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The Ginger Dude

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:29 pm


This is my first post on here( decided to be productive), but i want to show you a small story i found in an old journal of mine, wrote this about two years ago and showed it to a few friends that have their own beliefs and they said it was interesting, so reply if you want, i'll take negative comments, it makes sense if you have the patience so here i go " Is Life truly a justified answer for everything we do?, is there any being out there that creates us for the enjoyment and annoyance of pain, joy, and death and a sense of justice? Are there people like me who are truly bored of this material world with the usual hearings of death, war, money, education, propanganda and government, and how all are linked together ? Maybe, Maybe Not, but the world's perpetiual boredom, tiring of things that happened milennas ago that still drag on today. Many are useless, inconceiable acts of hopes that people with power promise to the citizens that live in a false world, Now Power is a tricky word, much more than a word, much less than being obsessed, many, if not all beings crave power for a good cause or a bad one, some do it just to survive for whatever life destiny brought them to, some to bulid a cicilization or a place of comfort for themselves or others, some to become a false god, to have all of it and using it on religion, wanting people to believe their god is using them as a martyer to praise them of their deeds." That's just a small section of more so reply want you want.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:40 pm


The Ginger Dude
This is my first post on here( decided to be productive), but i want to show you a small story i found in an old journal of mine, wrote this about two years ago and showed it to a few friends that have their own beliefs and they said it was interesting, so reply if you want, i'll take negative comments, it makes sense if you have the patience so here i go " Is Life truly a justified answer for everything we do?, is there any being out there that creates us for the enjoyment and annoyance of pain, joy, and death and a sense of justice? Are there people like me who are truly bored of this material world with the usual hearings of death, war, money, education, propanganda and government, and how all are linked together ? Maybe, Maybe Not, but the world's perpetiual boredom, tiring of things that happened milennas ago that still drag on today. Many are useless, inconceiable acts of hopes that people with power promise to the citizens that live in a false world, Now Power is a tricky word, much more than a word, much less than being obsessed, many, if not all beings crave power for a good cause or a bad one, some do it just to survive for whatever life destiny brought them to, some to bulid a cicilization or a place of comfort for themselves or others, some to become a false god, to have all of it and using it on religion, wanting people to believe their god is using them as a martyer to praise them of their deeds." That's just a small section of more so reply want you want.

Methinks you're trying too hard to be emo.

Lumanny the Space Jew

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Falsequivalence

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:03 pm


Ginger...
I think the world isn't boring in the slightest. There will forever be more stupid people stabbing and killin others. Maybe repetitive, but not boring. And people not agreeing with others will always cause more problems.

@ The Space Jew...
If he is trying to be emo, he doesn't deserve the title. I'm considered emo, (Though I deny it.) and I don't try at all. And it could have just been that he was having those thoughts anyway.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:07 pm


Way to copy William Ernest Henley, Penguin. rolleyes

Shiori Miko


Falsequivalence

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:09 pm


Who's William Ernest Henley?
Please tell me.
I have no idea.
How did I copy him?
If it's the title...
It's just Latin.
If it's the poem itself, I didn't know of any poem like it.
And I'll remove it. If need be.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:16 pm


Invictus by William Ernest Henley in 1875

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds and shall find me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.

Your "original" poem is practically the same thing he wrote. Nice try.

Shiori Miko


Falsequivalence

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:21 pm


Really? sweatdrop
I should remove it then.
Tell the guy i'm sorry for doing something he had already done.
But the title was because I thought it was fitting.
I thought about infragilis, which means unbreakable.
(yes, I'm in latin. That's how I know these words.)
Is the poem just fine? Or just the title?
Do you want me to remove all of it?
Really, the first and third are extremely different.
The second and fourth are practically the same, or at least have the same meaning.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:27 pm


The poem was written in 1875. Due to the fact the man had a leg cut off and tuberculosis, I'm gonna guess he's dead by now.

And your stanzas almost the exact same thing as his. stare

His Yours

OUT of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.


I must thank my gods,
For removing this dark veil that blinds us,
And for making my heart and soul unbreakable...


In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.


Despite my pain, I still haven't showed it.
Even after these beatings,
I still haven't submitted, as I never shall...


Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds and shall find me unafraid.


Even through this pain, I still have more ahead.
Despite this acknowledgement,
I still remain unafraid...


It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.


It doesn't matter the path I take,
Nor how many punishments I face,
I control my own life,
And commandeer my own fate.

Shiori Miko


Falsequivalence

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:35 pm


There. I removed it. Happy now? Argh... now I have to make a new poem... oh well. It will probably be named infragilis. smile
But I honestly didn't know who William Ernest Henry (That's his name, right?) was. I can't BELIEVE that I made a poem so similar to his. Especially with the same name. Lol.
But I'll post that poem up too.
Later.
It's gonna be funny when it's similar to someone elses poem too.
Lol.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:38 pm


Right, I'm so sure. rolleyes

Shiori Miko


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:43 pm


Broken_Penguin_Man
There. I removed it. Happy now? Argh... now I have to make a new poem... oh well. It will probably be named infragilis. smile
But I honestly didn't know who William Ernest Henry (That's his name, right?) was. I can't BELIEVE that I made a poem so similar to his. Especially with the same name. Lol.
But I'll post that poem up too.
Later.
It's gonna be funny when it's similar to someone elses poem too.
Lol.

Actually, that's really cool. I thought Henley's poem inspired yours at first. xd
And Shiori, what would be the point of him copying Henley's poem? It wouldn't be worth it, especially to be found out. Give him the benefit of the doubt.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 6:47 pm


Why thank you Blue.

Falsequivalence


Shiori Miko

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:01 pm


xxEternallyBluexx
Broken_Penguin_Man
There. I removed it. Happy now? Argh... now I have to make a new poem... oh well. It will probably be named infragilis. smile
But I honestly didn't know who William Ernest Henry (That's his name, right?) was. I can't BELIEVE that I made a poem so similar to his. Especially with the same name. Lol.
But I'll post that poem up too.
Later.
It's gonna be funny when it's similar to someone elses poem too.
Lol.

Actually, that's really cool. I thought Henry's poem inspired yours at first. xd
And Shiori, what would be the point of him copying Henry's poem? It wouldn't be worth it, especially to be found out. Give him the benefit of the doubt.

Give him the benefit of the doubt when his poem is a bastardized version of Henley's? Stanzas exactly the same, only a few words switched around? I know what plagarism looks like. It looks like that.

And his "that's his name right?" when he could've easily looked at my post to find the proper spelling makes me think he was trying to cover his a**. If he just admitted it, I would've been nicer.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:06 pm


Shiori Miko
xxEternallyBluexx
Broken_Penguin_Man
There. I removed it. Happy now? Argh... now I have to make a new poem... oh well. It will probably be named infragilis. smile
But I honestly didn't know who William Ernest Henry (That's his name, right?) was. I can't BELIEVE that I made a poem so similar to his. Especially with the same name. Lol.
But I'll post that poem up too.
Later.
It's gonna be funny when it's similar to someone elses poem too.
Lol.

Actually, that's really cool. I thought Henry's poem inspired yours at first. xd
And Shiori, what would be the point of him copying Henry's poem? It wouldn't be worth it, especially to be found out. Give him the benefit of the doubt.

Give him the benefit of the doubt when his poem is a bastardized version of Henley's? Stanzas exactly the same, only a few words switched around? I know what plagarism looks like. It looks like that.

And his "that's his name right?" when he could've easily looked at my post to find the proper spelling makes me think he was trying to cover his a**. If he just admitted it, I would've been nicer.


I'm sorry I have the curse of trying to improve my memory instead of be lazy and look at the correct spelling. And his name is very similar to Henry.
(Henley, Henry? Get it now? They even SOUND very similar.)
I wasn't trying to cover my a**. I knew I could have looked down at the correct spelling. I just decided not to and relied on my memory. Is that so bad? Trying to rely on memory?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:09 pm


Shiori Miko
xxEternallyBluexx
Broken_Penguin_Man
There. I removed it. Happy now? Argh... now I have to make a new poem... oh well. It will probably be named infragilis. smile
But I honestly didn't know who William Ernest Henry (That's his name, right?) was. I can't BELIEVE that I made a poem so similar to his. Especially with the same name. Lol.
But I'll post that poem up too.
Later.
It's gonna be funny when it's similar to someone elses poem too.
Lol.

Actually, that's really cool. I thought Henley's poem inspired yours at first. xd
And Shiori, what would be the point of him copying Henley's poem? It wouldn't be worth it, especially to be found out. Give him the benefit of the doubt.

Give him the benefit of the doubt when his poem is a bastardized version of Henley's? Stanzas exactly the same, only a few words switched around? I know what plagarism looks like. It looks like that.

And his "that's his name right?" when he could've easily looked at my post to find the proper spelling makes me think he was trying to cover his a**. If he just admitted it, I would've been nicer.

What if it really was a coincidence? Then you're being unfair. It's better to give someone the benefit of the doubt, because then you haven't gone after someone who didn't deserve it. It's far away enough from the real thing it could just be a coincidence, or it could be he heard the poem, didn't remember it, and subconciously drew inspiration from it. I doubt anyone would do something like that on purpose, and if they did, then it's not worth it to bust someone who's putting so much effort into not being busted. Anyway you spin it, it's best to just leave it and appreciate the coincidence.
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