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 Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:48 am
I have recently discovered when looking over my photos that I find the major bling factor of piercings on a face distracting.
Like on this photo her piercing kinda stands out to me waay too much and its glarey and gaudey. And I don't want to have to make my subjects take their piercings out, but find a way to incorperate it more subtly into the photo.
; (please forgive the scratches, I didn't clean my neg properly redface oh and for referance umm printed on a grade 4 1/2 filter, 2 stops down for like 10 seconds if my memory serves corectly )
So is there any techniques yous could suggest?
Do you find it distracting?
Umm would different lighting help it look less bright or should I try burning the area a lil? (Though that would be hard cause its a smallish area and im not sure doing split filter would help : (
Yeah so help with the whole piercing issue would be good, or would yous just suggest I lika make them take their metal out : ( ?
Heavy crit on the actual photo not really needed : )
Edit : and by 'the actual photo' I mean lika i want help with the more tech side of things rather then composition or sumething.
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:32 pm
hmmm ...I think you should burn in the top left and bottom right (this corner especially) and her right shoulder a little longer......if you re-expose this in the dark room....as far as the actual print is concerned...
do you spot your prints by chance?
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:20 pm
warrior_of_boognish hmmm ...I think you should burn in the top left and bottom right (this corner especially) and her right shoulder a little longer......if you re-expose this in the dark room....as far as the actual print is concerned... do you spot your prints by chance?
Do you mean with spotting pens (like after you have printed to get rid of dust spots)? In that case, sometimes. I mean I try to but im not very skilled at it and I usually end up using the wrong grade pen and making little black patches over the photo redface
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 1:32 pm
yeah...them things...cept I never got a chance to use them fancy pens, I had to use a brush. Oh how annoying that was, never did good spotting with it....
But yeah, if you have problems of choosing the wrong grade pen, go lighter and build on it.....till you have the right tone.
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 4:33 pm
warrior_of_boognish yeah...them things...cept I never got a chance to use them fancy pens, I had to use a brush. Oh how annoying that was, never did good spotting with it.... But yeah, if you have problems of choosing the wrong grade pen, go lighter and build on it.....till you have the right tone.
Good advice. I'll try that next time I need to use one : )
Hopefully though in future i'll clean my negs properly so I dun have to use spotting pens : )
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Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:10 pm
yeah....a 0005 sable tip brush.(had like five strainds of hair on it : [ )...that we used with a bit of ink (I think....its been a while since I had access to a college Photo-lab) and water.....
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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:57 am
warrior_of_boognish yeah....a 0005 sable tip brush.(had like five strainds of hair on it : [ )...that we used with a bit of ink (I think....its been a while since I had access to a college Photo-lab) and water.....
My hands wouldn't be able to hand being that precise.
My hands shake badly on average.
I'm no good at most things that require a lot of attention to small detail.
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Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 7:39 pm
I really like that photo.
Perhaps you could talk your model into putting something on the jewelry to make it less reflective. The only thing i could suggest would be something like Vaseline (not even sure if that would work... hrm).
Having the face more brightly lit would keep the jewelry from popping out so much too.
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:36 am
Aimless I really like that photo. Perhaps you could talk your model into putting something on the jewelry to make it less reflective. The only thing i could suggest would be something like Vaseline (not even sure if that would work... hrm). Having the face more brightly lit would keep the jewelry from popping out so much too. it would make the jewelry brighter.
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:13 am
Plonky the Wondercat Aimless I really like that photo. Perhaps you could talk your model into putting something on the jewelry to make it less reflective. The only thing i could suggest would be something like Vaseline (not even sure if that would work... hrm). Having the face more brightly lit would keep the jewelry from popping out so much too. it would make the jewelry brighter. it would also make the contrast between bright jewelry and face less intense.
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:48 am
I think the photo's great. It's weird that you're printing with a 4 1/2 filter, but thats a whoooole other story. I don't mind the piercing, the photo might be a little boring without it, I think. Nice reflection in the eyes too. Baaaaad! Not keeping your negatives in good condition.
Disclaimer: Hypocrite, hypocrite, hypocrite, hypocrite. I just ruined a roll with a metal reel this week. Look at my sig.
About the shoulder, going to like a 2, 2 1/2 or 3 filter at the max should reduce the contrast on your shoulders, and whatnot. Then again, there might not be any detail to burn and the like. Do you do multi-filter exposures? I'm the worst burner ever, by the way.
Since you put the face on a Zone V-ish, you lost detail on the shoulder, which I think is okay because it makes a nicer transition between the nice tones in the face and the harsh background.
And it makes me soooooooooo happy that you're using film. Like, really happy. D:
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:00 pm
Gardenhead I think the photo's great. It's weird that you're printing with a 4 1/2 filter, but thats a whoooole other story. I don't mind the piercing, the photo might be a little boring without it, I think. Nice reflection in the eyes too. Baaaaad! Not keeping your negatives in good condition. Disclaimer: Hypocrite, hypocrite, hypocrite, hypocrite. I just ruined a roll with a metal reel this week. Look at my sig.About the shoulder, going to like a 2, 2 1/2 or 3 filter at the max should reduce the contrast on your shoulders, and whatnot. Then again, there might not be any detail to burn and the like. Do you do multi-filter exposures? I'm the worst burner ever, by the way. Since you put the face on a Zone V-ish, you lost detail on the shoulder, which I think is okay because it makes a nicer transition between the nice tones in the face and the harsh background. And it makes me soooooooooo happy that you're using film. Like, really happy. D:
Yeah redface I should keep better care, and clean them properly when about to print. I was being a little lazy xD That's no good about you ruining a roll of film : ( But if its any consolation I think the photo in your sig looks kinda cool like that anyways.
Yeah I do multifilter exposures.
But the only one I have really 'learnt' how to do would be exposing the neg with a 4 or 5 filter then taking that out and exposing it again but with a 00 filter for 10% of the time you did with the high grade one.
Would it be a simular sort of proceedure?
Yeah woo ! Film again and not crappy digital camera prints =D Though I really should be taking more photos and finishing up another film which is just sitting in my camera.
I am thinking about asking this really pretty friend of mine to model for me, but I am not sure how I go about asking her redface Like would I say 'would you mind posing for the purpose of my art' or sumething like that without sounding creepy xD
P.S I can scan in the other two photos I printed on the other filters if you like, but they do look crap and dull xD
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:51 pm
Oh, its okay! I love that print. The contrast is great I like it! Like I said, there probably isn't any detail in the highlights anyway, since you exposed for the face, which was in shadow. It works well in this picture.
The 00 filter is nice for filling in either your highlights or shadows (I forget which one.) I usually do things like that, but its important not to bump the enlarger also.
Say for instance your main exposure is something like 20 seconds with a grade 4. All you do with the 00 filter is expose for 2 seconds, and thats 10 percent. Although 2 seconds is really short for time. =/
As for models, I suck at getting them to take pictures. I have a few friends who like to take pictures, but most of them are too shy. But, it never ever hurts to ask. And if they say no, I sometimes slip it into conversation afterwards. Complain about how you can't take any pictures because you have no models and the like. whee
Its fun sometimes to pressure them to take pictures. Oh, and the sig is a randosiggy.
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 2:57 pm
Gardenhead Baaaaad! Not keeping your negatives in good condition. If the scratches are on the plastic side, i think you can usually use ear wax or nose grease to fill them in for printing. clean the neg, apply bodily substance of choice in a thin layer, and clean with a dry negative tissue. The stuff stays in the grooves and keeps the light from being reflected back. i used to have problems with the school negative carrier scratching my Negs. For burning, try cutting a hole, the size of the peircing in a piece of black cardstock and wiggle it a little (to get rid of obvious burn lines, unless you cut the hole EXACTLY in the shape of the neg, which is...hard.) when you add more exposure. You can protect the rest of the print with the cardstock. That's kinda how i burn everything in my prints, but i'm not really much of an expert. It maybe be a matter of changing your exposure/lighting when you take the photo. I liked darkroom photography...but i dont have a darkroom here. or access to reasonably priced 35mm film. c'est la vie.
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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 10:30 pm
Page Boy Gardenhead Baaaaad! Not keeping your negatives in good condition. If the scratches are on the plastic side, i think you can usually use ear wax or nose grease to fill them in for printing. clean the neg, apply bodily substance of choice in a thin layer, and clean with a dry negative tissue. The stuff stays in the grooves and keeps the light from being reflected back. i used to have problems with the school negative carrier scratching my Negs. For burning, try cutting a hole, the size of the peircing in a piece of black cardstock and wiggle it a little (to get rid of obvious burn lines, unless you cut the hole EXACTLY in the shape of the neg, which is...hard.) when you add more exposure. You can protect the rest of the print with the cardstock. That's kinda how i burn everything in my prints, but i'm not really much of an expert. It maybe be a matter of changing your exposure/lighting when you take the photo. I liked darkroom photography...but i dont have a darkroom here. or access to reasonably priced 35mm film. c'est la vie.
I love being in the darkroom.
My problem is the taking of the actual photographs as I tend to run out of ideas on what pictures to take, and I feel weird and shy about asking my friends to pose and stuff for me. And I also am a little lazy when it comes to taking shots : (
I dropped it as a subject this year because it's a subject that wouldn't count towards my UAI* (because our education system doesn't seem to value anything that isn't math rolleyes ) ( *University Application Index. Like your score in the Higher School Certificate. ) But my teacher said I am free to use the darkroom any time which is good : )
I don't know how ill cope when I leave school and wont have access to one : ( Meybe I can get rich and set up my own one cool xD
P.S Thanks for the tips ^_^ <3
Oh and I think its nose oil your meant to use or something because it soaks into the emmulation of the neg. To my memory anyways.
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