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 Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:41 pm
Pyrotechnic Oracle Mcphee I've just never ever experienced that behavior from him. And him apologizing to you, instead of me, for "maybe" insulting me, well, that speaks volumes. Its easier to apologise to some one else and have them relay the message instead of doing it to the face of the person you hurt. That to me speaks of how pathetic this whole thing really is. Or maybe he, you know, honestly forgot... Is it better going through the person who's been trying to get you to appologize, or say something along the lines of, "I don't remember insulting you, but sorry anyways" to the face of the person? I mean, to me, if someone were to say, "I don't remember being a d**k to you, but sorry." That would sound like he's not really sorry, he's just trying to get me to shut up.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:44 pm
Pyrotechnic Oracle I.Am I really don't see how he puts on a facade. He's a highly opinionated person, and he's not afraid to show it. Sure, he's a bit of a jerk sometimes, to people he doesn't like, but he doesn't act like he's not. And, as I said, I think that he's come to realize that Pro-Lifers aren't all that bad, hanging around Kaiser and Ebony. I'm talking about when he came to our guild. He tried to act liek a firnedly individual concerned for some of our debate tactics. Then he turned out to be an a** hat. Oh that, sure. Like I said. He's opinionated. And when you argue against his opinions, he becomes fairly certain you're an idiot, and he isn't afraid to show it.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:44 pm
I think that for some reason he thought my PMs were a group effort. Maybe he thought you were reading them too, Adrian.
Especially considering how angry I was about that sweatdrop
Y'all know what I get like. Insult me and I'm fine. Insult my friends and I'm a demon outta hell.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:47 pm
It's not that I think he's a bad guy-- It's just that he'd been really cruel to me for a really long time, talked trash about me (Sybex shark even defended me in the pro-choice guild when he called me a "deusche"), and generally went out of his way to despise me, and I don't think I did anything to him to warrant that kind of hatred.
He overreacted to a first impression, when I was in a bad mood, when he first came into this guild. He pissed me off, and he said that because I was an a*****e the first time we spoke, he's always thought of me as one.
I just have a hard time believing he's sorry, because he said, in very plain english, that I was someone not worthy of his respect.
Maybe I'm being childish, but when someone declares their loathing for me quite openly, I have a little bit of a difficult time smiling at them, and offering friendly chat with open arms.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:49 pm
question Why do you (or we, I did too one time) always bring Peer Orlando up? What makes him so much more noticable than the rest of them?
There are nice pro-choicers, but I'm not going to bother making the snobby ones nice. I just need one Pro-Lifer to tell me "I haven't had a good experience with this person" and I know they need to work on being nicer to everybody.
The completely friendly ones sort of... come to you, I noticed this!
Like, I have a very good Pro-Choice friend, and he's very nice to me. We rarely ever brought the subject up, only twice I can remember, and sometimes he mocks me in a joking way (like when I said I was going to kill my pixel pet because it was ugly, he said "But it's a living being!" but was of course joking)
I didn't go searching for him in some "Play nice" thread, I just met him randomly in a fishing room and our friendship anniversary will be August 10th.
And there's another one who PM'd me a few weeks ago, it was titled "Abortion Thoughts:" (I flinched) "Opened Eyes" and then I read. He said my argument posted on the front of the Abortion Debate Thread "flowed very well," that I helped "open his eyes to other views" and that he likes to read from the other side when he's not angry. He even said he would like to add me to discuss it further. We haven't discussed it, but he was on my friendslist very quickly and we like to talk about other things. We still talk, but he hasn't logged on in a few days... but there are nice ones out there, you just have to NOT look. That's how I see it. 3nodding
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:51 pm
Mcphee It's not that I think he's a bad guy-- It's just that he'd been really cruel to me for a really long time, talked trash about me (Sybex shark even defended me in the pro-choice guild when he called me a "deusche"), and generally went out of his way to despise me, and I don't think I did anything to him to warrant that kind of hatred.
He overreacted to a first impression, when I was in a bad mood, when he first came into this guild. He pissed me off, and he said that because I was an a*****e the first time we spoke, he's always thought of me as one.
I just have a hard time believing he's sorry, because he said, in very plain english, that I was someone not worthy of his respect.
Maybe I'm being childish, but when someone declares their loathing for me quite openly, I have a little bit of a difficult time smiling at them, and offering friendly chat with open arms. Makes sense, and it isn't childish. It's smart. Makes me wonder though. I've posted on here before when I've been just out of surgery and still doped up, or just got back from the ER, or been on 24 hour sleep deprivation, or had a seizure. I'm pretty sure I'm not completely myself when I post like that, so now I'm trying to figure out if people tend to like me better or worse when I'm like that and because of that impression continue to be my friend/despise me xd
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:52 pm
I.Am Pyrotechnic Oracle I.Am I really don't see how he puts on a facade. He's a highly opinionated person, and he's not afraid to show it. Sure, he's a bit of a jerk sometimes, to people he doesn't like, but he doesn't act like he's not. And, as I said, I think that he's come to realize that Pro-Lifers aren't all that bad, hanging around Kaiser and Ebony. I'm talking about when he came to our guild. He tried to act liek a firnedly individual concerned for some of our debate tactics. Then he turned out to be an a** hat. Oh that, sure. Like I said. He's opinionated. And when you argue against his opinions, he becomes fairly certain you're an idiot, and he isn't afraid to show it.
I don't mind that. I'm friends with Miranda, so I HAVE to tolerate opinionated people. XD
It's rudeness that I think is unnecessary. There's good, and bad ways to express your opinion.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:55 pm
I.Am Pyrotechnic Oracle I.Am I really don't see how he puts on a facade. He's a highly opinionated person, and he's not afraid to show it. Sure, he's a bit of a jerk sometimes, to people he doesn't like, but he doesn't act like he's not. And, as I said, I think that he's come to realize that Pro-Lifers aren't all that bad, hanging around Kaiser and Ebony. I'm talking about when he came to our guild. He tried to act liek a firnedly individual concerned for some of our debate tactics. Then he turned out to be an a** hat. Oh that, sure. Like I said. He's opinionated. And when you argue against his opinions, he becomes fairly certain you're an idiot, and he isn't afraid to show it. You hit it. Theres his problem. The "I'm always right" complex. I hate people liek that.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:59 pm
Lorysa question Why do you (or we, I did too one time) always bring Peer Orlando up? What makes him so much more noticable than the rest of them?
There are nice pro-choicers, but I'm not going to bother making the snobby ones nice. I just need one Pro-Lifer to tell me "I haven't had a good experience with this person" and I know they need to work on being nicer to everybody.
The completely friendly ones sort of... come to you, I noticed this!
Like, I have a very good Pro-Choice friend, and he's very nice to me. We rarely ever brought the subject up, only twice I can remember, and sometimes he mocks me in a joking way (like when I said I was going to kill my pixel pet because it was ugly, he said "But it's a living being!" but was of course joking)
I didn't go searching for him in some "Play nice" thread, I just met him randomly in a fishing room and our friendship anniversary will be August 10th.
And there's another one who PM'd me a few weeks ago, it was titled "Abortion Thoughts:" (I flinched) "Opened Eyes" and then I read. He said my argument posted on the front of the Abortion Debate Thread "flowed very well," that I helped "open his eyes to other views" and that he likes to read from the other side when he's not angry. He even said he would like to add me to discuss it further. We haven't discussed it, but he was on my friendslist very quickly and we like to talk about other things. We still talk, but he hasn't logged on in a few days... but there are nice ones out there, you just have to NOT look. That's how I see it. 3nodding
I guess I just... am interested by what makes people hate me.
Because, I dunno. I don't see myself as an easily hateable person. I'm not in-your-face, I'm not rude, and I don't judge people. I try and be the best person I can, and if I'm not, then I try and improve on that.
That, and... s**t, I just don't like it when people dislike me. It causes unecessary stress, and it makes me feel all... I dunno. Self concious. I hate being hated, and when I am, it's hard for me to just... let it go.
It's like... the people who used to make fun of me for being a "f*****t", "homo", "fatty", "disgusting". I knew why they hated me. If I don't know, then I can't do anything about it. But if they hate me arbitrarily, well, I don't like that too much.
I don't know. I'm rambling yet again, though. So I'll hush.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:06 pm
Mcphee I.Am Pyrotechnic Oracle I.Am I really don't see how he puts on a facade. He's a highly opinionated person, and he's not afraid to show it. Sure, he's a bit of a jerk sometimes, to people he doesn't like, but he doesn't act like he's not. And, as I said, I think that he's come to realize that Pro-Lifers aren't all that bad, hanging around Kaiser and Ebony. I'm talking about when he came to our guild. He tried to act liek a firnedly individual concerned for some of our debate tactics. Then he turned out to be an a** hat. Oh that, sure. Like I said. He's opinionated. And when you argue against his opinions, he becomes fairly certain you're an idiot, and he isn't afraid to show it.
I don't mind that. I'm friends with Miranda, so I HAVE to tolerate opinionated people. XD
It's rudeness that I think is unnecessary. There's good, and bad ways to express your opinion.There I must agree. Miranda's opinionated. I don't think I'm lacking that quality either. It's childish to react to everything you don't like with rudeness.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:08 pm
Mcphee I try to be friendly with everyone. Mr. Peer is one of the few people, along with Mipsy, and others, that seem to think that I'm a worthless person. Or at least I thought Peer was in that group. Mipsy told me flat out "Become pro-choice again, and you'll get respect from me. Otherwise, suck it up."
I guess I just... am interested by what makes people hate me.
Because, I dunno. I don't see myself as an easily hateable person. I'm not in-your-face, I'm not rude, and I don't judge people. I try and be the best person I can, and if I'm not, then I try and improve on that.
That, and... s**t, I just don't like it when people dislike me. It causes unecessary stress, and it makes me feel all... I dunno. Self concious. I hate being hated, and when I am, it's hard for me to just... let it go.
It's like... the people who used to make fun of me for being a "f*****t", "homo", "fatty", "disgusting". I knew why they hated me. If I don't know, then I can't do anything about it. But if they hate me arbitrarily, well, I don't like that too much.
I don't know. I'm rambling yet again, though. So I'll hush.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:10 pm
So basically, in order to be respected, you need to believe what someone else tells you to believe?
Wow. With friends like that...
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:19 pm
lymelady So basically, in order to be respected, you need to believe what someone else tells you to believe? Wow. With friends like that...
Precisely.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:21 pm
Pyrotechnic Oracle I.Am Pyrotechnic Oracle I.Am I really don't see how he puts on a facade. He's a highly opinionated person, and he's not afraid to show it. Sure, he's a bit of a jerk sometimes, to people he doesn't like, but he doesn't act like he's not. And, as I said, I think that he's come to realize that Pro-Lifers aren't all that bad, hanging around Kaiser and Ebony. I'm talking about when he came to our guild. He tried to act liek a firnedly individual concerned for some of our debate tactics. Then he turned out to be an a** hat. Oh that, sure. Like I said. He's opinionated. And when you argue against his opinions, he becomes fairly certain you're an idiot, and he isn't afraid to show it. You hit it. Theres his problem. The "I'm always right" complex. I hate people liek that. ...Look, I hate to come out and say this, but look in the mirror. I hate it when people act like that, but I don't hate people. Honestly, that's the reason I sometimes really don't get along with you is that you often act like you are right, and anyone who disagrees with you is a moron. Especially in connection with religion. I mean, not recently, but there've been times when we've told you something or corrected you on something, usually about religion, and you refuse to believe us. And when enough people have said it, you then go to talk to your "teachers," whoever they are, about it, because apparently we aren't trustworthy. Not to say that you are a bad person, you're an okay guy, but it's true. And I wouldn't bring this up if you hadn't accused TPO of the same exact thing.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:25 pm
Mcphee lymelady So basically, in order to be respected, you need to believe what someone else tells you to believe? Wow. With friends like that...
Precisely.There was no heart sad
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