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Nyuupyon
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:13 am


Dude-LAP
IndianapolisColtsFan
No, I've always preferred the college method of overtime, it challenges both teams as a whole, both offense and defense should be the one to win a game.. Not some coin flip decide that you can get a lucky play and get into field goal range.


In the last 27 NFL games that went into overtime, the team that had won the coin toss posted a 13-14 record... neutral


In the last 10 years, about 60% of teams that win the coin toss win the game.

In NCAA, the advantage is only 52% to the team choosing to take the ball 2nd. Still, taking the ball at the 25 yard line is.... Dumb. NCAA should change that.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:16 am


Nyu-kun
Dude-LAP
IndianapolisColtsFan
No, I've always preferred the college method of overtime, it challenges both teams as a whole, both offense and defense should be the one to win a game.. Not some coin flip decide that you can get a lucky play and get into field goal range.


In the last 27 NFL games that went into overtime, the team that had won the coin toss posted a 13-14 record... neutral


In the last 10 years, about 60% of teams that win the coin toss win the game.

In NCAA, the advantage is only 52% to the team choosing to take the ball 2nd. Still, taking the ball at the 25 yard line is.... Dumb. NCAA should change that.


The coin flip isn't rigged though. Each team has a 50% chance to receive the ball first. That's as even as it gets. What happens after the overtime kickoff is completely fair game. And an offense, defense, and special teams unit should be able to win a game. Not just one area of your team.

...And honestly, is there anything more exciting than sudden-death overtime in the NFL?

Dude-LAP


Nyuupyon
Captain

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:21 am


For a league that's geared towards offense, it's hardly fair. I mean, all these rules. Illegal Contact, Roughing the Passer is so much more stricter now, and just... =/
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:08 am


Yeah, it's just frustrating seeing a team win the toss get a lucky play and a penalty and field goal, the game is over..

IndianapolisColtsFan


KTS

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:35 am


IndianapolisColtsFan
Yeah, it's just frustrating seeing a team win the toss get a lucky play and a penalty and field goal, the game is over..
But what if that team throw an Interception. The Defense can win it. There are multiple ways for any team to win and chances are it'll affect the Season as a whole.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:31 pm


KTS
IndianapolisColtsFan
Yeah, it's just frustrating seeing a team win the toss get a lucky play and a penalty and field goal, the game is over..
But what if that team throw an Interception. The Defense can win it. There are multiple ways for any team to win and chances are it'll affect the Season as a whole.


How often does an interception happen though? You see quarterbacks throw less than 10 interceptions a year. A fumble might happen, but again, odds are more than likely, no. Defensive scores are just so rare. Games rarely win on a defensive play. A huge offensive play is more likely to happen than a defensive one.

Nyuupyon
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Dude-LAP

PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:30 pm


Nyu-kun
KTS
IndianapolisColtsFan
Yeah, it's just frustrating seeing a team win the toss get a lucky play and a penalty and field goal, the game is over..
But what if that team throw an Interception. The Defense can win it. There are multiple ways for any team to win and chances are it'll affect the Season as a whole.


How often does an interception happen though? You see quarterbacks throw less than 10 interceptions a year. A fumble might happen, but again, odds are more than likely, no. Defensive scores are just so rare. Games rarely win on a defensive play. A huge offensive play is more likely to happen than a defensive one.


Read my stat above with the overtime coin-toss winners posting a 13-14 record in the past 27 NFL overtime games. That means that each team's offense had the ball for at least once during those 14 recorded losses. And there are definitely some in the 13 recorded wins as well.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:45 pm


Your numbers are a small sample size.

In 1994 a rule changed moved the kickoff back 5 yards to the 30 yard line. Since then, it's been about 60% of the teams that win the coin toss win the game. Prior to the rule change, the coin toss had no predictive value for deciding who would eventually win the game. Since 1994, the coin flip winner has a clear advantage.

>_> 60% is a large percentage.

Copy Pasta. Old, but... Eh... Principles still apply.

http://www.maa.org/mathland/mathtrek_11_08_04.html
A recent analysis by economist Richard E. Hawkins of Pennsylvania State University in DuBois confirms that these differences are statistically significant.

"The analysis finds with 99.99 % certainty that the [coin] flip has made a difference in the outcome of the game over the last 10 years," he concludes. "But for the period prior to those 10 years, the coin flip cannot be shown to be important."

Would a first-to-six overtime rule do any better?

In the current issue of the College Mathematics Journal, Michael A. Jones of Montclair State University in New Jersey uses a probability model and data from the 2002 NFL regular season to compare the current overtime rule with the suggested first-to-six rule. His analysis looks at the impact of the coin toss on both the outcome of the game and the efficiency of eliminating ties.

Using a so-called Markov chain model, Jones examines the consequences of sudden-death overtime on two fairly matched teams, assuming that both teams have equal probabilities of scoring a touchdown and kicking a field goal. He does the same for the first-to-six proposal.

"The first-to-six proposal does decrease the probabilities that the receiving team wins the game on the first possession and that they win the game eventually," Jones concludes. However, "although the first-to-six rule reduces the impact of the coin toss on the outcome of the game, it is less efficient at eliminating ties."

Applied to 2002 data, the model developed by Jones suggests that the team winning the coin toss and receiving the ball would win with a probability of 49 percent under the first-to-six rule (versus 60 percent for sudden-death overtime). The probability of games ending in a tie would rise to 12 percent (versus 9 percent).

Is the suggested rule worth implementing?

"This reduction in the impact of the coin toss on the outcome of the game is a trade-off because of the increase in the number of tie games," Jones writes. "Although fans would be happy that the outcome of the game is decided less by luck and more by play on the field, coaches may regret Monday morning quarterbacks second-guessing their decisions of whether or not to attempt field goals in overtime. Scoring three points still gives the other team an opportunity to score a touchdown and win the game."

"One thing is certain," he adds. "The first-to-six proposal increases the probability that fans will discuss the National Football League in the off-season."

Nyuupyon
Captain


Dude-LAP

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:40 pm


Nyu-kun
Your numbers are a small sample size.

In 1994 a rule changed moved the kickoff back 5 yards to the 30 yard line. Since then, it's been about 60% of the teams that win the coin toss win the game. Prior to the rule change, the coin toss had no predictive value for deciding who would eventually win the game. Since 1994, the coin flip winner has a clear advantage.

>_> 60% is a large percentage.

Copy Pasta. Old, but... Eh... Principles still apply.

http://www.maa.org/mathland/mathtrek_11_08_04.html
A recent analysis by economist Richard E. Hawkins of Pennsylvania State University in DuBois confirms that these differences are statistically significant.

"The analysis finds with 99.99 % certainty that the [coin] flip has made a difference in the outcome of the game over the last 10 years," he concludes. "But for the period prior to those 10 years, the coin flip cannot be shown to be important."

Would a first-to-six overtime rule do any better?

In the current issue of the College Mathematics Journal, Michael A. Jones of Montclair State University in New Jersey uses a probability model and data from the 2002 NFL regular season to compare the current overtime rule with the suggested first-to-six rule. His analysis looks at the impact of the coin toss on both the outcome of the game and the efficiency of eliminating ties.

Using a so-called Markov chain model, Jones examines the consequences of sudden-death overtime on two fairly matched teams, assuming that both teams have equal probabilities of scoring a touchdown and kicking a field goal. He does the same for the first-to-six proposal.

"The first-to-six proposal does decrease the probabilities that the receiving team wins the game on the first possession and that they win the game eventually," Jones concludes. However, "although the first-to-six rule reduces the impact of the coin toss on the outcome of the game, it is less efficient at eliminating ties."

Applied to 2002 data, the model developed by Jones suggests that the team winning the coin toss and receiving the ball would win with a probability of 49 percent under the first-to-six rule (versus 60 percent for sudden-death overtime). The probability of games ending in a tie would rise to 12 percent (versus 9 percent).

Is the suggested rule worth implementing?

"This reduction in the impact of the coin toss on the outcome of the game is a trade-off because of the increase in the number of tie games," Jones writes. "Although fans would be happy that the outcome of the game is decided less by luck and more by play on the field, coaches may regret Monday morning quarterbacks second-guessing their decisions of whether or not to attempt field goals in overtime. Scoring three points still gives the other team an opportunity to score a touchdown and win the game."

"One thing is certain," he adds. "The first-to-six proposal increases the probability that fans will discuss the National Football League in the off-season."


If overtime changes to a "first to six points" rule, then people will still complain. They'll complain if the opposing team gets the ball first and scores a touchdown, without their own side seeing the ball. They'll also complain if the opposing team kicks two field-goals in their first two possessions, while their own team only got the ball once.

The way I see it, a coin-flip is a coin-flip. Each team has a 50% chance of getting the ball first. That's an even chance for either team. And if outdoors, the losing team gets to choose the side, which can be a consolation if there is wind.

Overtime in the NFL is one of the most exciting things in all of sports. Why change it? Why change history? And an NFL team should be prepared to develop their defensive unit and special teams unit, as much as their offense. You can't always rely on an offense to win a game.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:49 pm


Dude-LAP
Nyu-kun
Your numbers are a small sample size.

In 1994 a rule changed moved the kickoff back 5 yards to the 30 yard line. Since then, it's been about 60% of the teams that win the coin toss win the game. Prior to the rule change, the coin toss had no predictive value for deciding who would eventually win the game. Since 1994, the coin flip winner has a clear advantage.

>_> 60% is a large percentage.

Copy Pasta. Old, but... Eh... Principles still apply.

http://www.maa.org/mathland/mathtrek_11_08_04.html
A recent analysis by economist Richard E. Hawkins of Pennsylvania State University in DuBois confirms that these differences are statistically significant.

"The analysis finds with 99.99 % certainty that the [coin] flip has made a difference in the outcome of the game over the last 10 years," he concludes. "But for the period prior to those 10 years, the coin flip cannot be shown to be important."

Would a first-to-six overtime rule do any better?

In the current issue of the College Mathematics Journal, Michael A. Jones of Montclair State University in New Jersey uses a probability model and data from the 2002 NFL regular season to compare the current overtime rule with the suggested first-to-six rule. His analysis looks at the impact of the coin toss on both the outcome of the game and the efficiency of eliminating ties.

Using a so-called Markov chain model, Jones examines the consequences of sudden-death overtime on two fairly matched teams, assuming that both teams have equal probabilities of scoring a touchdown and kicking a field goal. He does the same for the first-to-six proposal.

"The first-to-six proposal does decrease the probabilities that the receiving team wins the game on the first possession and that they win the game eventually," Jones concludes. However, "although the first-to-six rule reduces the impact of the coin toss on the outcome of the game, it is less efficient at eliminating ties."

Applied to 2002 data, the model developed by Jones suggests that the team winning the coin toss and receiving the ball would win with a probability of 49 percent under the first-to-six rule (versus 60 percent for sudden-death overtime). The probability of games ending in a tie would rise to 12 percent (versus 9 percent).

Is the suggested rule worth implementing?

"This reduction in the impact of the coin toss on the outcome of the game is a trade-off because of the increase in the number of tie games," Jones writes. "Although fans would be happy that the outcome of the game is decided less by luck and more by play on the field, coaches may regret Monday morning quarterbacks second-guessing their decisions of whether or not to attempt field goals in overtime. Scoring three points still gives the other team an opportunity to score a touchdown and win the game."

"One thing is certain," he adds. "The first-to-six proposal increases the probability that fans will discuss the National Football League in the off-season."


If overtime changes to a "first to six points" rule, then people will still complain. They'll complain if the opposing team gets the ball first and scores a touchdown, without their own side seeing the ball. They'll also complain if the opposing team kicks two field-goals in their first two possessions, while their own team only got the ball once.

The way I see it, a coin-flip is a coin-flip. Each team has a 50% chance of getting the ball first. That's an even chance for either team. And if outdoors, the losing team gets to choose the side, which can be a consolation if there is wind.

Overtime in the NFL is one of the most exciting things in all of sports. Why change it? Why change history? And an NFL team should be prepared to develop their defensive unit and special teams unit, as much as their offense. You can't always rely on an offense to win a game.


I agree that people will just complain no matter what rules you change, but i also dont like the sudden death rule, but this rule seems unfair to the special teams so i dont know.....there has to be another way sweatdrop

Torchwoods Lost Love


IndianapolisColtsFan

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:13 pm


Dude-LAP
Nyu-kun
Your numbers are a small sample size.

In 1994 a rule changed moved the kickoff back 5 yards to the 30 yard line. Since then, it's been about 60% of the teams that win the coin toss win the game. Prior to the rule change, the coin toss had no predictive value for deciding who would eventually win the game. Since 1994, the coin flip winner has a clear advantage.

>_> 60% is a large percentage.

Copy Pasta. Old, but... Eh... Principles still apply.

http://www.maa.org/mathland/mathtrek_11_08_04.html
A recent analysis by economist Richard E. Hawkins of Pennsylvania State University in DuBois confirms that these differences are statistically significant.

"The analysis finds with 99.99 % certainty that the [coin] flip has made a difference in the outcome of the game over the last 10 years," he concludes. "But for the period prior to those 10 years, the coin flip cannot be shown to be important."

Would a first-to-six overtime rule do any better?

In the current issue of the College Mathematics Journal, Michael A. Jones of Montclair State University in New Jersey uses a probability model and data from the 2002 NFL regular season to compare the current overtime rule with the suggested first-to-six rule. His analysis looks at the impact of the coin toss on both the outcome of the game and the efficiency of eliminating ties.

Using a so-called Markov chain model, Jones examines the consequences of sudden-death overtime on two fairly matched teams, assuming that both teams have equal probabilities of scoring a touchdown and kicking a field goal. He does the same for the first-to-six proposal.

"The first-to-six proposal does decrease the probabilities that the receiving team wins the game on the first possession and that they win the game eventually," Jones concludes. However, "although the first-to-six rule reduces the impact of the coin toss on the outcome of the game, it is less efficient at eliminating ties."

Applied to 2002 data, the model developed by Jones suggests that the team winning the coin toss and receiving the ball would win with a probability of 49 percent under the first-to-six rule (versus 60 percent for sudden-death overtime). The probability of games ending in a tie would rise to 12 percent (versus 9 percent).

Is the suggested rule worth implementing?

"This reduction in the impact of the coin toss on the outcome of the game is a trade-off because of the increase in the number of tie games," Jones writes. "Although fans would be happy that the outcome of the game is decided less by luck and more by play on the field, coaches may regret Monday morning quarterbacks second-guessing their decisions of whether or not to attempt field goals in overtime. Scoring three points still gives the other team an opportunity to score a touchdown and win the game."

"One thing is certain," he adds. "The first-to-six proposal increases the probability that fans will discuss the National Football League in the off-season."


If overtime changes to a "first to six points" rule, then people will still complain. They'll complain if the opposing team gets the ball first and scores a touchdown, without their own side seeing the ball. They'll also complain if the opposing team kicks two field-goals in their first two possessions, while their own team only got the ball once.

The way I see it, a coin-flip is a coin-flip. Each team has a 50% chance of getting the ball first. That's an even chance for either team. And if outdoors, the losing team gets to choose the side, which can be a consolation if there is wind.

Overtime in the NFL is one of the most exciting things in all of sports. Why change it? Why change history? And an NFL team should be prepared to develop their defensive unit and special teams unit, as much as their offense. You can't always rely on an offense to win a game.

I don't see to many complaints about college over-time..
PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:07 pm


IndianapolisColtsFan
Dude-LAP
Nyu-kun
Your numbers are a small sample size.

In 1994 a rule changed moved the kickoff back 5 yards to the 30 yard line. Since then, it's been about 60% of the teams that win the coin toss win the game. Prior to the rule change, the coin toss had no predictive value for deciding who would eventually win the game. Since 1994, the coin flip winner has a clear advantage.

>_> 60% is a large percentage.

Copy Pasta. Old, but... Eh... Principles still apply.

http://www.maa.org/mathland/mathtrek_11_08_04.html
A recent analysis by economist Richard E. Hawkins of Pennsylvania State University in DuBois confirms that these differences are statistically significant.

"The analysis finds with 99.99 % certainty that the [coin] flip has made a difference in the outcome of the game over the last 10 years," he concludes. "But for the period prior to those 10 years, the coin flip cannot be shown to be important."

Would a first-to-six overtime rule do any better?

In the current issue of the College Mathematics Journal, Michael A. Jones of Montclair State University in New Jersey uses a probability model and data from the 2002 NFL regular season to compare the current overtime rule with the suggested first-to-six rule. His analysis looks at the impact of the coin toss on both the outcome of the game and the efficiency of eliminating ties.

Using a so-called Markov chain model, Jones examines the consequences of sudden-death overtime on two fairly matched teams, assuming that both teams have equal probabilities of scoring a touchdown and kicking a field goal. He does the same for the first-to-six proposal.

"The first-to-six proposal does decrease the probabilities that the receiving team wins the game on the first possession and that they win the game eventually," Jones concludes. However, "although the first-to-six rule reduces the impact of the coin toss on the outcome of the game, it is less efficient at eliminating ties."

Applied to 2002 data, the model developed by Jones suggests that the team winning the coin toss and receiving the ball would win with a probability of 49 percent under the first-to-six rule (versus 60 percent for sudden-death overtime). The probability of games ending in a tie would rise to 12 percent (versus 9 percent).

Is the suggested rule worth implementing?

"This reduction in the impact of the coin toss on the outcome of the game is a trade-off because of the increase in the number of tie games," Jones writes. "Although fans would be happy that the outcome of the game is decided less by luck and more by play on the field, coaches may regret Monday morning quarterbacks second-guessing their decisions of whether or not to attempt field goals in overtime. Scoring three points still gives the other team an opportunity to score a touchdown and win the game."

"One thing is certain," he adds. "The first-to-six proposal increases the probability that fans will discuss the National Football League in the off-season."


If overtime changes to a "first to six points" rule, then people will still complain. They'll complain if the opposing team gets the ball first and scores a touchdown, without their own side seeing the ball. They'll also complain if the opposing team kicks two field-goals in their first two possessions, while their own team only got the ball once.

The way I see it, a coin-flip is a coin-flip. Each team has a 50% chance of getting the ball first. That's an even chance for either team. And if outdoors, the losing team gets to choose the side, which can be a consolation if there is wind.

Overtime in the NFL is one of the most exciting things in all of sports. Why change it? Why change history? And an NFL team should be prepared to develop their defensive unit and special teams unit, as much as their offense. You can't always rely on an offense to win a game.

I don't see to many complaints about college over-time..
That's because we people hardly see the NCAA change rules.

KTS


IndianapolisColtsFan

PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:21 pm


KTS
IndianapolisColtsFan
Dude-LAP
Nyu-kun
Your numbers are a small sample size.

In 1994 a rule changed moved the kickoff back 5 yards to the 30 yard line. Since then, it's been about 60% of the teams that win the coin toss win the game. Prior to the rule change, the coin toss had no predictive value for deciding who would eventually win the game. Since 1994, the coin flip winner has a clear advantage.

>_> 60% is a large percentage.

Copy Pasta. Old, but... Eh... Principles still apply.

http://www.maa.org/mathland/mathtrek_11_08_04.html
A recent analysis by economist Richard E. Hawkins of Pennsylvania State University in DuBois confirms that these differences are statistically significant.

"The analysis finds with 99.99 % certainty that the [coin] flip has made a difference in the outcome of the game over the last 10 years," he concludes. "But for the period prior to those 10 years, the coin flip cannot be shown to be important."

Would a first-to-six overtime rule do any better?

In the current issue of the College Mathematics Journal, Michael A. Jones of Montclair State University in New Jersey uses a probability model and data from the 2002 NFL regular season to compare the current overtime rule with the suggested first-to-six rule. His analysis looks at the impact of the coin toss on both the outcome of the game and the efficiency of eliminating ties.

Using a so-called Markov chain model, Jones examines the consequences of sudden-death overtime on two fairly matched teams, assuming that both teams have equal probabilities of scoring a touchdown and kicking a field goal. He does the same for the first-to-six proposal.

"The first-to-six proposal does decrease the probabilities that the receiving team wins the game on the first possession and that they win the game eventually," Jones concludes. However, "although the first-to-six rule reduces the impact of the coin toss on the outcome of the game, it is less efficient at eliminating ties."

Applied to 2002 data, the model developed by Jones suggests that the team winning the coin toss and receiving the ball would win with a probability of 49 percent under the first-to-six rule (versus 60 percent for sudden-death overtime). The probability of games ending in a tie would rise to 12 percent (versus 9 percent).

Is the suggested rule worth implementing?

"This reduction in the impact of the coin toss on the outcome of the game is a trade-off because of the increase in the number of tie games," Jones writes. "Although fans would be happy that the outcome of the game is decided less by luck and more by play on the field, coaches may regret Monday morning quarterbacks second-guessing their decisions of whether or not to attempt field goals in overtime. Scoring three points still gives the other team an opportunity to score a touchdown and win the game."

"One thing is certain," he adds. "The first-to-six proposal increases the probability that fans will discuss the National Football League in the off-season."


If overtime changes to a "first to six points" rule, then people will still complain. They'll complain if the opposing team gets the ball first and scores a touchdown, without their own side seeing the ball. They'll also complain if the opposing team kicks two field-goals in their first two possessions, while their own team only got the ball once.

The way I see it, a coin-flip is a coin-flip. Each team has a 50% chance of getting the ball first. That's an even chance for either team. And if outdoors, the losing team gets to choose the side, which can be a consolation if there is wind.

Overtime in the NFL is one of the most exciting things in all of sports. Why change it? Why change history? And an NFL team should be prepared to develop their defensive unit and special teams unit, as much as their offense. You can't always rely on an offense to win a game.

I don't see to many complaints about college over-time..
That's because we people hardly see the NCAA change rules.

But why do we always hear complaints about NFL overtime while we almost never hear complaints in college?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:40 pm


IndianapolisColtsFan
KTS
IndianapolisColtsFan
Dude-LAP
Nyu-kun
Your numbers are a small sample size.

In 1994 a rule changed moved the kickoff back 5 yards to the 30 yard line. Since then, it's been about 60% of the teams that win the coin toss win the game. Prior to the rule change, the coin toss had no predictive value for deciding who would eventually win the game. Since 1994, the coin flip winner has a clear advantage.

>_> 60% is a large percentage.

Copy Pasta. Old, but... Eh... Principles still apply.

http://www.maa.org/mathland/mathtrek_11_08_04.html
A recent analysis by economist Richard E. Hawkins of Pennsylvania State University in DuBois confirms that these differences are statistically significant.

"The analysis finds with 99.99 % certainty that the [coin] flip has made a difference in the outcome of the game over the last 10 years," he concludes. "But for the period prior to those 10 years, the coin flip cannot be shown to be important."

Would a first-to-six overtime rule do any better?

In the current issue of the College Mathematics Journal, Michael A. Jones of Montclair State University in New Jersey uses a probability model and data from the 2002 NFL regular season to compare the current overtime rule with the suggested first-to-six rule. His analysis looks at the impact of the coin toss on both the outcome of the game and the efficiency of eliminating ties.

Using a so-called Markov chain model, Jones examines the consequences of sudden-death overtime on two fairly matched teams, assuming that both teams have equal probabilities of scoring a touchdown and kicking a field goal. He does the same for the first-to-six proposal.

"The first-to-six proposal does decrease the probabilities that the receiving team wins the game on the first possession and that they win the game eventually," Jones concludes. However, "although the first-to-six rule reduces the impact of the coin toss on the outcome of the game, it is less efficient at eliminating ties."

Applied to 2002 data, the model developed by Jones suggests that the team winning the coin toss and receiving the ball would win with a probability of 49 percent under the first-to-six rule (versus 60 percent for sudden-death overtime). The probability of games ending in a tie would rise to 12 percent (versus 9 percent).

Is the suggested rule worth implementing?

"This reduction in the impact of the coin toss on the outcome of the game is a trade-off because of the increase in the number of tie games," Jones writes. "Although fans would be happy that the outcome of the game is decided less by luck and more by play on the field, coaches may regret Monday morning quarterbacks second-guessing their decisions of whether or not to attempt field goals in overtime. Scoring three points still gives the other team an opportunity to score a touchdown and win the game."

"One thing is certain," he adds. "The first-to-six proposal increases the probability that fans will discuss the National Football League in the off-season."


If overtime changes to a "first to six points" rule, then people will still complain. They'll complain if the opposing team gets the ball first and scores a touchdown, without their own side seeing the ball. They'll also complain if the opposing team kicks two field-goals in their first two possessions, while their own team only got the ball once.

The way I see it, a coin-flip is a coin-flip. Each team has a 50% chance of getting the ball first. That's an even chance for either team. And if outdoors, the losing team gets to choose the side, which can be a consolation if there is wind.

Overtime in the NFL is one of the most exciting things in all of sports. Why change it? Why change history? And an NFL team should be prepared to develop their defensive unit and special teams unit, as much as their offense. You can't always rely on an offense to win a game.

I don't see to many complaints about college over-time..
That's because we people hardly see the NCAA change rules.

But why do we always hear complaints about NFL overtime while we almost never hear complaints in college?


But that's not a practical football overtime rule at all. It makes no sense. It no longer becomes a football game, it's more like a practice drill.

Dude-LAP

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