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frigate

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:40 pm


Looking through the guild forums most of you seem like you're not used to a more competitive field of play. So i just want to help out a little.
Tips:
1. Use a deck size of 40 or 41
2. Don't use normal monsters unless your deck is strictly based on it
3. SYNERGY
4. Test Test Test your deck
5. Make sure your deck has a theme
6. Don't use cards that doesn't fit the theme or doesn't work well
7. Innovate, this doesn't only mean to be creative. It means to make a creative deck that works well and can survive the meta. Innovative decks can be tech decks or just out of the ordinary themes.

Cards that are commonly used but not used by pros:
1. Magic Cylinder
This card imo is VERY VERY bad. Most people (like myself) run sakuretsu instead of this card. Because
Destroying > Doing damage

Here's one of my decks:
2|Sod|Mobius the Frost Monarch
2|Mrd|Dream Clown
2|Een|Elemental Hero Wildheart
2|Tp7|D.D. Warrior
2|Tp4|Giant Rat
1|Lod|Exiled Force
1|Sd5|D.D. Warrior Lady
1|Mrd|Sangan
1|Sod|Mystic Swordsman LV2
1|Lod|Injection Fairy Lily
1|Mrd|Magician of Faith
3|Mrl|Nimble Momonga
3|Ioc|Smashing Ground
1|Sye|Dark Hole
1|Psv|Nobleman of Crossout
1|Mrd|Heavy Storm
1|Mrl|Mystical Space Typhoon
2|Lod|Reinforcement of the Army
1|Psv|Premature Burial
1|Mrl|Snatch Steal
1|Lon|Torrential Tribute
1|Psv|Call Of The Haunted
3|Dcr|Sakuretsu Armor
2|Psv|Gravity Bind
1|Een|Pot of Avarice
2|Sd5|Blast with Chain
It's based loosely on gravity bind + elemental hero wildheart
Dream clown is extra tech, i don't want to show my sidedeck. Anyone that want's help or just wants to duel via yvd just pm me.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:28 pm


frigate
Looking through the guild forums most of you seem like you're not used to a more competitive field of play. So i just want to help out a little.
Tips:
1. Use a deck size of 40 or 41
2. Don't use normal monsters unless your deck is strictly based on it
3. SYNERGY
4. Test Test Test your deck
5. Make sure your deck has a theme
6. Don't use cards that doesn't fit the theme or doesn't work well
7. Innovate, this doesn't only mean to be creative. It means to make a creative deck that works well and can survive the meta. Innovative decks can be tech decks or just out of the ordinary themes.

Cards that are commonly used but not used by pros:
1. Magic Cylinder
This card imo is VERY VERY bad. Most people (like myself) run sakuretsu instead of this card. Because
Destroying > Doing damage

Here's one of my decks:
2|Sod|Mobius the Frost Monarch
2|Mrd|Dream Clown
2|Een|Elemental Hero Wildheart
2|Tp7|D.D. Warrior
2|Tp4|Giant Rat
1|Lod|Exiled Force
1|Sd5|D.D. Warrior Lady
1|Mrd|Sangan
1|Sod|Mystic Swordsman LV2
1|Lod|Injection Fairy Lily
1|Mrd|Magician of Faith
3|Mrl|Nimble Momonga
3|Ioc|Smashing Ground
1|Sye|Dark Hole
1|Psv|Nobleman of Crossout
1|Mrd|Heavy Storm
1|Mrl|Mystical Space Typhoon
2|Lod|Reinforcement of the Army
1|Psv|Premature Burial
1|Mrl|Snatch Steal
1|Lon|Torrential Tribute
1|Psv|Call Of The Haunted
3|Dcr|Sakuretsu Armor
2|Psv|Gravity Bind
1|Een|Pot of Avarice
2|Sd5|Blast with Chain
It's based loosely on gravity bind + elemental hero wildheart
Dream clown is extra tech, i don't want to show my sidedeck. Anyone that want's help or just wants to duel via yvd just pm me.

Okay, it may be a good thing not to use normal monsters, but it's also a very bad thing in my opinion. Some of the most strongest monsters are normal monsters. There is one card that I own that can stop your Sakuretsu Armor, or at least one that I own and like to use. Some of the best duelist that I've played against have more than 40 or 41 cards. In fact, it's better to have between 40-50 cards. I don't mean to be rude or anything, that's just my opinion.

Kotaro_Saranoska


frigate

PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:35 pm


it's all good, but what cards are you talking about that can stop sakuretsu? I know many can, but if it can stop sakuretsu it can probably also stop magical cylinder. Even though some of the strongest monsters are normal monsters that doesn't mean it'll work well with your deck, but that's just my opinion.
Imo, normal monsters work well in decks w/skill train or non spellcasting whatever. OR 7 colored fish with water decks, luster dragon in dragon decks, etc.
Also THE best duelists in the world, (national champions i.e max, regionals winners, SJC top 8s, german nationals, canadian nationals, etc.) All have used 40/41 cards. It's better that way to draw cards that you want.
But you know all my opinion and it's just an inteligent conversation.

another tip to people is:
Don't use really long comboes in your deck that will barely ever work. Yes putting those cards next to eachother is considered cheating and is deck stacking...
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:21 am


frigate
it's all good, but what cards are you talking about that can stop sakuretsu? I know many can, but if it can stop sakuretsu it can probably also stop magical cylinder. Even though some of the strongest monsters are normal monsters that doesn't mean it'll work well with your deck, but that's just my opinion.
Imo, normal monsters work well in decks w/skill train or non spellcasting whatever. OR 7 colored fish with water decks, luster dragon in dragon decks, etc.
Also THE best duelists in the world, (national champions i.e max, regionals winners, SJC top 8s, german nationals, canadian nationals, etc.) All have used 40/41 cards. It's better that way to draw cards that you want.
But you know all my opinion and it's just an inteligent conversation.

another tip to people is:
Don't use really long comboes in your deck that will barely ever work. Yes putting those cards next to eachother is considered cheating and is deck stacking...


I agree with not using long combos. Like I said in another forum, I haven't been to a tournament. I don't read much about them either. I just know some of the top people in my area use more then 41 cards. It is good to have close to 40 cards, but it is also good to have no more than 50 cards. My gf older brother uses 48 cards in his deck and I haven't found a person to beat him( I might duel him again, last time he cheated against me, that was when I was new to dueling). Now, the cards I have is Imperial order, Sorcerer of Dark Magic( the only monster I use to negate trap cards), and I can't remember the other one I have( it's one of the ones I don't use that much). The reason I argue about normal monsters and effect monsters is because some of the effect monsters need the normal monsters in order to use their effects. Look at "Agent of Creation-Venus", that card's effect allows you to summon one "Mystic Shine Ball" to the field from your hand or deck. "Mystic Shine Ball" is a normal monster. "Valkyrion The Magna Warrior" needs "Alpha the Magnet Warrior," "Beta The Magnet Warrior," and "Gamma The Magnet Warrior" in order for both of its effects. Also, in order to summon a "Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon," you need at least 2 "Blue-Eyes White Dragon"( I say at least two because you can use any of hex-sealed fusions to sub for one "Blue-Eyes White Dragon"). But, your right, this is an intellegent conversation. This is the most I've ever written( posting my deck doesn't count).

Here's a tip for anyone, don't get cocky and think that your invincible. Someone will just come by one day and crush you( I say that because someone that duels in my school says he's gonna stop dueling because no one can beat him and he says that he's dueled everyone in West Virginia and no one has beaten him, he hasn't dueled my gf yet, I know she can beat him, she's my sensei in dueling). Someone else said that they were gonna quit because no one can beat them, until I brought my cards and crushed him with a perfect win( I still had 8000LP and he didn't do a single bit of damage to me). I'm also talking from experience, I use to boast that I couldn't be beaten until my pupil( my best friend, who I was teaching how to duel) beat me.

Kotaro_Saranoska


Crono Leonhart
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 11:32 am


Always think of the concequences of making a move
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 2:19 pm


Both of you have posted good tips. Cockiness gets you into trouble, and not thinking things out makes you lose. smile

frigate


Kotaro_Saranoska

PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:38 am


I learned that the hard way. My gf kicked my butt several times because I didn't think things through (back then, she wasn't my gf). I also learned that I shouldn't show mercy on my opponents if they think they can beat me in a few turns.

Hey, does anyone around your area play the non-tribute rule (a.k.a. Duelist Kingdom style)?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:43 pm


Seems like good advice all around in here. Here's one thing I add:

If you have a deck that's based on a certain card or combo, make sure you have a viable plan B in case it doesn't work out.

For example, my quick summon BEWD deck is all about getting Blue Eyes onto the field and either tributing him for a Great Maju Garzet or using him to whomp on the opponent.

However, if my opponent blocks me from summoning the Blue Eyes, I have Jinzo, Dark Ruler HaDes, Spear Dragons, and a slew of other monsters to finish the job.

As Q once said, "Always have an escape plan."

Cid Descart


Cid Descart

PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:46 pm


That brings something else to mind:

Don't be so focused on your strategy that you miss other opportunities.

For example, I've played people who were SO focused on summoning Exodia that they missed several good opportunities to do damage to my lifepoints. For example, using Monster Reborn on their Sangan instead of my BEWD when I had no cards on the field.

Keep an open mind. There's more than one way to win a duel.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:12 am


I agree with both of your tips. This one kid who keeps challenging me each morning has a deck based mainly on getting his BEUD to the field, but the deck mainly has dragons in it and he keeps forgetting about my Buster Blader. I beat him yesterday morning with a Buster Blader at over 9000 atk points due to BB's special ability.

Kotaro_Saranoska


frigate

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 2:56 pm


This is a common phrase used among duelists which originated from a well known clan/team of internet duelists (i think it was from ao or genesis) Both are highly respected clans. Ao having Max Suffridge the U.S.'s representative that was sent to japan for worlds.

"Innovate don't Immitate"
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:19 pm


frigate
This is a common phrase used among duelists which originated from a well known clan/team of internet duelists (i think it was from ao or genesis) Both are highly respected clans. Ao having Max Suffridge the U.S.'s representative that was sent to japan for worlds.

"Innovate don't Immitate"
Hah n_n; I havent heard of either of them, But yes, thats true 3nodding

Crono Leonhart
Vice Captain


frigate

PostPosted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:28 pm


Here's another tip:
NEVER make transactions online with Toywiz. They have a very bad history with yugioh buyers and they rip people off.
if you would ever like to buy cards online i recommend buying them from:
www.mikeloda.safeshopper.com
www.ideal808.com
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:20 am


frigate
Here's another tip:
NEVER make transactions online with Toywiz. They have a very bad history with yugioh buyers and they rip people off.
if you would ever like to buy cards online i recommend buying them from:
www.mikeloda.safeshopper.com
www.ideal808.com
My gf's older brother said that www.cardhaus.com is a good website to get cards off of. Have you ever been there?

Kotaro_Saranoska


frigate

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:07 pm


i've heard of it and im pretty sure it has gotten good reviews, but i've never used it so i can't say too much.
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