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 Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 8:28 pm
In theory, I suppose the forms at my school are designed for more than one attacker, but in order to follow them perfectly of course I'd have to start the fight with, "Okay, sorry, but could you just move a little over to the right? Thanks!" sweatdrop I do know that two-on-one sparring is a requirement for our black sash testing as well, though I haven't practiced that way yet.
I just always assumed, as has been said elsewhere, that martial arts classes are just giving you some handy tools for administering a beatdown. How you apply them is up to you, including your use of setting, extra opponents, the order in which you take out attackers, etc. Me, I'd be looking for the leader of the pack. Take him out first, and most of your problems are over. Of course, if you're a bit slow you'll be figuring that out around the time two of his cronies have you pinned... Still, no worries, eh? mrgreen Important tip: given the intelligence of the average thug, the one who starts talking first is a good bet. Nothing breaks the flow of a mugging like being at a loss for words. And, from a purely psychological standpoint, I recommend grinning like you're looking forward to a fight. It's surprising to me, but I'm pretty sure I evaded a few muggings myself simply by talking in a confusing way and wearing a big grin. They just didn't expect a white girl not to be scared, I guess. And nothing throws off a guy's rhythm like getting the wrong reaction from a girl... wink
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:04 pm
Quite a long while ago, when I was in middle school, I just learned basic judo and karate concepts from my father. This was at the end of my long streak of being beat up after school. Three classmates attacked me, I flipped one and pounced on the second. I managed to get on top of him and throw a few punches before the third got me in a headlock. Unfortunetly this is before my Aikido training so I couldn't do the ol' reach around the nose trick. So I elbowed him in the gut and squirmed out of his arms. I managed to hold the three of them off long enough for the bus driver to realise what's going on.
Fast foreward several years and I'm sparring with two of my friends. I grapple with the larger one and manage to hold him at bay until my other friend get's me in a piggy-back choke hold from behind. I simply grab him by the head and flip him over my shoulder.
I'm not sure what point I'm trying to make, but I have had some experience in fighting multiple opponents. The trick is really to stand your ground. If I go into a sturdy stance I'm a rock, and it is going to take alot to move me, probably more then two people.
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:55 am
My theory is that you postion your self and your oponent via graperling or oving so that his is between you and your other opponents, never postion your back to a brick wall because there going to slam you into it, so postion and disarm simple
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:57 am
Hylonomus Quite a long while ago, when I was in middle school, I just learned basic judo and karate concepts from my father. This was at the end of my long streak of being beat up after school. Three classmates attacked me, I flipped one and pounced on the second. I managed to get on top of him and throw a few punches before the third got me in a headlock. Unfortunetly this is before my Aikido training so I couldn't do the ol' reach around the nose trick. So I elbowed him in the gut and squirmed out of his arms. I managed to hold the three of them off long enough for the bus driver to realise what's going on. Fast foreward several years and I'm sparring with two of my friends. I grapple with the larger one and manage to hold him at bay until my other friend get's me in a piggy-back choke hold from behind. I simply grab him by the head and flip him over my shoulder. I'm not sure what point I'm trying to make, but I have had some experience in fighting multiple opponents. The trick is really to stand your ground. If I go into a sturdy stance I'm a rock, and it is going to take alot to move me, probably more then two people. A warning to your theory do not try that against agile styles like boxing, wing chun and others, because while your there standing like a rock in your big stance they will simple move around and puch crap out of you, so be careful with who you do that
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Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:03 pm
I train for that a lot its nice to know how to do it, bc you dont wanna get cornered and NOT know what to do, then ur boned
~X~
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Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2007 3:13 pm
Marty Nozz We occasionally do "bullring kumite" in which you face multiple opponents in an ever many for himself excercise. accually that excersise is known as rondori its quite common in aikido biggrin
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Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 10:41 am
I've trained some in my Tae Kwon Do, Muay Thai and Tang Soo Do schools.
My other styles such as Boxing, Judo and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu were all 1v1 training.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:52 am
In jujutsu we do alot of multi person attacks. Its the kind of situations you normally would come across in modern self defense scenarios. Practice or test your skills in a real life scenario before you think of trying it on the street.
Thing i hate about multi person attacks is you stomp their head once they fall down but you never have the time to disable them because the next attacker is trying to get you off their friend or just plain kill you. If your stomp wasnt good enough they might get up really angry and with fully functioning limbs.
Remember attackers who cant attack you cause their face bounced off the assphalt when you stomped your foot on the back of their head or foot to face bouncing the back of the head off the hard ground is a good tactic.
An attacker who can't fight won't fight or no longer lives is not the attacker coming at you next.
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:49 am
hmm, we did a performance type thing with multiple attackers, though ive done it with real fighting before
im good at spacial awareness, i have a good idea where people are and i think about what they are going to do.
just keep an eye on where people are. try not to keep your back to people, keep moving and dont let yourself get tied up on one person or another will come along
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:52 am
Any art that tries to teach you about multiple attacker situations, and tells you that you have a decent chance of surviving it is bullshit.
About the only way to even have a hope is sheer animal brutality. Go at the nearest target, put them down in the most evil bone breaking way you can then move onto the next asap. Even then the odds are well against you
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:11 pm
when we do randori, if there is an odd number of people often the seniors end up in groups of 3, with two people going against one. Its good fun, and very tricky especially when ur used to only having one person to worry about
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:41 pm
In black rose kenpo(Vicious art) We practiced it. Man it was me(200 lbs 6 foot) against a (6'3" 250 pound guy pure muscle) and another dude like 6'5" ugh sucked. I mean I'm taller than most people. That would never happen in real life.
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Posted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:44 pm
We do some of that in Krva Maga. It is a lot harder than with just one person. sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:50 am
Trying to deal with multiple attackers is too risky. Don't even bother, just get out of there - you're not Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris and this isn't a movie.
In Kutztown, PA, a kid was attacked by 3 other guys and was killed.
Personally, I think the moment a fight results in one victim being outnumbered, it should be automatically be legally considered attempted murder.
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Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 1:04 pm
Demonic Gladiator We do some of that in Krva Maga. It is a lot harder than with just one person. sweatdrop Level 5 (Brown) Advanced weapon defenses including firearms, advanced throws and groundwork, multiple attacker scenarios (both with and without weapons) and sparring against multiple opponents. From Wikipedia
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