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 Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 5:23 am
seraph_of_despair Molly the Emo Kitty I think there are a few reasons why people hate getting preached to. 1. - They don't want to be told they're going to hell. Would you? I've been told that before, at school, which I followed up with a 'I'm a Christian, thank you very much'. 2. - Everyone has issues admitting they're wrong. 3. - It's hard to change. Being a sinner is easy because the tempation is everywhere and following the crowd is simple and requires no sacrifice, with the exception of your originality, your braincells and your eternal soul. Following God is hard because a lot of the world is against him right now. Some people don't know how to be strong enough to take on the pressure. It's why Peter denied Jesus three times, is it not? Persecution. Rejection. All that other wonderful smut. But the road to righteousness isn't paved, it's hard and has several ruts in it because it's the road less traveled. Don't not preach to your friends, just try other methods. It is hard, but stuff worth having is the stuff you have to work for. Look at it this way; don't you want your friends to be in heaven with you? The earth is temporary, and any persecution, pain or suffering faced here will be rewarded for eternity in the Kingdom of God. Thank you, this really helped. I appreciate everyones replies. I do want my friends to go to heaven instead of hell, but what methods are there? I don't want to be intrusive and I really value our friendship. It takes an awful lot of paitentence. I brought two of my friends to youth group one night because they wanted to cause as much havoc as possible just by being there. They wore their most "gothiest" clothes, had on heavy black eyeliner and other assorted makeup and one of them was even wearing a pentacle in plain sight, for all the world to see. But my youth group leader welcomed them warmly, everyone was friendly, and they were invited back next week. An they came, in more proper attire. Tolerence, paitentence, and the ability to plant the word of God in your friend's hearts. That's a good way to start. You can also help by proving to them you truly are a Christian. Prove you're God's child by refusing to go to the party where there's sex, drugs and alcohol, or say truth that way your dare isn't to go scare the daylights out of the nice old lady who lives down the street. It's not necessarily living a better life, but it is seeing the good in everything and knowing right from wrong. Ask yourself 'Would God want me doing this?' if you start going down the path your friends are following. Just remind yourself that that road has several offramps to Heaven. You just have to help point them out. (I hope that made sense, I typed it all up for you right before I was about to go to sleep)
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 8:49 pm
Molly the Emo Kitty seraph_of_despair Molly the Emo Kitty I think there are a few reasons why people hate getting preached to. 1. - They don't want to be told they're going to hell. Would you? I've been told that before, at school, which I followed up with a 'I'm a Christian, thank you very much'. 2. - Everyone has issues admitting they're wrong. 3. - It's hard to change. Being a sinner is easy because the tempation is everywhere and following the crowd is simple and requires no sacrifice, with the exception of your originality, your braincells and your eternal soul. Following God is hard because a lot of the world is against him right now. Some people don't know how to be strong enough to take on the pressure. It's why Peter denied Jesus three times, is it not? Persecution. Rejection. All that other wonderful smut. But the road to righteousness isn't paved, it's hard and has several ruts in it because it's the road less traveled. Don't not preach to your friends, just try other methods. It is hard, but stuff worth having is the stuff you have to work for. Look at it this way; don't you want your friends to be in heaven with you? The earth is temporary, and any persecution, pain or suffering faced here will be rewarded for eternity in the Kingdom of God. Thank you, this really helped. I appreciate everyones replies. I do want my friends to go to heaven instead of hell, but what methods are there? I don't want to be intrusive and I really value our friendship. It takes an awful lot of paitentence. I brought two of my friends to youth group one night because they wanted to cause as much havoc as possible just by being there. They wore their most "gothiest" clothes, had on heavy black eyeliner and other assorted makeup and one of them was even wearing a pentacle in plain sight, for all the world to see. But my youth group leader welcomed them warmly, everyone was friendly, and they were invited back next week. An they came, in more proper attire. Tolerence, paitentence, and the ability to plant the word of God in your friend's hearts. That's a good way to start. You can also help by proving to them you truly are a Christian. Prove you're God's child by refusing to go to the party where there's sex, drugs and alcohol, or say truth that way your dare isn't to go scare the daylights out of the nice old lady who lives down the street. It's not necessarily living a better life, but it is seeing the good in everything and knowing right from wrong. Ask yourself 'Would God want me doing this?' if you start going down the path your friends are following. Just remind yourself that that road has several offramps to Heaven. You just have to help point them out. (I hope that made sense, I typed it all up for you right before I was about to go to sleep) Yes, this has definitely helped me out. I see exactly what you mean. I guess sometimes it's hard, but (then again) no one ever said that it was easy.^_^
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:41 am
I believe that you should try to convert them once, and only once. If they do it, thats great, if they dont, then you've still done your part. Friends wont leave for one thing, but if you keep trying they will eventually leave.
Christian goths unite! Lawl. 4laugh
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Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:42 pm
seraph_of_despair Molly the Emo Kitty seraph_of_despair Molly the Emo Kitty I think there are a few reasons why people hate getting preached to. 1. - They don't want to be told they're going to hell. Would you? I've been told that before, at school, which I followed up with a 'I'm a Christian, thank you very much'. 2. - Everyone has issues admitting they're wrong. 3. - It's hard to change. Being a sinner is easy because the tempation is everywhere and following the crowd is simple and requires no sacrifice, with the exception of your originality, your braincells and your eternal soul. Following God is hard because a lot of the world is against him right now. Some people don't know how to be strong enough to take on the pressure. It's why Peter denied Jesus three times, is it not? Persecution. Rejection. All that other wonderful smut. But the road to righteousness isn't paved, it's hard and has several ruts in it because it's the road less traveled. Don't not preach to your friends, just try other methods. It is hard, but stuff worth having is the stuff you have to work for. Look at it this way; don't you want your friends to be in heaven with you? The earth is temporary, and any persecution, pain or suffering faced here will be rewarded for eternity in the Kingdom of God. Thank you, this really helped. I appreciate everyones replies. I do want my friends to go to heaven instead of hell, but what methods are there? I don't want to be intrusive and I really value our friendship. It takes an awful lot of paitentence. I brought two of my friends to youth group one night because they wanted to cause as much havoc as possible just by being there. They wore their most "gothiest" clothes, had on heavy black eyeliner and other assorted makeup and one of them was even wearing a pentacle in plain sight, for all the world to see. But my youth group leader welcomed them warmly, everyone was friendly, and they were invited back next week. An they came, in more proper attire. Tolerence, paitentence, and the ability to plant the word of God in your friend's hearts. That's a good way to start. You can also help by proving to them you truly are a Christian. Prove you're God's child by refusing to go to the party where there's sex, drugs and alcohol, or say truth that way your dare isn't to go scare the daylights out of the nice old lady who lives down the street. It's not necessarily living a better life, but it is seeing the good in everything and knowing right from wrong. Ask yourself 'Would God want me doing this?' if you start going down the path your friends are following. Just remind yourself that that road has several offramps to Heaven. You just have to help point them out. (I hope that made sense, I typed it all up for you right before I was about to go to sleep) Yes, this has definitely helped me out. I see exactly what you mean. I guess sometimes it's hard, but (then again) no one ever said that it was easy.^_^ Usually the best road to take is the hardest. Believe me, I'm having the same problem converting my friends you are. My best friend pisses of Christian religion extremeists for fun. sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:30 am
I will not force any discussion of my beliefs on anyone - not just my friends.
I only discuss my beliefs if the person shows an active interest in what I believe.
You look at the example when Jesus tells his disciples that he will make them fishers of men. You won't catch any fish if you run out into the water and force yourself upon the "fish". The fisherman who catches fish does so when he waits patiently with his bait.
For me, my bait is living by the example set down by Jesus. I use the way I live as my ministry toward others. I've been in enough bad situations with attempts and conversions to know that you just cannot win people over that way.
The more political correctness and this idea of open-mindedness (the extreme case I'm referring to here) becomes prevalent in our society, the more fragile situations involving reaching people through Christ become.
All you have to do is just live by example. Know that Jesus will guide you, and He is always bigger than any problem you face, even the issues of reaching people.
3nodding
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:00 am
show them true Christainity,such as helping and ect..then they will think about it.the more u show Christ to them the more they will come.
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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 5:38 pm
Witnessing to friends is SO hard, i know, but you can do it!
I witness to most of my friends by finding a way to bring up religion in the conversation (casually) and telling them what I believe. Example:
My friend: "I'm all worried about class tomorrow, I fail at math!"
Me: "I've been praying about it, so God can give me peace about the test."
(lol that was corny, but you get the idea.)
Sometimes my friends ask me quiestions about christianity after that, and over time I give them the gospel message. If your buds know you're Christian, then they will see that you are different b-cuz of your faith.
GOOD LUCK biggrin
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:19 pm
seraph_of_despair I have to tell you now, that many of my friends aren't Christian. They are sick and tired of people trying to convert them. You may believe that it is the right thing to do, but some of you trying to push them to Christianity is just making them run in the other direction. I myself have been pegged as a non-believer. However, I must assure you that I am a Christian. Don't you guys have some friends like that? I don't try to convert them, because it pisses them off to no end. What do you guys do with friends like this? Do you keep pushing in hopes that they will one day convert while you are destroying your relationship or do you just not hang out with them anymore, because they might effect you? Quite a few of my ministers said in their sermons that if you cannot convert them you should not hang with them? I personally have qualms with this. What are your thoughts? ok two of my best friends are wicka and im always trying to convert them but i try not to like nag and stuff but is having your friends mad at you for a little while whorth them burning in hell and being tortured for the rest of eternity what if they were to die tomorrow i mean you never know i mean thats a dangerous game to play and ill leave you with that ill have you in my players heart
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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:52 am
Sometimes the best thing you can do is to just plant the seed and walk away.
I know this from experiance. I used to have many pagan dabblings, I wasnt a wiccan yet but was interested in becoming one. One day a friend asked me if I belived in Jesus/God etc.. I said no . She simply said that that scared her because the worst thing she could imagin was getting to heaven and finding out her friends were not there.
Two long years later I understand what she meant, and I thank God that she had the courage to tell me about her convictions, and the heart to pray for me.
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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:40 am
Your right, it's hard to convert someone these days. What I do is just have a good time and live happily. People will ask me why I'm always so happy and I say because I know that god loves me unconditionaly. Sure some people make fun of me, but at least I'm letting people know about what god does for me.
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 3:44 pm
yeah....I bet you that on average, I think that they are a stereotype of people overaggerating how much they are pressured to convert, it's a matter of what's easiest to shoot down the christians, I'm sorry if this is blunt but damn, I'm sick of hearing it. it's the same thing for people trying to get us to push away our religion, but you don't hear about that.
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:42 pm
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 2:18 pm
i have a pagan friend. and every time i talk to her about christ, she somehow always has a way to dismiss it.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:30 pm
I heard somewhere that it's our job to inform people about God, but it's His job to convince them. I don't think you should constantly tell people how wrong they are and how they're in the fast lane towards Hell, no matter how true it may be. Something cool to do might be taking Bible verses that are relevant to everyone, not just Christians (As in, using laughter always goes hand-in-hand with tears (italicised because it is paraphrased, I don't know where the actual verse is), as opposed to something from the Bible that we believe because God said so, which will seem utterly pointless to someone who doesn't make a habit of obedience to God.), memorize the verses, and gently integrate them into your conversations with your friends.
Situations like that can become frustrating and even desperate, but just remember to maintain a patient and kind attitude when dealing with nonbelievers. How else can we be the face of God?
Bless!
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:14 pm
seraph_of_despair I have to tell you now, that many of my friends aren't Christian. They are sick and tired of people trying to convert them. You may believe that it is the right thing to do, but some of you trying to push them to Christianity is just making them run in the other direction. I myself have been pegged as a non-believer. However, I must assure you that I am a Christian. Don't you guys have some friends like that? I don't try to convert them, because it pisses them off to no end. What do you guys do with friends like this? Do you keep pushing in hopes that they will one day convert while you are destroying your relationship or do you just not hang out with them anymore, because they might effect you? Quite a few of my ministers said in their sermons that if you cannot convert them you should not hang with them? I personally have qualms with this. What are your thoughts? I think praying for them is the answer. The problem is when we rely on our own words to convince them. That will never work. God is the only one who can convince their hearts. I really never witness because I'm so afraid of pissing someone off or pushing my beliefs on them, but I think this is wrong too. God did tell us to tell others. We just have to learn the right timing and to not try to debate them into a relationship with God. You might not want them as your closest friends, but don't stop hanging out with them. Jesus hung out with tax collectors and other sinners. He set the example for how to witness: be their friend and show them real love. Don't hide your belief in God but don't push it on them either. Pray for them a lot. God does the rest.
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