual physical body of the unit that is mounted on the base! And realistically in a time of war, if all you see is a glimpse of something you aren't going to waste off ammo on what might just be a passing by rat or some such thing. It'd give away your position and leave you vulnerable when you have to reload anyways! (Ignoring the fact that reloading and realism don't take effect in 40k, it just sounds good to point out. lol)
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 8:58 am
Caleidah Van Evok an idea of mine: sniper instructors squad elite slot stats: as scout vet sergeant 3-5 in the squad cost:25 per model weapons/wargear: scout armor, boltpistol, sniper rifle, cammo cloak special rules: masters of stealth - add +2 instead of +1 to cover saves up to 2+, and giving 5+ in the open headshot: inflict rending on 5+ to wound sometimes, a team of chapters most experienced snipers is gathered to kill a specific target - especially Raven Guard and their successor chaptres favor this approach over more heavy-handed use of firepower So, essentially Space Marine Ranger Pathfinders? I think that would cost too much and be too small a squad for people to find it overly useful.[/quote You'd be better off taking Telion and calling it a day.
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:01 am
That big bobbing banner behind the wall over there, I think it might be the enemy.
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:14 am
Any one remember where your almighty Chapter Master could die from being shot by a lascannon? When all the Lascannon could see was his banner or sword tip?
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:13 am
If you give a Sternguard squad all Storm Bolters, do they still get the Special ammo?
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:58 am
Jason Kharo If you give a Sternguard squad all Storm Bolters, do they still get the Special ammo?
Since it´s not mentioned, it´s not possible.
It only works on Bolters and Combi-weapons.Sgt_OBrien Caleidah Van Evok an idea of mine: sniper instructors squad elite slot sometimes, a team of chapters most experienced snipers is gathered to kill a specific target - especially Raven Guard and their successor chaptres favor this approach over more heavy-handed use of firepower So, essentially Space Marine Ranger Pathfinders? I think that would cost too much and be too small a squad for people to find it overly useful.[/quote You'd be better off taking Telion and calling it a day.
and have Telion run in the other, so why bother take them?
Maybe if it would cause Rending on better rolls (4+, 3+) and/or
perhaps give it an option to shoot different targets (units and models),
like example 6 models shooting 6 different targets?
Now that´s something to think about.
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:06 am
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:23 pm
Thats stupid, why wouldn't they have special ammo for the Storm Bolter?
Its basically two Bolters put together, and they can have the special ammo.
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:06 pm
Jason Kharo Thats stupid, why wouldn't they have special ammo for the Storm Bolter? Its basically two Bolters put together, and they can have the special ammo.
while Storm Bolter is a 2-barrel bolter with a one fire-mechanism.
Atleast I think that´s the general difference....
They do use same ammo´s, but the function and rule is different,
so my quess is that it´s close to a balance issue then anything else.
Special ammo´s on bolter is not that overpowering as of
special ammo´s on storm bolter,
2 hellfire shots up to 24" despide having been moved
and can still assault even if they fired their weapons. <.<"
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:09 pm
But its an extra ten points I think.
Worth it.
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