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 Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:24 am
boku_wa_kage He's not refering to economic models, but the fact that people here in this thread said that Communism can lead to Nazism, with it's outrageous if you know that the Communist are involved with the left wing, as opposed to Fascism(with Nazism involved) that relates to the Right Wing. Basic politics advocates the left and right wing. Slightly more advanced politics agrees that extremists of both wings bear similarities, both left and right. See Political Ideologies by Andrew Heywood, published by Palgrave.
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 10:41 am
Thank you guys for all of your replies.
I can't talk like this to my friends,
They just start flaming totally left wing.
I'm Independant.
I agree and disagree with all sides.
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:42 pm
[Xenocidic_Chaos] Thank you guys for all of your replies.
I can't talk like this to my friends,
They just start flaming totally left wing.
I'm Independant.
I agree and disagree with all sides. I'd probably be counted as an anarchist, as I think governments only exist to interfere with or ignore everyone equally. But I'd never actually support an anarchist movement. They're usually populated by violent extremists and subculture ridden teens.
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:45 pm
Unfortunately, humanity is cursed with the little flaw of trying to be the most powerful, or top dog. Communism is an excellent idea tyhough. But througho9ut histrory we have seen the failings. Take Russia for example. when Stalin came in he was a great communist leader, for a while. then he began to take over and became a dictator. Every communist government eventually becomes a totaltarian or dictatorship government. Communism, like world peace is something that, humanity cannot acheive without a worldwide lobotomy.
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Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:28 pm
JakeChambers Unfortunately, humanity is cursed with the little flaw of trying to be the most powerful, or top dog. Communism is an excellent idea tyhough. But througho9ut histrory we have seen the failings. Take Russia for example. when Stalin came in he was a great communist leader, for a while. then he began to take over and became a dictator. Every communist government eventually becomes a totaltarian or dictatorship government. Communism, like world peace is something that, humanity cannot acheive without a worldwide lobotomy. Not humanity. Just some humans. It doesn't help that free market economies encourage the concept of the greedy individual who is only out for themselves.
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 3:11 pm
I know someone has said this already, but I want gold:
Communism is great on paper. What's wrong with communism you ask? The human veriable. Human greed is the one thing in the way of a successful communist government.
Sam_Took
P.S. sorry about the spelling.
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Posted: Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:42 am
Blind Guardian the 2nd JakeChambers Unfortunately, humanity is cursed with the little flaw of trying to be the most powerful, or top dog. Communism is an excellent idea tyhough. But througho9ut histrory we have seen the failings. Take Russia for example. when Stalin came in he was a great communist leader, for a while. then he began to take over and became a dictator. Every communist government eventually becomes a totaltarian or dictatorship government. Communism, like world peace is something that, humanity cannot acheive without a worldwide lobotomy. Not humanity. Just some humans. It doesn't help that free market economies encourage the concept of the greedy individual who is only out for themselves. Not some humans, most humans. :]
Yeah I totally lost track of this thread while I was gone. :[ oh well, same argument, everyone knows communism fails to launch and breaks down in the atmosphere, while democracy has its little glitchs it still gets to the moon, and soon the federation will take over and get us to mars [or so all those futuristic movies believe] and then a totalatarian[sp] system takes over and builds us a planet, at this point communism has long been forgotten! lol
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Posted: Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:45 am
Blood`Eternity Blind Guardian the 2nd JakeChambers Unfortunately, humanity is cursed with the little flaw of trying to be the most powerful, or top dog. Communism is an excellent idea tyhough. But througho9ut histrory we have seen the failings. Take Russia for example. when Stalin came in he was a great communist leader, for a while. then he began to take over and became a dictator. Every communist government eventually becomes a totaltarian or dictatorship government. Communism, like world peace is something that, humanity cannot acheive without a worldwide lobotomy. Not humanity. Just some humans. It doesn't help that free market economies encourage the concept of the greedy individual who is only out for themselves. Not some humans, most humans. :]
Yeah I totally lost track of this thread while I was gone. :[ oh well, same argument, everyone knows communism fails to launch and breaks down in the atmosphere, while democracy has its little glitchs it still gets to the moon, and soon the federation will take over and get us to mars [or so all those futuristic movies believe] and then a totalatarian[sp] system takes over and builds us a planet, at this point communism has long been forgotten! lol Who are you to make such blanket assumptions of humanity? Humans have no natural predisposition for power. But some humans do. I dispute this not.
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 4:47 pm
There is nothing wrong with communism. It is a great form of society if done correctly. So far, every country that has tried to go communism has screwed it up by having a government, a totalitarian government in some cases, which is just asking for trouble in this day and age.
The reason why Americans dislike communism so much is that the United States, ever since we abandoned British mercantilism, is a country built upon capitalism and individual advancement. Communism give everyone an equal share of everything, regardless of how hard an individual works. Individual advancement is totally obliterated, and thus, the support of capitalists.
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:54 am
Ensigma There is nothing wrong with communism. It is a great form of society if done correctly. So far, every country that has tried to go communism has screwed it up by having a government, a totalitarian government in some cases, which is just asking for trouble in this day and age. The reason why Americans dislike communism so much is that the United States, ever since we abandoned British mercantilism, is a country built upon capitalism and individual advancement. Communism give everyone an equal share of everything, regardless of how hard an individual works. Individual advancement is totally obliterated, and thus, the support of capitalists. I see your point of view,
And it makes more sence than mine.
I believe I will agree with you,
Communism is far-fetched idea, that cannot work in our day and age.
Well, all I can say now is,
Go Socialism!
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:20 pm
it IS a wonderful idea, but theres bound to be someone who'll come along and give into the greed for more power. History never ceases to repeate itself.
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:13 pm
Comunism was infact a good Idea. It was not evil like politics has pushed. Comunism was the Idea of a perfect liveing situation. ware everyone worked everyone is paid. everyone lives in happiness. it just dosent work because people are greedy and selfish. So comunism would work if infact man had the capabillity to be without greed
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:24 pm
I don't think it's as evil as people make it out to be, but it;s definetly flawed.
In groups, humans are pretty darn stupid, myself included. They need someone to follow, and when that's not provided it's easy for any idiot to step up and turn the place into a dictatorship.
Of course, democracy's flawed too, but then again, nothing's perfect.
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:35 am
wesfischer Comunism was infact a good Idea. It was not evil like politics has pushed. Comunism was the Idea of a perfect liveing situation. ware everyone worked everyone is paid. everyone lives in happiness. it just dosent work because people are greedy and selfish. So comunism would work if infact man had the capabillity to be without greed One man does have that capability. It's in the collective that they don't. Also, it still wouldn't work. Money is not the only thing someone can be rich and poor in. Friendship. Love. Family. Happiness. How do you make everyone equal in that aspect?
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:52 am
Blind Guardian the 2nd wesfischer Comunism was infact a good Idea. It was not evil like politics has pushed. Comunism was the Idea of a perfect liveing situation. ware everyone worked everyone is paid. everyone lives in happiness. it just dosent work because people are greedy and selfish. So comunism would work if infact man had the capabillity to be without greed One man does have that capability. It's in the collective that they don't. Also, it still wouldn't work. Money is not the only thing someone can be rich and poor in. Friendship. Love. Family. Happiness. How do you make everyone equal in that aspect? That's a bold statement.
I like it.
I believe we cannot, as humans, do that alone if we will it.
You could turn to a religion.
That seems to keep people joyfull and controlled.
But it's not for me, maybe sometime in my future.
But not now.
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