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Shinobi_8745

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:42 am


Blackened Heart Sucubi
scurr
to be honest all shinobi has done is gave me advice,so have you but you flamed his advice.


i flamed his advice because he flamed me...
What of all the things I said was flaming? D:
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:43 am


ok... so i've been playing people for three years thinking that terminator armor is plus one to your invulnerable,i have even been told this by people on numerous occasions.

*slaps myself*

Herr Kaiser

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Shinobi_8745

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:44 am


Slap them instead and hold speeches of how it works. pirate

In fantasy armour gets added together for bonuses, but it doesn't for 40k.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:45 am


scurr
ok... so i've been playing people for three years thinking that terminator armor is plus one to your invulnerable,i have even been told this by people on numerous occasions.

*slaps myself*


it give them a 2/5 unless their invul is already better... like somebody with power armor/ Iron Halo takes Termi armor he is still 4+ invul but now his armor is 2+

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Herr Kaiser

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:45 am


i must have got them confused. confused
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:57 am


scurr
so... i just put together rules for a chaos lord special character.

Dark apostle Biuphas Darkscale of the word bearers

280 PTS

stats:
WS 6
BS 5
S 5
T 4
W 4
I 5
A 4
LD 10
Sv 2+/4+

equipment:
combi bolter/flamer

Tainted crozius arcanum

Helm of true sight

terminator armour

Rules:

Eternal warrior

independant character

inspiring (attatched squad becomes fearless)

fearless

4+ invulnerable(with terminator armor/in profile)

helm of true sight: it is said that this daemon forged helmet can see into the very soul of a man and shatter it at will. (any assaulting unit must take a morale test at -1)

Tainted crozius arcanum:
Once a weapon of the proud forces of the imperium this weapon now lies in the hands of chaos and has become demoniacally possessed.
(force weapon)

opinions please.


Well really you could do most of this as a regular lord character. ^^ Now let's see...

I'd ditch the force weapon myself, unless you want him to have other psychic powers too, then it'd be kinda neat. A base demon weapon would probably work better than the intended force weapon. So make the strength 4(5) for the daemon weapon and there you go., and drop the extra attack to stats. (Daemon weapon gives you random extra attacks ; )

Eternal warrior and inspiring are a given of course. Makes him really badass too. I'm not sure about the helm of true sight. Chances are it'd only really stop people that are weak in close combat anyway, so it might be better to drop that.

Now if you make the changes I suggested, I'd say his point cost would run you abouttt... 200 points

BloodyMary76

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Hoxtalicious

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:58 am


Points: 235 pts.

WS 6
BS 5
S 5
T 4
W 4
I 5
A 4
LD 10
Sv 2+/4+

Okay, so far so good.

Kit: Accursed Crozius (Daemonic weapon that also confers a 4+ invulnerable save due to the favour bestowed upon the Dark Apostle by the Gods of Chaos), combi-flamer

Special rules.

Eternal warrior, Independent Character and Daemonifugue*

* Word Bearer units (power armour and terminator models, the rest is either too fickle, insane or summoned) within 6" of the Dark Apostle will automatically pass any required morale tests
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:05 am


I was about to post some ideas, but Brookman pretty well just summed up everything that I was thinking.

Caleidah

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BloodyMary76

Witty Conversationalist

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:06 am


Lt. Brookman
Points: 235 pts.

WS 6
BS 5
S 5
T 4
W 4
I 5
A 4
LD 10
Sv 2+/4+

Okay, so far so good.

Kit: Accursed Crozius (Daemonic weapon that also confers a 4+ invulnerable save due to the favour bestowed upon the Dark Apostle by the Gods of Chaos), combi-flamer

Special rules.

Eternal warrior, Independent Character, Inspiring (confers Fearless to other units) and Daemonifugue*

* Word Bearer units (power armour and terminator models, the rest is either too fickle, insane or summoned) within 6" of the Dark Apostle will automatically pass any required morale tests


Wait a minute, doesn't Daemonifugue make Inspiring worthless? O o
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:08 am


Creating a character requires a few things:

- deep thought
- patience
- understanding of the army it is meant for
- common sense, lot's and lot's of this

Hoxtalicious

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Hoxtalicious

Greedy Partner

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:09 am


Sgt_OBrien
Lt. Brookman
Points: 235 pts.

WS 6
BS 5
S 5
T 4
W 4
I 5
A 4
LD 10
Sv 2+/4+

Okay, so far so good.

Kit: Accursed Crozius (Daemonic weapon that also confers a 4+ invulnerable save due to the favour bestowed upon the Dark Apostle by the Gods of Chaos), combi-flamer

Special rules.

Eternal warrior, Independent Character, Inspiring (confers Fearless to other units) and Daemonifugue*

* Word Bearer units (power armour and terminator models, the rest is either too fickle, insane or summoned) within 6" of the Dark Apostle will automatically pass any required morale tests


Wait a minute, doesn't Daemonifugue make Inspiring worthless? O o
Hmm, right you are there Ted.

Removed! ninja
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:11 am


Lt. Brookman
Sgt_OBrien
Lt. Brookman
Points: 235 pts.

WS 6
BS 5
S 5
T 4
W 4
I 5
A 4
LD 10
Sv 2+/4+

Okay, so far so good.

Kit: Accursed Crozius (Daemonic weapon that also confers a 4+ invulnerable save due to the favour bestowed upon the Dark Apostle by the Gods of Chaos), combi-flamer

Special rules.

Eternal warrior, Independent Character, Inspiring (confers Fearless to other units) and Daemonifugue*

* Word Bearer units (power armour and terminator models, the rest is either too fickle, insane or summoned) within 6" of the Dark Apostle will automatically pass any required morale tests


Wait a minute, doesn't Daemonifugue make Inspiring worthless? O o
Hmm, right you are there Ted.

Removed! ninja


Good job, you even remembed to modify the points value to reflect losing a special rule. ^_~

BloodyMary76

Witty Conversationalist


Hoxtalicious

Greedy Partner

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:12 am


Sgt_OBrien
Lt. Brookman
Sgt_OBrien
Lt. Brookman
Points: 235 pts.

WS 6
BS 5
S 5
T 4
W 4
I 5
A 4
LD 10
Sv 2+/4+

Okay, so far so good.

Kit: Accursed Crozius (Daemonic weapon that also confers a 4+ invulnerable save due to the favour bestowed upon the Dark Apostle by the Gods of Chaos), combi-flamer

Special rules.

Eternal warrior, Independent Character, Inspiring (confers Fearless to other units) and Daemonifugue*

* Word Bearer units (power armour and terminator models, the rest is either too fickle, insane or summoned) within 6" of the Dark Apostle will automatically pass any required morale tests


Wait a minute, doesn't Daemonifugue make Inspiring worthless? O o
Hmm, right you are there Ted.

Removed! ninja


Good job, you even remembed to modify the points value to reflect losing a special rule. ^_~
Fuggit, the character has great value for what it can do. Besides I don't play Chaos. I'm just helping the kid out.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:13 am


Lt. Brookman
Sgt_OBrien
Lt. Brookman
Sgt_OBrien
Lt. Brookman
Points: 235 pts.

WS 6
BS 5
S 5
T 4
W 4
I 5
A 4
LD 10
Sv 2+/4+

Okay, so far so good.

Kit: Accursed Crozius (Daemonic weapon that also confers a 4+ invulnerable save due to the favour bestowed upon the Dark Apostle by the Gods of Chaos), combi-flamer

Special rules.

Eternal warrior, Independent Character, Inspiring (confers Fearless to other units) and Daemonifugue*

* Word Bearer units (power armour and terminator models, the rest is either too fickle, insane or summoned) within 6" of the Dark Apostle will automatically pass any required morale tests


Wait a minute, doesn't Daemonifugue make Inspiring worthless? O o
Hmm, right you are there Ted.

Removed! ninja


Good job, you even remembed to modify the points value to reflect losing a special rule. ^_~
Fuggit, the character has great value for what it can do. Besides I don't play Chaos. I'm just helping the kid out.


Well how much did Daemonifugue used to cost anyway? O o Because I'd say this makes it about 35-40 points

BloodyMary76

Witty Conversationalist


Hoxtalicious

Greedy Partner

PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:18 am


20 pts. in the old codex.
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