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 Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:23 pm
Lazarus The Resurected My point is simple. being the way i am naturaly i have never realy though much of the bible. From as early on as i can remember when told "don't do that." my imedaite responce was "why not?" the bible has not given a good anser. "God says so" is not an answer it is rhetoric. i still don't know whether to believe the whole bible , or even any of it. i live by the fundamentals of christianity. God exists and becasue of him we exist. Jesus of Nazareth was the son of God. Love thy neighbour. Let he who is without sin... . the way i see it these are incorruptable truths. God has spoken to me. his first words that i can remember hearing were "I am here" so i know the Big Guy is real. as a concequence i believe Jesus is real. I know he is the son of God because with his name through prayer i have seen amazing things. and the other two were things i believed before God woke me up. i never trusted authority. especialy organized religion. the sole purpose of the institution i will collectively call "the Church" has been to keep it's self going (and money coming in) they control through fear and rhetoric. God teaches through love. and he has not once Yelled "HEY! YOU'RE NOT MARRIED TO HER! SO STOP THAT!" while i was making love to someone. Had he done so i would refrain from sexual activity. so, in short can any one offer me a good reason to stop having sex? I think "because God said so" is a fabulous reason to do something (or stop doing something), but I understand your doubt for the bible and organized religion completely. Certainely you know that God speaks to us all directly in ways that we can comprehend, so all I have to offer is this: pray that God will speak to you directly about weather or not it is sin to indulge in premarital sex. Pray that God will let you know clearly that it is/isn't wrong, but remember, it is crucial that you are willing to accept either answer or else your own opinions will cloud God's words, maybe blocking them out completely. Remeber also to be persistent in prayer. Remember how much your father loves you, and do try to please him as best you can, huh? I wish you the best of luck in getting to know God's will for you.
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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:13 pm
Demon princess of Love Lazarus The Resurected My point is simple. being the way i am naturaly i have never realy though much of the bible. From as early on as i can remember when told "don't do that." my imedaite responce was "why not?" the bible has not given a good anser. "God says so" is not an answer it is rhetoric. i still don't know whether to believe the whole bible , or even any of it. i live by the fundamentals of christianity. God exists and becasue of him we exist. Jesus of Nazareth was the son of God. Love thy neighbour. Let he who is without sin... . the way i see it these are incorruptable truths. God has spoken to me. his first words that i can remember hearing were "I am here" so i know the Big Guy is real. as a concequence i believe Jesus is real. I know he is the son of God because with his name through prayer i have seen amazing things. and the other two were things i believed before God woke me up. i never trusted authority. especialy organized religion. the sole purpose of the institution i will collectively call "the Church" has been to keep it's self going (and money coming in) they control through fear and rhetoric. God teaches through love. and he has not once Yelled "HEY! YOU'RE NOT MARRIED TO HER! SO STOP THAT!" while i was making love to someone. Had he done so i would refrain from sexual activity. so, in short can any one offer me a good reason to stop having sex? I think "because God said so" is a fabulous reason to do something (or stop doing something), but I understand your doubt for the bible and organized religion completely. Certainely you know that God speaks to us all directly in ways that we can comprehend, so all I have to offer is this: pray that God will speak to you directly about weather or not it is sin to indulge in premarital sex. Pray that God will let you know clearly that it is/isn't wrong, but remember, it is crucial that you are willing to accept either answer or else your own opinions will cloud God's words, maybe blocking them out completely. Remeber also to be persistent in prayer. Remember how much your father loves you, and do try to please him as best you can, huh? I wish you the best of luck in getting to know God's will for you. I agree. These next two prayers will bring you different answers: 1.- "Dear God... having premarital sex isn't really bad, is it? I knew I was right. Thanks God!! *goes and has sex*" 2.- "Dear God... I've been told many times that premarital sex is not good... please guide me, and reveal to me the truth about it.*waits until God answers*" I think you need to aim for number two.
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:57 pm
Victum Soul Demon princess of Love Lazarus The Resurected My point is simple. being the way i am naturaly i have never realy though much of the bible. From as early on as i can remember when told "don't do that." my imedaite responce was "why not?" the bible has not given a good anser. "God says so" is not an answer it is rhetoric. i still don't know whether to believe the whole bible , or even any of it. i live by the fundamentals of christianity. God exists and becasue of him we exist. Jesus of Nazareth was the son of God. Love thy neighbour. Let he who is without sin... . the way i see it these are incorruptable truths. God has spoken to me. his first words that i can remember hearing were "I am here" so i know the Big Guy is real. as a concequence i believe Jesus is real. I know he is the son of God because with his name through prayer i have seen amazing things. and the other two were things i believed before God woke me up. i never trusted authority. especialy organized religion. the sole purpose of the institution i will collectively call "the Church" has been to keep it's self going (and money coming in) they control through fear and rhetoric. God teaches through love. and he has not once Yelled "HEY! YOU'RE NOT MARRIED TO HER! SO STOP THAT!" while i was making love to someone. Had he done so i would refrain from sexual activity. so, in short can any one offer me a good reason to stop having sex? I think "because God said so" is a fabulous reason to do something (or stop doing something), but I understand your doubt for the bible and organized religion completely. Certainely you know that God speaks to us all directly in ways that we can comprehend, so all I have to offer is this: pray that God will speak to you directly about weather or not it is sin to indulge in premarital sex. Pray that God will let you know clearly that it is/isn't wrong, but remember, it is crucial that you are willing to accept either answer or else your own opinions will cloud God's words, maybe blocking them out completely. Remeber also to be persistent in prayer. Remember how much your father loves you, and do try to please him as best you can, huh? I wish you the best of luck in getting to know God's will for you. I agree. These next two prayers will bring you different answers: 1.- "Dear God... having premarital sex isn't really bad, is it? I knew I was right. Thanks God!! *goes and has sex*" 2.- "Dear God... I've been told many times that premarital sex is not good... please guide me, and reveal to me the truth about it.*waits until God answers*" I think you need to aim for number two. And sit arround waiting for god to answer until you are maried anyway? yeah that makes just as much sence as option one.
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Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:30 pm
Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul Demon princess of Love Lazarus The Resurected My point is simple. being the way i am naturaly i have never realy though much of the bible. From as early on as i can remember when told "don't do that." my imedaite responce was "why not?" the bible has not given a good anser. "God says so" is not an answer it is rhetoric. i still don't know whether to believe the whole bible , or even any of it. i live by the fundamentals of christianity. God exists and becasue of him we exist. Jesus of Nazareth was the son of God. Love thy neighbour. Let he who is without sin... . the way i see it these are incorruptable truths. God has spoken to me. his first words that i can remember hearing were "I am here" so i know the Big Guy is real. as a concequence i believe Jesus is real. I know he is the son of God because with his name through prayer i have seen amazing things. and the other two were things i believed before God woke me up. i never trusted authority. especialy organized religion. the sole purpose of the institution i will collectively call "the Church" has been to keep it's self going (and money coming in) they control through fear and rhetoric. God teaches through love. and he has not once Yelled "HEY! YOU'RE NOT MARRIED TO HER! SO STOP THAT!" while i was making love to someone. Had he done so i would refrain from sexual activity. so, in short can any one offer me a good reason to stop having sex? I think "because God said so" is a fabulous reason to do something (or stop doing something), but I understand your doubt for the bible and organized religion completely. Certainely you know that God speaks to us all directly in ways that we can comprehend, so all I have to offer is this: pray that God will speak to you directly about weather or not it is sin to indulge in premarital sex. Pray that God will let you know clearly that it is/isn't wrong, but remember, it is crucial that you are willing to accept either answer or else your own opinions will cloud God's words, maybe blocking them out completely. Remeber also to be persistent in prayer. Remember how much your father loves you, and do try to please him as best you can, huh? I wish you the best of luck in getting to know God's will for you. I agree. These next two prayers will bring you different answers: 1.- "Dear God... having premarital sex isn't really bad, is it? I knew I was right. Thanks God!! *goes and has sex*" 2.- "Dear God... I've been told many times that premarital sex is not good... please guide me, and reveal to me the truth about it.*waits until God answers*" I think you need to aim for number two. And sit arround waiting for god to answer until you are maried anyway? yeah that makes just as much sence as option one. That's what Jesus would have done. Like it or not. Plus: If you stick with number one, you're actually doing your own will. If you stick with option number you're waiting for God's will to be revealed to you, which is what His children are supposed to do. Once you ignore your own opinion it's actually easier to listen to God's.
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:41 pm
Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul Demon princess of Love Lazarus The Resurected My point is simple. being the way i am naturaly i have never realy though much of the bible. From as early on as i can remember when told "don't do that." my imedaite responce was "why not?" the bible has not given a good anser. "God says so" is not an answer it is rhetoric. i still don't know whether to believe the whole bible , or even any of it. i live by the fundamentals of christianity. God exists and becasue of him we exist. Jesus of Nazareth was the son of God. Love thy neighbour. Let he who is without sin... . the way i see it these are incorruptable truths. God has spoken to me. his first words that i can remember hearing were "I am here" so i know the Big Guy is real. as a concequence i believe Jesus is real. I know he is the son of God because with his name through prayer i have seen amazing things. and the other two were things i believed before God woke me up. i never trusted authority. especialy organized religion. the sole purpose of the institution i will collectively call "the Church" has been to keep it's self going (and money coming in) they control through fear and rhetoric. God teaches through love. and he has not once Yelled "HEY! YOU'RE NOT MARRIED TO HER! SO STOP THAT!" while i was making love to someone. Had he done so i would refrain from sexual activity. so, in short can any one offer me a good reason to stop having sex? I think "because God said so" is a fabulous reason to do something (or stop doing something), but I understand your doubt for the bible and organized religion completely. Certainely you know that God speaks to us all directly in ways that we can comprehend, so all I have to offer is this: pray that God will speak to you directly about weather or not it is sin to indulge in premarital sex. Pray that God will let you know clearly that it is/isn't wrong, but remember, it is crucial that you are willing to accept either answer or else your own opinions will cloud God's words, maybe blocking them out completely. Remeber also to be persistent in prayer. Remember how much your father loves you, and do try to please him as best you can, huh? I wish you the best of luck in getting to know God's will for you. I agree. These next two prayers will bring you different answers: 1.- "Dear God... having premarital sex isn't really bad, is it? I knew I was right. Thanks God!! *goes and has sex*" 2.- "Dear God... I've been told many times that premarital sex is not good... please guide me, and reveal to me the truth about it.*waits until God answers*" I think you need to aim for number two. And sit arround waiting for god to answer until you are maried anyway? yeah that makes just as much sence as option one. That's what Jesus would have done. Like it or not. Plus: If you stick with number one, you're actually doing your own will. If you stick with option number you're waiting for God's will to be revealed to you, which is what His children are supposed to do. Once you ignore your own opinion it's actually easier to listen to God's. I don't mean necessarily to stop (although I personally think you should), but just make sure you are not ignoring God meanwhile. And keep an open mind! Don't change, just be willing to.
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:32 pm
Demon princess of Love Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul Demon princess of Love Lazarus The Resurected My point is simple. being the way i am naturaly i have never realy though much of the bible. From as early on as i can remember when told "don't do that." my imedaite responce was "why not?" the bible has not given a good anser. "God says so" is not an answer it is rhetoric. i still don't know whether to believe the whole bible , or even any of it. i live by the fundamentals of christianity. God exists and becasue of him we exist. Jesus of Nazareth was the son of God. Love thy neighbour. Let he who is without sin... . the way i see it these are incorruptable truths. God has spoken to me. his first words that i can remember hearing were "I am here" so i know the Big Guy is real. as a concequence i believe Jesus is real. I know he is the son of God because with his name through prayer i have seen amazing things. and the other two were things i believed before God woke me up. i never trusted authority. especialy organized religion. the sole purpose of the institution i will collectively call "the Church" has been to keep it's self going (and money coming in) they control through fear and rhetoric. God teaches through love. and he has not once Yelled "HEY! YOU'RE NOT MARRIED TO HER! SO STOP THAT!" while i was making love to someone. Had he done so i would refrain from sexual activity. so, in short can any one offer me a good reason to stop having sex? I think "because God said so" is a fabulous reason to do something (or stop doing something), but I understand your doubt for the bible and organized religion completely. Certainely you know that God speaks to us all directly in ways that we can comprehend, so all I have to offer is this: pray that God will speak to you directly about weather or not it is sin to indulge in premarital sex. Pray that God will let you know clearly that it is/isn't wrong, but remember, it is crucial that you are willing to accept either answer or else your own opinions will cloud God's words, maybe blocking them out completely. Remeber also to be persistent in prayer. Remember how much your father loves you, and do try to please him as best you can, huh? I wish you the best of luck in getting to know God's will for you. I agree. These next two prayers will bring you different answers: 1.- "Dear God... having premarital sex isn't really bad, is it? I knew I was right. Thanks God!! *goes and has sex*" 2.- "Dear God... I've been told many times that premarital sex is not good... please guide me, and reveal to me the truth about it.*waits until God answers*" I think you need to aim for number two. And sit arround waiting for god to answer until you are maried anyway? yeah that makes just as much sence as option one. That's what Jesus would have done. Like it or not. Plus: If you stick with number one, you're actually doing your own will. If you stick with option number you're waiting for God's will to be revealed to you, which is what His children are supposed to do. Once you ignore your own opinion it's actually easier to listen to God's. I don't mean necessarily to stop (although I personally think you should), but just make sure you are not ignoring God meanwhile. And keep an open mind! Don't change, just be willing to. You know me. not just as some online handle but as the man i am. how often have you ever known me not to be willing to try? my flaw is that i don't see why i should try. however i'll take a shot at it for you. wink
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Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:52 pm
Lazarus The Resurected Demon princess of Love Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul I agree. These next two prayers will bring you different answers: 1.- "Dear God... having premarital sex isn't really bad, is it? I knew I was right. Thanks God!! *goes and has sex*" 2.- "Dear God... I've been told many times that premarital sex is not good... please guide me, and reveal to me the truth about it.*waits until God answers*" I think you need to aim for number two. And sit arround waiting for god to answer until you are maried anyway? yeah that makes just as much sence as option one. That's what Jesus would have done. Like it or not. Plus: If you stick with number one, you're actually doing your own will. If you stick with option number you're waiting for God's will to be revealed to you, which is what His children are supposed to do. Once you ignore your own opinion it's actually easier to listen to God's. I don't mean necessarily to stop (although I personally think you should), but just make sure you are not ignoring God meanwhile. And keep an open mind! Don't change, just be willing to. You know me. not just as some online handle but as the man i am. how often have you ever known me not to be willing to try? my flaw is that i don't see why i should try. however i'll take a shot at it for you. wink this is the thing I hear the most among young and head strong christians, you are saying that you know that god made the universe, but you don't think he can keep his word true?
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Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2007 8:21 am
Linkg Lazarus The Resurected Demon princess of Love Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul I agree. These next two prayers will bring you different answers: 1.- "Dear God... having premarital sex isn't really bad, is it? I knew I was right. Thanks God!! *goes and has sex*" 2.- "Dear God... I've been told many times that premarital sex is not good... please guide me, and reveal to me the truth about it.*waits until God answers*" I think you need to aim for number two. And sit arround waiting for god to answer until you are maried anyway? yeah that makes just as much sence as option one. That's what Jesus would have done. Like it or not. Plus: If you stick with number one, you're actually doing your own will. If you stick with option number you're waiting for God's will to be revealed to you, which is what His children are supposed to do. Once you ignore your own opinion it's actually easier to listen to God's. I don't mean necessarily to stop (although I personally think you should), but just make sure you are not ignoring God meanwhile. And keep an open mind! Don't change, just be willing to. You know me. not just as some online handle but as the man i am. how often have you ever known me not to be willing to try? my flaw is that i don't see why i should try. however i'll take a shot at it for you. wink this is the thing I hear the most among young and head strong christians, you are saying that you know that god made the universe, but you don't think he can keep his word true? actualy yeah. one of the drawbacks to being uintangible is that you have no real say in the editorial process. besides that man can choose to ignore God even when he's dictating his memoirs.
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:44 pm
I definantly think people should wait untill marriage i mean i wanna get laid as much as the next thirteen year old but its still wrong; most people give all these wild answeres that are super complicated answers but i think the main reason is that God said its wrong and as God's children we have a standerd to uphold and i know im plobaably sounding like a preacher but still
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Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:34 pm
I'd rather wait till marriage. It just seems like sex would be more meaningful if you had it with someone you plan to spend your whole life with.
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:38 pm
IrelandGunner I'd rather wait till marriage. It just seems like sex would be more meaningful if you had it with someone you plan to spend your whole life with. maybe it would. but no matter how natural and perfect you think it will be, even with someone you love, it's going to be awkward and painfull and probably not enjoyable. on the other hand i have the experiance nessisary to handle the delicate situation that is virginity with maturity and understanding. although yeah prematrital can tear your heart and soul appart. so it's 50/50.
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:33 pm
Lazarus The Resurected IrelandGunner I'd rather wait till marriage. It just seems like sex would be more meaningful if you had it with someone you plan to spend your whole life with. maybe it would. but no matter how natural and perfect you think it will be, even with someone you love, it's going to be awkward and painfull and probably not enjoyable. on the other hand i have the experiance nessisary to handle the delicate situation that is virginity with maturity and understanding. although yeah prematrital can tear your heart and soul appart. so it's 50/50. wow, exactly, we finally agree in something. The only difference is that I think a christian should take the 'not doing it 50' and you think different.
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 5:57 pm
Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected IrelandGunner I'd rather wait till marriage. It just seems like sex would be more meaningful if you had it with someone you plan to spend your whole life with. maybe it would. but no matter how natural and perfect you think it will be, even with someone you love, it's going to be awkward and painfull and probably not enjoyable. on the other hand i have the experiance nessisary to handle the delicate situation that is virginity with maturity and understanding. although yeah prematrital can tear your heart and soul appart. so it's 50/50. wow, exactly, we finally agree in something. The only difference is that I think a christian should take the 'not doing it 50' and you think different. I never said that a christian shouldn't take the not do it 50% it's just that it's too late for me. i've already crossed that bridge, the problem is that once crossed the bridge is burned and you can never get back accross.
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Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 10:49 pm
Lazarus The Resurected Victum Soul Lazarus The Resurected IrelandGunner I'd rather wait till marriage. It just seems like sex would be more meaningful if you had it with someone you plan to spend your whole life with. maybe it would. but no matter how natural and perfect you think it will be, even with someone you love, it's going to be awkward and painfull and probably not enjoyable. on the other hand i have the experiance nessisary to handle the delicate situation that is virginity with maturity and understanding. although yeah prematrital can tear your heart and soul appart. so it's 50/50. wow, exactly, we finally agree in something. The only difference is that I think a christian should take the 'not doing it 50' and you think different. I never said that a christian shouldn't take the not do it 50% it's just that it's too late for me. i've already crossed that bridge, the problem is that once crossed the bridge is burned and you can never get back accross. at least not physically 3nodding
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