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First, escaping singularities isn't a matter of speed. You said so yourself, Shrike can only handle about 600Gs... Not enough strength to MOVE in a singularity, let alone accelerate.

Second, Surfer turned his friend's BODY into a singularity. Not a point around him...

Btw, energy manipulation means shut off electricity. Matter manipulation means your body is now glass (hey. he did it with Quasimodo, another humanoid super computer)...

No one knows exactly how the Shrike's 'brain' works. It's a technology billions of years more advanced than anything anyone has ever seen in the books, and they take place in a pretty high - tech setting already.

You need some serious astrophysics lesson.

The reason nothing escapes a singularity is its tremendous gravitational pull. Shrike, according to your explanation, can handle only up to 600G. In a singularity, it simply can't move.

And you don't get the first move on a cosmically aware being...

The Shrike was created by the Ultimate Intelligence, which is a god that is capable of predicting literally everything in the entire universe. Unless this 'virus' is from a technology more advanced than that, it won't work.

The event horizon of a black hole is mathematically defined radius beyond which light cannot escape. However, if something could travel faster than light, that doesn't apply. So it could escape.

And apparently you don't understand the concept of a lower limit.

For example, say the lower limit to Hulk's strength is 70 tons. That doesn't mean he can't lift anything less than 70 tons, it means that, at the lowest showings, 70 tons is the most he can lift.

And the only time the Surfer fought anyone even remotely as fast as the Shrike was when he fought the Runner, and then he got owned. The Shrike is faster than the Runner, so it's pretty easy to conclude that Shrike > Runner > Surfer.

It doesn't matter how the speed is achieved, the fact is that he moves faster than light, and can escape.

And WTF is 'negative reaction time?'

Are you talking about precog? Since when does the Surfer have precog? Even if he did, it wouldn't help, because he wouldn't be fast enough to act on it.

Not to mention the fact that the Shrike has infinite bodies, so destroying one won't even do anything.

And you totally ignored the incident where he was completely blitzed and owned by the Runner.

If I want to be really mean, I can bring up the time he wasn't fast enough to prevent Karnak from knocking him out with a brick, or the time he was hit by Thing and knocked out.

For the last time, the 600Gs is a lower limit! Not an upper limit. We don't know the upper limit of the Shrike's gravity tolerance. Not to mention that the influence of gravity only travels at the speed of light, so something moving significantly faster will move so fast gravity won't even be able to reach it.

And the Shrike is faster than the Runner because the Shrike's top clocked speed is 340 trillion times the speed of light, and it has the theoretical capacity to go infinitely faster than that. "Out - running reality" doesn't mean anything, as it's not a quantifiable feat. Unless you can calculate exactly how fast that is, you can't use it as evidence.

And you ignored the part about him getting knocked out by Karnak and Thing, and the part about the Shrike having infinite bodies, you just keep avoiding that one, gee, I wonder why? Maybe because it proves me right that THE SURFER CAN'T WIN THIS.

EDIT: Oh, BTW, The Runner isn't an Eternal. He's one of the Elders of the Universe.

You just don't know when to give up, do you?

1. He can move inside a black hole since he travels faster than gravitons do. Gravity only travels at the speed of light. You did know this, didn't you?

2. Except we DO know the Surfer's upper limits. In Infinity War, for example, he nearly exhausted himself absorbing power from the sun.

3. Apparently you don't understand the meaning of 'quantifiable'. The root word of quantifiable is quantity, which means number. Give me a number, or you've got nothing. No, wait, never mind, I will. The top speed the Surfer has ever been clocked at is a little over 31 million times the speed of light, during Infinity Gauntlet when he made the gauntlet grab. He traveled 1 lightyear in 1 second. The top speed the Shrike has ever been clocked at is 340 trillion times the speed of light. That's 10,976,741.94 times faster. I don't even know why we're arguing about black holes anyway, since the numbers clearly indicate the Surfer will be blitzed before he can do anything.

4. I don't think you understand. The Shrike has infinite bodies, because it exists in infinite timelines simultaneously. You can't get rid of all of its bodies by destroying one, the bodies aren't linked together, as you so amusingly presume. In order to defeat the Shrike, you would have to have the ability to break a closed timelike curve, which, AFAIK, nothing in comics has ever shown the ability to do. Ever. Go look up 'closed timelike curve' and you'll start to understand.