The pledge of allegiance?!

[mister cornmill]

What are your views on the subject?!  

[Scraps 2-point-0]

I don't care, really. The only thing that bugs me about it is the "under God" clause, as I see it as a breach of the First Amendment, but I just omit it when I say it. Besides, removing it completely would result in some kind of culture shock. It's not required by law to say it every day or anything, so it doesn't really matter to me as long as it stays as it is.  

[A Design For Life]

I haven't said it in nearly a decade.
I don't have a problem with it though.
I just didn't say the 'under god' part when we used to recite it every Monday back in elementary school.

In my opinion, I really don't need to habitually pledge allegiance to this country.

I also believe that it never should have been messed with. It was just fine without the 'under god' part until the 1950s when it was added.

 

[Millie Baldessari]

I just don't say it.
Why do I have to pledge my allegiance?
Isn't it enough to have parents who pay their taxes?

I think it's just a silly way to brainwash small children into loving America.

 

[mister cornmill]

I believe everyone should say it if the opportunity presents itself. And the "under God" part (depending on how you look at it) is just stating that the US was brought up as a Christian nation.  

[A Design For Life]

eroticmops

I believe everyone should say it if the opportunity presents itself. And the "under God" part (depending on how you look at it) is just stating that the US was brought up as a Christian nation.

But, the Senate approved unanimously in the 1700s a treaty that included these words in it "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;". Not to mention that fact that the constitution itself makes no mention of God or Christianity.

"Under god" was approved by congress under McCarthyism and the second Red Scare. It was meant to further distinguish us from the godless commies of the Soviet Union.

Fun fact: The original Pledge of Allegiance was written by a Socialist.

 

[Millie Baldessari]

A Design For Life

eroticmops

I believe everyone should say it if the opportunity presents itself. And the "under God" part (depending on how you look at it) is just stating that the US was brought up as a Christian nation.

But, the Senate approved unanimously in the 1700s a treaty that included these words in it "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;". Not to mention that fact that the constitution itself makes no mention of God or Christianity.

"Under god" was approved by congress under McCarthyism and the second Red Scare. It was meant to further distinguish us from the godless commies of the Soviet Union.

Fun fact: The original Pledge of Allegiance was written by a Socialist.

intense yo

 

[Scraps 2-point-0]

A Design For Life

eroticmops

I believe everyone should say it if the opportunity presents itself. And the "under God" part (depending on how you look at it) is just stating that the US was brought up as a Christian nation.

But, the Senate approved unanimously in the 1700s a treaty that included these words in it "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;". Not to mention that fact that the constitution itself makes no mention of God or Christianity.

"Under god" was approved by congress under McCarthyism and the second Red Scare. It was meant to further distinguish us from the godless commies of the Soviet Union.

Fun fact: The original Pledge of Allegiance was written by a Socialist.

Really? I thought it was written by a priest. Maybe a socialist priest, I don't know.

And yes, that was the Treaty of Tripoli. Hold on, I have a funny picture somewhere...

 

[A Design For Life]

Scraps 2-point-0

Really? I thought it was written by a priest. Maybe a socialist priest, I don't know.

And yes, that was the Treaty of Tripoli. Hold on, I have a funny picture somewhere...

Yeah, Francis Bellamy.
He was a minister and an avid Christian Socialist.
His cousin was the author of a couple of bestselling Socialist utopia novels in the 1800s.
3nodding

 

[Millie Baldessari]

A Design For Life

Scraps 2-point-0

Really? I thought it was written by a priest. Maybe a socialist priest, I don't know.

And yes, that was the Treaty of Tripoli. Hold on, I have a funny picture somewhere...

Yeah, Francis Bellamy.
He was a minister and an avid Christian Socialist.
His cousin was the author of a couple of bestselling Socialist utopia novels in the 1800s.
3nodding

yea, i think he had a funny hair cut or something <<
sad how that's what I remember about him.

 

[Michael Noire]

I believe the pledge of allegiance being modified would invalidate the verbal contract of the people who originally swore an oath to uphold once prized values. Sometimes the world is a beautiful place, and sometimes it is dark and foreboding. Trading a dictator god for a dictator man is not my idea of upholding any previously assumed rights mentioned in the constitution.  

[toyacr]

eroticmops

I believe everyone should say it if the opportunity presents itself. And the "under God" part (depending on how you look at it) is just stating that the US was brought up as a Christian nation.

 

[General shadow1912]

Hi, Im not a member of this guild. I am a strong Republican. and I am a Christian. I am anti-Abortion. Anti-Obama Health Care. I just strongly disagree with Democrats.

The USA is so much more sophisticated and civilized than any other country in the world, yet obama wants us to stoop to their levels when we are the ones trying to set the example. Having the health care like the way it was, just re-assures that we are unique.

Why is it that the people who support abortion have already been born? I understand the rape thing. But still, People are people, No matter how small.

Like I said, I am a christian. The US was brought up as a Christian Nation. The First amendment says Freedom of Religion. Not freedom of atheists. Atheists dont believe in God, but God doesnt believe in atheists.

Vote Ron Paul for 2012 Pres.