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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:30 pm


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I've created an additional type of crystal in my world, but I can't really say much on them. ^_^' They could be likened to that of the big Final Fantasy crystals from ages past, and perhaps they were part of the inspiration behind this idea. I think the size of them can be linked to the old FF crystals, but the look of them is not so different from the varla stones in Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion.


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Good for you Mel!
Isn't it odd that a lot of games in the FF saga have had a crystal in some form or another? Even the "Materia" from FF7 seem like some form of crystals to me. Granted they might not be the exact same thing but you know what I mean, right?
Those games have been so popular that I wouldn't find it odd to see that many writers have been inspired by their crystals.
I'm trying to see if any of my stories include crystals of some sort but I can't recall any. Hmm...
It's too bad I don't know much about that Oblivion game except for what I've read on EGM (and that's not much either).
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 12:14 pm


Yeah, I know what you mean.

Here's a question. Where can crystals grow? I looked online and can only find HOW they grow, not specific places where they can or cannot. Let's say, in a forest so long as there were rocks for them to form on or something?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:15 am


Thanks!

Hmm, I am not very well informed in the matter and if wikipedia doesn't say where they get formed, well... I suppose the only thing I could do is guess.
In FF7, materia flows from the streams within the earth and when they condense, materia is born deep within caves so, maybe crystals here form in a similar way to stalactites or stalagmites. You know? Either that, or they could be formed when certain materials come together inside volcanoes or where there is a lot of heat. You know how you can make glass out of sand, right? Well, that's pretty much what I'm thinking right now... 3nodding
PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:46 pm


Basically, any place where the crystal has time to grow, undisturbed. Other than that, it depends largely on what type of mineral is doing the crystalizing. Some crystals grow faster than others, meaning that its crystals could form in a place that is more likely to be disturbed. Others require a certain amount of heat or pressure.

Here's a few examples.

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This is a photograph from a mine near Naica, Mexico. The crystals are selenite, a form of gypsum, and they are some of the largest crystals in the world at as much as 40 feet long. The person in the picture is wearing a protective suit that insulates him from the extreme heat in the cave. The cavern where they were found was originally flooded with water before the connected mine drained it. The minerals formed crystals as it precipitated out of its suspension in the water. Naica is hardly the only place that selenite has formed, and it was well known that it is a crystal dependent on water for form before the discover of the Naica cave. But it is apparent that it likes heat as well.

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This is a picture of a pair of amethyst cathedrals we have where I work. They are about five feet tall and are two halves of the same geode. They were found in Brazil in an area where there had once been a great deal of volcanic activity. Geodes form as pockets of gas in magma and lava. After they harden, water carries other minerals into the space and deposits them, forming crystals. This particular set was found in a long tube of volcanic stone.

It's important to remember that a crystal's shape is an outward manifestation of its molecular structure. The more disturbed the crystal is while it is forming or the more other "stuff" gets in the way, the more distorted it will be or the smaller the crystals will be. So you're going to want to find places that will be undisturbed by civilization, flora and fauna, and recent seismic activity. This is why caves tend to be some of the best places to find crystals.

It's also important to note that the faster a crystal forms, in general, the softer it will be. Selenite, for example, forms relatively quickly in comparison to crystals in the quartz family. However, it dissolves in water quite readily. So the really durable crystals, the ones that might in a fantasy setting be a magical artifact passed from person to person over a number of generations, probably took a very long time to form.

Don't know if any of that rambling helped at all. But it's the light I can shed on it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:46 pm


Your rambling helps a lot Berz, so I'd like to ask how crystal formation is disturbed by different things. If people left them alone, if animals didn't touch them and if plants just did their own thing as well......would that affect the process?

I'd just like to know how such disturbances happen so I can work on different areas of my world involving crystals much more effectively.
PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:22 pm


Well, consider that plants' roots are water-seeking as they grow and they will creep into any tiny crevice to find it. Plants are known to grow into stone and, eventually, break it apart. So plant growth is a sort of disturbance in and of itself. Given that, crystals have to form deep enough that plants are not an issue.

Eliminating plants as well as animals and human activities, we're largely left with seismic and aquatic disturbances. An earthquake happens, breaks apart a cave or caves it in. A sudden drought drains an underground lake. Things like that.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:56 am


Hey Berz! That was the coolest ranting I've ever seen! I actually read the whole thing! wink
I suppose I was right about the caves thing, huh? And I was onto something with the heat, wasn't I?
Thanks a lot for the info! Now Mel, me and lots of our members have something to go on regarding crystals. 3nodding
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:06 pm


This is where I slip into the supernatural side of things. I have a method of making this idea plausible in a forest, but of course it would take a long time to explain and would give away quite a bit on how my world works. ^_^'

Your knowledge on the subject is well accepted and considered Berz. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 3:58 pm


Really Mel? A forest? It wouldn't be an enchanted forest now, would it? I like the idea and you don't have to explain it at all. wink

Yes Berz, thanks a lot! Common sense can only take you so far cuz, I had only clues about certain things myself. mrgreen
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