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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 12:33 pm
Fran Salaska I know that feeling well... boyfriend at uni, myself in a temp job, very little income, moving in with him and some friends next year... baby should be the LAST thing on my list. Yet every time I take a pregnancy test (every three months, just to be sure) I can't help but feel a little disappointed when it's negative. Even though I get s**t-scared when I think I might be. Phaedra: I'm looking into a change of pill, since I'm positive that's what's causing it. I'll let you know how it goes. That would make sense, though i started feeling like this when i went off of my first pill (we had a few months inbetween pills). and now that im on a different pill its worse, seriously. Of course, i know enough to supress the breeder urge and we're always smart, but still. its a pain in the a** to feel this way.
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:19 pm
It's kind of bizarre for me reading this...
I have a daughter... but I never wanted kids. I still don't feel maternal at all. I think quite a bit of it is due to PPD that never got treated, but I don't feel like I feel the way most mom's do with their children. Don't get me wrong, I love my daughter more than I thought I possibly could love another human being but... I don't know, something is just kind of off.
I must be some kind of anomoly. Didn't like kids, never wanted kids, had one anyways, still doesn't like kids or want to be anywhere near them(with the exception of her own). sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:41 am
Spiral Out It's kind of bizarre for me reading this... I have a daughter... but I never wanted kids. I still don't feel maternal at all. I think quite a bit of it is due to PPD that never got treated, but I don't feel like I feel the way most mom's do with their children. Don't get me wrong, I love my daughter more than I thought I possibly could love another human being but... I don't know, something is just kind of off. I must be some kind of anomoly. Didn't like kids, never wanted kids, had one anyways, still doesn't like kids or want to be anywhere near them(with the exception of her own). sweatdrop My husband's mother is a bit like this. She never wanted children, actually got her tubes tied, and eventually after going to a bunch of her husband's Spanish club meetings, she decided that she'd really like to have one of her own. Of course, I'm pretty happy that she decided to have him because he's pretty much the most wonderful person I've ever met, but she never really treated him a lot like a "kid". And she looks back on his childhood and thinks to herself about how, even though she loves him to death, she never really felt "maternal" about parenting. I, on the other hand, am pretty good with kids and I enjoy playing with them and watching them learn. Most kids like me too, and when I was younger, parents actually FOUGHT over who got me to babysit their kids (although it's not really difficult to make kids like you if you always have crayons, something to color on, and Cheerios). *shrug* Everyone's different. But I do highly suggest that you get treated for your PPD. Because if left untreated, Post partum depression can metamorphosis into post partum psychosis, which can lead you to do things that you normally wouldn't, including infanticide.
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 6:41 pm
Oni no Tenshi My best advice? Get on the Pill if you can, and then allow your partner to orgasm inside of you. I never got pregnant when I was on the pill and I did that all the time. It is technically "risky" but I had no problems with it. I have to disagree with this. I'm no expert, but I would say that using nothing but the Pill is too risky. I'd say you should use more than one method of contraception if you can, for example the pill and condoms. I know the Pill is 90-something % effective and condoms, what, 97%? But if you DO NOT want to get pregnant, take every precaution you can. I'm saying this because I've had very bad luck recently. I was using just condoms because other methods were no good for me. I was being as careful as I could be, made sure they weren't broken, etc. I had the implant put in my arm last month (Implannon) and it's 99.9% effective (the only recorded problems are people already pregnant when they have it implanted). My period was due a few days afterwards, but it didn't arrive. I knew the implant could screw up periods, but not that quickly surely. I took two pregnancy tests over the next two weeks, both turned up negative, so I thought I was in the clear. A few days after the second pregnancy test, I had a miscarriage. It must have been just before I had the implant in, because it couldn't have been more than 5 weeks. I thought back and could remember there had been a time I thought the condom had spilled, but I hadn't been sure it was worth bothering about at the time. Hindsight's 20/20 of course. I've had periods of broodiness before, now it's turned into a sort of sad broodiness. I didn't want to become pregnant, but I still feel sad for the potential lost. That said, I'm pro-choice. I know it was barely the size of a baked bean at that stage. I don't think it was a baby, but the potential of a baby. It makes me more pro-choice because I can see why someone else could go through the same thing and think "Oh well, it was nothing anyway" and why tell them otherwise? It's their 'thing', it's whatever they think it is. If they treat is as a potential baby, it's a potential baby, and so on. It may have been the size of a baked bean, but it was my baked bean. I don't think I could have had an abortion if it had been a viable pregnancy, but that's just me. Anyway, ever since then, I've wanted to be more careful. Nothing makes you more careful than a pregnancy scare . . . especially one ending like this. I don't want other girls to have to go through something like this before they become more careful. There's too much of this "It could never happen to me" attitude.
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 8:01 pm
Oni no Tenshi For example, I can orgasm from penetrative sex every time I have sex with my husband (except in doggie style). However, I did not get like this overnight. It took us over a YEAR of having sex and working through various self-image and other such problems before I could have an orgasm via sex. In fact, I had to "train" myself, little by little, to feel pleasure and even get close to orgasm at all. It was a hard road, but I am reaping all the amazing benefits from it. That's pretty much what I did (although it's been way less than a year and it still hurts a little sometimes, but only due to a bad angle or a full bladder) and when I told the people on the Scarleteen forums, they were pissed that I hadn't listened to them. At that point I couldn't just get to a doctor because I had no car and I'm on my mom's insurance, and she had said that if she ever found out we had sex at my house, she'd never let him come over again. Nice mixed message from the same person who said she'd take me to get birth control no matter what and then kept that promise. But we went to PP, and they have this thing where they don't technically have to do a pelvic exam to give you BC, so they didn't... Yeah, that pissed me off and made me way more scared. I wanted to have an expert opinion on the state of my reproductive organs! Anyway... the mods at Scarleteen told me that I was really stupid and could have been seriously hurt or even killed from trying to stretch my hymen, and that pain means stop and you should never have any pain at all from penetration. When I told them I'd heard that every other source said that it's normal for penetration to hurt at first, they said that the only reason was because they were a feminist source and acted like I was some ******** who took advice from Penthouse Forum or something like that... Quote: One of the things I would suggest (and let me know if this sounds too New Age to you) is to get to know your v****a. Use a speculum and a mirror to examine it. Feel inside of it and notice the difference based on how you feel, the time of the month, etc. Know when your v****a smells "clean" (it's very specifically different, not a bacteria or BO smell), and know when it smells sick. Already do! Except I don't own a speculum, just a mirror. Still, though, I want an "expert" to take a look, and I'm getting pissed that I don't have an appointment yet... And that my mom wants to take me to our family doctor. (He's not a bad guy. It's just... he's seen my mom. And my grandma. And he's... well, old.) Quote: I think that one of the biggest problems is that women don't really understand or know their vaginas. It's like the "little head" joke that men have with their penises, only instead of being friends, most women are like estranged lovers with their vaginas.That's a brilliant way to describe it! Quote: It's easier to be horny and wet when you know your body and what it likes. And it's even easier to figure out what's wrong if you know what things are like when it's right Knowledge is power! Tsamikayu I have to disagree with this. I'm no expert, but I would say that using nothing but the Pill is too risky. I'd say you should use more than one method of contraception if you can, for example the pill and condoms. I know the Pill is 90-something % effective and condoms, what, 97%? But if you DO NOT want to get pregnant, take every precaution you can. Well... I agree that you can never be too safe, but according to the info on my sister's brand of pills, the pill is 95% effective including women who miss pills. I forget what it was with perfect use. Quote: There's too much of this "It could never happen to me" attitude. True. But sometimes "OMG IT WILL HAPPEN TO ME IN THE WORST POSSIBLE WAY!" gets in the way of actually enjoying yourself.
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:39 am
Tsami: my sister got pregnant using just condoms, too. She had an abortion and went on the Pill, and although she's more reliable than I am with it (I think) she's had more than three pregnancy-free years and I've had more than one. I am sorry to hear about your miscarriage, though. <3
Condoms are 97% perfect use, 85% average use. Pills are 99.9% perfect use, about 95% average use I think. Most places say if you miss a pill, you're probably safe but to use condoms for a week or so too. Which sort of reminds me, I have to take a pregnancy test before I get my pill changed. Joyous!
On the subject of contraception, most recent information includes condom-in-a-can, and a female one that you just spray on your arm every day. Interesting.
Also, another tip that people don't often know: if you carry a condom in your wallet just in case, you should probably change it at least every two months - the friction rubs tiny holes in it.
On the subject of pain during sex: I only really get that if I've got a bad angle, or if I need the toilet, generally. About vaginas... I reassured my younger sister recently that hers was normal, because she'd seen a friend's and it was different (not sure about my older sister, but I definitely have large labia minora and had the same concern, because it doesn't look 'neat' like most of the pictures you see). And I didn't know what a clitoris was until I was fifteen.
Of course, when I discovered that oversight, I then learned everything I could about sex and masturbation and genitals, and I'm still learning new stuff. Knowledge is ALWAYS power!
(What was truly hilarious was my non-virgin friend asking my sixteen-year old virgin self how to get her boyfriend to be more dominant in bed... I was like GO TALK WITH HIM PLZKTHX!)
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:44 am
PhaedraMcSpiffy True. But sometimes "OMG IT WILL HAPPEN TO ME IN THE WORST POSSIBLE WAY!" gets in the way of actually enjoying yourself. I'm not saying people should panic about it. Just it does seem that you can never be too careful >_< I don't mean that what happened to me will happen to other people. Fran Salaska: I only use condoms straight from the box, I've never kept them in my wallet or anything since I knew that could break them somewhat. What I mean is, why not use both condoms and the pill, or both condoms and the implant? If it lowers the odds even more, why not? My friend was only on the pill - don't know whether she ever had any problems - but I asked her why not use condoms too and her only excuse was that her boyfriend found them uncomfortable o_O Um. . . bigger sizes?
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Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 5:49 am
Tsamikayu PhaedraMcSpiffy True. But sometimes "OMG IT WILL HAPPEN TO ME IN THE WORST POSSIBLE WAY!" gets in the way of actually enjoying yourself. I'm not saying people should panic about it. Just it does seem that you can never be too careful >_< I don't mean that what happened to me will happen to other people. Fran Salaska: I only use condoms straight from the box, I've never kept them in my wallet or anything since I knew that could break them somewhat. What I mean is, why not use both condoms and the pill, or both condoms and the implant? If it lowers the odds even more, why not? My friend was only on the pill - don't know whether she ever had any problems - but I asked her why not use condoms too and her only excuse was that her boyfriend found them uncomfortable o_O Um. . . bigger sizes? I meant about the condoms as a general thing, it's surprising how many people don't know... As for no condoms, me and my partner have no STDs, and the pill is really effective, plus after we tried it it was better without. Of course you can never be too careful, but it's just up to the person. The only problem I have with my pill is the whole no-sex-drive but hopefully switching will solve that. Of course, if me and my partner broke up and I moved on to someone else, I'd use condoms again. It's irresponsible to not use protection unless you're trying to get pregnant, I think. But yeah, I've heard of too many condom accidents to want to rely on just them. Plus pill was free and condoms aren't. >.<
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Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 1:30 pm
Fran Salaska I have the STUPIDEST BODY IN THE WORLD. I discovered this last night. 5-10% of women can orgasm from intercourse alone. Yep, I'm one of them. 5-10% of women suffer decreased libido whilst on the pill. Oh hell yes, that's me too. Is it just 5-10% with decreased libido? I always thought it was much more. It has to be THE most common complaint about the pill I hear. Quote: What is the point of being able to orgasm from sex if I never want it?!?!? I sympathize. I belong to both groups too. *Tear*
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:48 am
_Morgane Fay_ Fran Salaska I have the STUPIDEST BODY IN THE WORLD. I discovered this last night. 5-10% of women can orgasm from intercourse alone. Yep, I'm one of them. 5-10% of women suffer decreased libido whilst on the pill. Oh hell yes, that's me too. Is it just 5-10% with decreased libido? I always thought it was much more. It has to be THE most common complaint about the pill I hear. Quote: What is the point of being able to orgasm from sex if I never want it?!?!? I sympathize. I belong to both groups too. *Tear* Really? Most common complaint I hear is weight gain. (Yes, that goes for me too. >.< I'm just working harder to combat it than I would do otherwise.) It sucks. But on a happy note, seeing the doctor to change my pill tomorrow! : D
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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:12 pm
Tsamikayu Oni no Tenshi My best advice? Get on the Pill if you can, and then allow your partner to orgasm inside of you. I never got pregnant when I was on the pill and I did that all the time. It is technically "risky" but I had no problems with it. I have to disagree with this. I'm no expert, but I would say that using nothing but the Pill is too risky. I'd say you should use more than one method of contraception if you can, for example the pill and condoms. I know the Pill is 90-something % effective and condoms, what, 97%? But if you DO NOT want to get pregnant, take every precaution you can. I'm pretty forgetful about taking my pill, and my fiance & I have been on just the pill for the last year or so. No pregnancy scares. And for the OP's issue, this really helps get those urges down a bit. Granted, its not 100%, but nothing really is. Again, agreeing with a lot of the others in here, not saying you shouldn't, but if its a risk you're willing to take, its still pretty good. I know several people that rely on just the pill.
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:35 am
Fran Salaska _Morgane Fay_ Fran Salaska I have the STUPIDEST BODY IN THE WORLD. I discovered this last night. 5-10% of women can orgasm from intercourse alone. Yep, I'm one of them. 5-10% of women suffer decreased libido whilst on the pill. Oh hell yes, that's me too. Is it just 5-10% with decreased libido? I always thought it was much more. It has to be THE most common complaint about the pill I hear. Quote: What is the point of being able to orgasm from sex if I never want it?!?!? I sympathize. I belong to both groups too. *Tear* Really? Most common complaint I hear is weight gain. (Yes, that goes for me too. >.< I'm just working harder to combat it than I would do otherwise.) It sucks. But on a happy note, seeing the doctor to change my pill tomorrow! : D redface Forgot about the weight gain. Yes, obviously, that's the most common. Libido loss comes in second, then. Changing to a lighter pill did help in both problems, for me. Fingers crossed it does the same for you.
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 6:44 am
_Morgane Fay_ Fran Salaska _Morgane Fay_ Fran Salaska I have the STUPIDEST BODY IN THE WORLD. I discovered this last night. 5-10% of women can orgasm from intercourse alone. Yep, I'm one of them. 5-10% of women suffer decreased libido whilst on the pill. Oh hell yes, that's me too. Is it just 5-10% with decreased libido? I always thought it was much more. It has to be THE most common complaint about the pill I hear. Quote: What is the point of being able to orgasm from sex if I never want it?!?!? I sympathize. I belong to both groups too. *Tear* Really? Most common complaint I hear is weight gain. (Yes, that goes for me too. >.< I'm just working harder to combat it than I would do otherwise.) It sucks. But on a happy note, seeing the doctor to change my pill tomorrow! : D redface Forgot about the weight gain. Yes, obviously, that's the most common. Libido loss comes in second, then. Changing to a lighter pill did help in both problems, for me. Fingers crossed it does the same for you. That is if I'm allowed to take it. I've been given a scrip for a different one, but my blood pressure might be too high apparently. Which is ridiculous, because I'm probably eating a bit healthier and exercising more recently than I ever did before. Mind you, I'm now also sat at a desk job all day and am about 18lbs heavier than when I first went on the pill, but still. Everdark: I also rely on just the pill, since my sister relied on just condoms and got pregnant, but hasn't had any trouble with just the pill. Although getting pregnant would probably make me want to be extra-careful. Although I guess I'd ease off after a bit, so maybe she did. Meh.
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:16 am
Fran Salaska Everdark: I also rely on just the pill, since my sister relied on just condoms and got pregnant, but hasn't had any trouble with just the pill. Although getting pregnant would probably make me want to be extra-careful. Although I guess I'd ease off after a bit, so maybe she did. Meh. I got on the pill after my abortion, but I felt that the pill was protection against pregnancy enough, so I just went with it. I had been on it a couple years before, but you never want to stay on it for too long, so I was single for a long stretch of time & didn't feel like paying for it anymore & just stopped. For the first year w/ my fiance, I wasn't on it, got pregnant, aborted & said "plz to b having pillz again" lol. Its been workin good since. smile
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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:25 am
My ex said that the condoms we used when we were in the states were really bad (I think it was trojan) compared to the condoms we used when we were here (durex) in Europe. So when you use condoms really try every type so that you find the one your most comfortable with.
I was on the pill for 3 months when I was 18 but im really terrible about doing anything every single day and I had a bad experience at the Gynos (I wanted an implant but she freaked out and told me not to be promiscious) so I haven't gone back since and rely pretty heavily on condoms when I do have sex (which isnt often). I'm trying to find a new gyno but its been slow progress.
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