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Sylvanet

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:11 am


Blossom, you're missing the point. Just talking to people NEVER EVER works. Not in situations like this, not unless it's loud and obnoxious and sticks in people's memories like the big ol' piece of crap that it is.

It isn't just the effing inside jokes and stories. It is the rotten attitudes of many of these members.

IF we indeed DID get more members I ask the same thing Polar did. Would they stick around or would they leave because of the bad atmosphere? Newbies looking for guilds look for acceptance and warmth. This guild used to have those vibes to it! But then TMO and Jiggy and Fresnel seemed to disappear. It got from bad to worse after that.

If I was a newbie, I would never want to be in a place that is so uninviting. Even older members who are finally taking a crack at becoming guildies would be difficult to keep around, IMO.

I have a theory that the inactivity is not because of the lack of active members, it's because the members who ARE active don't want to reply to threads they didn't create or were created by people who aren't in the clique. Unless there's something they can pick at or demean or insult in that thread.

Newbies and new members to guilds don't need that kind of crap. No one does.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 1:43 pm


Orange Blossom
I try to include everyone, really, I do.

I go to the other extreme: I try to exclude everyone equally. That way, everyone feels left out.

Mooby the Golden Sock


J-E-O-C

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:05 pm


I'm still haunting the RP subforum and word games, hoping someone will enter my domain!
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:06 pm


Mooby the Golden Sock
Orange Blossom
I try to include everyone, really, I do.

I go to the other extreme: I try to exclude everyone equally. That way, everyone feels left out.


I'm sorry but...is that supposed to be funny?

[Polaroid]


Bogus_Burger
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:12 pm


I usually don't reply to threads unless I want gold or have something to say about it. As far as being uninviting, I remember a certain member of this guild getting angry at me for not capitalizing an I in my post. I didn't feel very welcome then.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:13 pm


[Polaroid]
I'm sorry but...is that supposed to be funny?

Quote:
Unless there's something they can pick at or demean or insult in that thread.

Mooby the Golden Sock


[Polaroid]

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:15 pm


Mooby the Golden Sock
[Polaroid]
I'm sorry but...is that supposed to be funny?

Quote:
Unless there's something they can pick at or demean or insult in that thread.


How is that an insult? I was asking a question.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:18 pm


It sounded alot like one to me. Sarcasm is opperationally defined as verbal irony ment to wound. That nearly overloaded my detector.

J-E-O-C


[Polaroid]

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:20 pm


jeoc
It sounded alot like one to me. Sarcasm is opperationally defined as verbal irony ment to wound. That nearly overloaded my detector.


jeoc, was I talking to you?

I mean, really, I was simply wondering if he meant his statement as a joke or as an insult. If it was a joke, I didn't exactly find it funny (I have heard a deviation of the line with 'I'm free of all prejudice; I hate everyone equally' which is slightly more offensive but a little funnier).

You see, this is why the guild is uninviting. You say one thing and people gang up and attack you.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:21 pm


Ashahis
I have a theory that the inactivity is not because of the lack of active members, it's because the members who ARE active don't want to reply to threads they didn't create or were created by people who aren't in the clique.

I personally reply to threads that I find interesting, regardless of who created them. Not to put you down, but I've noticed that you often start threads about different aspects/features/items on Gaia. In case you haven't noticed from my plain avatar, I couldn't care less about Gaia. So, obviously, I don't reply to those threads.
By the same token, I find it easier to empathize with real life posts from people whom I know on a personal level than complete strangers. Thus, I'm more likely to post in a RL thread by a friend. Is this elitist? No, as I'm not actively discriminating against other members.
Other than that, I reply pretty nondescriminantly to the other threads out there, and I often see BB, Blossom, or IMP in those same threads. Apparently, those threads spark our individual interests.

I'm still a Guild newbie myself, and I don't felt that I've been treated wrongly by anyone, "clique" members or not.

Mooby the Golden Sock


Mooby the Golden Sock

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:24 pm


[Polaroid]
jeoc
It sounded alot like one to me. Sarcasm is opperationally defined as verbal irony ment to wound. That nearly overloaded my detector.


jeoc, was I talking to you?

I mean, really, I was simply wondering if he meant his statement as a joke or as an insult. If it was a joke, I didn't exactly find it funny (I have heard a deviation of the line with 'I'm free of all prejudice; I hate everyone equally' which is slightly more offensive but a little funnier).

You see, this is why the guild is uninviting. You say one thing and people gang up and attack you.

There's no ganging up going on here. You asked for an explanation, and Jeoc said what he felt. Giving an explanation for a disagreement with your opinion is not the same as attacking you.
As for my posts, both of them were a product of my very dry sense of humor.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:33 pm


[Polaroid]
jeoc
It sounded alot like one to me. Sarcasm is opperationally defined as verbal irony ment to wound. That nearly overloaded my detector.


jeoc, was I talking to you?

I mean, really, I was simply wondering if he meant his statement as a joke or as an insult. If it was a joke, I didn't exactly find it funny (I have heard a deviation of the line with 'I'm free of all prejudice; I hate everyone equally' which is slightly more offensive but a little funnier).

You see, this is why the guild is uninviting. You say one thing and people gang up and attack you.

I was agreeing with you and you attack me?
I guess that becoming active in here again was a mistake.

J-E-O-C


[Polaroid]

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:39 pm


jeoc
[Polaroid]
jeoc
It sounded alot like one to me. Sarcasm is opperationally defined as verbal irony ment to wound. That nearly overloaded my detector.


jeoc, was I talking to you?

I mean, really, I was simply wondering if he meant his statement as a joke or as an insult. If it was a joke, I didn't exactly find it funny (I have heard a deviation of the line with 'I'm free of all prejudice; I hate everyone equally' which is slightly more offensive but a little funnier).

You see, this is why the guild is uninviting. You say one thing and people gang up and attack you.

I was agreeing with you and you attack me?
I guess that becoming active in here again was a mistake.


Wait, you saying that what I said was an insult was agreeing with me?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:44 pm


Arg, all of you stop it!

This is exactly what I was talking about. This guild is horrible for anyone who wants a warm and friendly environment and everyone is just looking for something to pick at in someone's posts!!!

I'm getting sick and tired of all the arguing, catfights and bitchfests. So I'm not going to say any more until things improve.

Sylvanet


J-E-O-C

PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 2:46 pm


[Polaroid]
jeoc
[Polaroid]
jeoc
It sounded alot like one to me. Sarcasm is opperationally defined as verbal irony ment to wound. That nearly overloaded my detector.


jeoc, was I talking to you?

I mean, really, I was simply wondering if he meant his statement as a joke or as an insult. If it was a joke, I didn't exactly find it funny (I have heard a deviation of the line with 'I'm free of all prejudice; I hate everyone equally' which is slightly more offensive but a little funnier).

You see, this is why the guild is uninviting. You say one thing and people gang up and attack you.

I was agreeing with you and you attack me?
I guess that becoming active in here again was a mistake.


Wait, you saying that what I said was an insult was agreeing with me?

No. I posted that the post mooby made was sarcastic, expressing an opinion in agreement with you. And you attack me for it. Its barbaric, rude and quite honestly, makes me consider leaving entirely.
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