White Supremacy is artificial

[Glenthephilosopher]

Nothing stops black people from succeeding more than being easily influenced by the media's stereotypes, deeper than that when you are easily influenced by inconsiderate people. that's why I only support blacks who are about improving the black community, not being easily persuaded by anger.
The white man isn't going to stop you from being successful, it's your inability to take personal responsibility. that's why I don't buy the them verses us mentality because it's all bullshit. in order to end racism, we must work on presenting ourselves better. we need to respond to each reaction without being easily annoyed by every damn opinion. ‪#‎Maturity‬  

[godsslastgift]

Explain how institutional racism exist then if white supremacy is "artificial"

Youre not wrong in people taking responsibility for their actions and their inevitable outcomes but you cant just dismiss it as being blinded by anger entirely when there has existed for centuries a system of blatant discrimination in most old and modern civilizations.  

[Holly Hocked]

Glenthephilosopher

Nothing stops white people from succeeding more than being easily influenced by the media's stereotypes, deeper than that when you are easily influenced by inconsiderate people. that's why I only support whites who are about improving the white community, not being easily persuaded by anger.
The black man isn't going to stop you from being successful, it's your inability to take personal responsibility. that's why I don't buy the them verses us mentality because it's all bullshit. in order to end racism, we must work on presenting ourselves better. we need to respond to each reaction without being easily annoyed by every damn opinion. ‪#‎Maturity‬

I changed some words around, to perhaps show you how strange you sound.  

[Holly Hocked]

Now here is the thing. If you read the quote of yours I just switched some of the words around in, and you thought "WELL THAT CERTAINLY IS NOT TRUE OF THE WHITES"
Then how the hell would you know about the lives of other people?
If you truly think there is nothing stopping African American people in the US and otherwhere, then would you be alright with being treated EXACTLY like a black man or woman?  

[Holly Hocked]

And this is not to mention the legitimate White Supremacists that do exist.
These people are in our police forces, government positions, and potentially your neighborhood.

Your argument is ignorant and fairly racist.  

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Broken Iron Anvil

And this is not to mention the legitimate White Supremacists that do exist.
These people are in our police forces, government positions, and potentially your neighborhood.

Your argument is ignorant and fairly racist.

Yes yes yes.

In general, if someone says to me, "Hey, you doing this hurts me," it isn't really my place to say, "No, you're wrong and need to stop feeling hurt." It's probably more effective and rational for me to try to understand what I'm doing that hurts them, and why it hurts them. If that's true for individual interactions, it's probably safe to say we can apply similar logic for interactions between groups of people.

Now for the case of Black experiences, we need to be honest about the fact that the civil rights movement only relatively recently ended in history (~196 cool . There are many people still well and alive from and before the movement. Equality, which had been pretty null across races, didn't automatically, magically come to pass overnight across institutions, the media, and other legal/systemic infrastructures.

And because those in power (and I think we can honestly say those are mostly white people) don't believe they will gain anything from making those changes, things generally don't change, beyond maybe the bare minimum. And a couple laws changing in the past few decades is not going to just suddenly rectify all the implications from centuries of slavery. How can it?

For instance, I'm sure you've heard of Rikers Island, a jail complex in NYC. ~80% of people at Rikers are stuck there for years waiting to go to trial - a fair number of whom are likely innocent. And if you don't believe there are any that are innocent, let's at least consider the "innocent until proven guilty" principle, whereby we can probably agree that at the very least, people shouldn't be staying in a jail for years just waiting for trial.

Okay, so then why are they even stuck there? They're too poor to make bail.

And who are these people? Well, at Rikers Island, around 90% detainees are Black or Latino.

Again, this is not to say there aren't guilty people in there - but imagine being an innocent person knowing you did nothing wrong - or maybe you did something wrong, but it was on the minor end like shoplifting or marijuana possession. You know the only way you have a chance of seeking justice or an appropriate sentence is through trial, but that's something you can't really afford. So you just keep waiting, as the system dictates - but the thing is.. you are waiting on a system that wasn't built to really care about cases like you. And the people who have the power to change the system don't, because hey, cases like you are the kind of people the movies/media tell us are thugs, so you ... probably belong there.

And I would wager NYC isn't the only city with stats like these.

Do you know that, in addition to the "birds and the bees" talk parents often have with their kids, many Black parents actually also have to have a talk with their kids on how to navigate encounters with the police? Because they are legitimately afraid - not only that their kids might end up at a place like Rikers, but that their kids could actually get shot for things like wearing a hoodie or holding a toy gun. And this a sadly validated fear, if you look at cases like Tamir Rice, Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner.. and I imagine you've heard of more yourself.

Unless you actually know what it's like to look at yourself in the mirror everyday and have to grapple with the notion that, to old America, people like you were slaves that need to be controlled, and to new America, people like you are criminals that need to be locked up (or shot if you look violent - and when don't you?) - unless you actually know what that feels like, I would defer judgment on that kind of experience and struggle to the people who actually live it.  

[Smashedcookie]

As it was pointed out there are social structures of institutionalized racism, those facts you don't see pointed at in the media and what you said sounded as a speech about social correctness ignoring social-racial conditions.

I don't think that point of view is racist but it's short sighted and individualistic, white supremacy it's not about anger that media highlights but very real racial inequality.