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 Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:20 pm
I think it's "Und du?" because it's like asking "Und du (wohnst)...?" I figured that one out with the whole 'as' deal - "Ich bin klug als du," because it's really saying "Ich bin klug als du (bist)."
I hope I don't sound like a complete idiot if I'm wrong. sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:23 pm
I'm also pretty sure that's correct. It's gotta be "Und du."
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 9:12 pm
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:21 am
hi! just wanted to introduce myself. I was born in Germany, always lived in Luxemburg and now study in Paris, France. If any of u got questions i'd be glad to answer them.. biggrin Slippy_Pollett I think it's "Und du?" because it's like asking "Und du (wohnst)...?" I figured that one out with the whole 'as' deal - "Ich bin klug als du," because it's really saying "Ich bin klug als du (bist)." I hope I don't sound like a complete idiot if I'm wrong. sweatdrop yes, it is "und du?" but i didnt get what u want to say by "Ich bin klug als du (bist)." Did you want to say "I'm smarter than you" or "i'm as smart as you"? I think you wanted to say the first one, then it would be "ich bin klueger als du" and you would be right about the "bist" which isn't needed here. Don't worry, you're not a complete idiot... complete idiots wouldn't even TRY to learn a foreign language.
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:29 pm
Poor WellzY got burned alive. domokun
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:35 am
noooo, no one would burn you WellzY....
schmeisst den Grill an Leute, das muss noch schneller gehen!!!
so.. did any of you ever go to germany? and i don't mean Oktoberfest, because Oktoberfest REALLY isn't what germany looks like during the rest of the year, people don't behave like they normally do and munich isn't really all germany... there are so many interesting things to see! If you want an advice: northern germany is awesome!! people there are soooo friendly and i really like the see up there...
my mother and i did a road trip a month ago, we started in Trier and went up to hamburg, luebeck, the island Fehmarn (!!!).. we even went to denmark and sweden! and to sylt on our way back.... it was amazing!
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:58 am
cucoriedka noooo, no one would burn you WellzY.... schmeisst den Grill an Leute, das muss noch schneller gehen!!!
so.. did any of you ever go to germany? and i don't mean Oktoberfest, because Oktoberfest REALLY isn't what germany looks like during the rest of the year, people don't behave like they normally do and munich isn't really all germany... there are so many interesting things to see! If you want an advice: northern germany is awesome!! people there are soooo friendly and i really like the see up there... my mother and i did a road trip a month ago, we started in Trier and went up to hamburg, luebeck, the island Fehmarn (!!!).. we even went to denmark and sweden! and to sylt on our way back.... it was amazing! Europea is porbably as far away as I can go in the world. o_0 I've never been to Germany, but I would love to go. I wanted to go before I started German, and learning German (as part of it is also learning of the culture and events) makes me want to go even more. Die Love Parade! gonk
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:19 am
WellzY I've never been to Germany, but I would love to go. I wanted to go before I started German, and learning German (as part of it is also learning of the culture and events) makes me want to go even more. I was wondering... when you take german classes, what do they tell you about german culture? please dont tell me they say that all Germans walk around in Lederhosen, eat sausages and sauerkraut and drink beer all day long.... gonk YAYY!!! blaugh Loveparade!!! I'm going to Berlin in two weeks, its a pitty i go there after the loveparade, i would've loved to see what its like in real. too bad you guys in america are so far away... i think its a really great thing to have so many different cultures, languages, people and history on such a small place, europe is small after all... and travelling isnt that expensive here, which is great for me because i just LOVE to travel!!
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:29 pm
My German teacher told me some things about steriotypical Germans..
This obviously doesn't apply to everyone, and this is from her experience of living there in the 70s for a couple years.
-Germans are very well planned people, everything has a time and date
-In most homes, doors are closed, always, unless somone is coming through them
-A traditional breakfast consists of Kalteplatte, Wurst, Brot mit Nutella oder some kind of meat spread, etc.
-Extremely anti-Hitler. Even from my experiences of talking to Germans online, most of them seem to be very passionate about their hate of Hitler..even to the point of getting pissed off about Hitler jokes....
-Most people will classify themselves as Christian, even if they don't ever go to Church or live a religous lifestyle at all
Those are some of the main ones, I know I'm leaving some out. But yeah...
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:52 am
yeah, all of that is kinda true...
It's true that we're organized and it is considered very rude to be late (unlike in france where you have the "quart d'heure de politesse" the 15 minutes of courtesy, you always come 15 minutes late to allow those who invite you to do the last preparations... you can imagine how odd it was when we gave a dinner and everyone was arriving late or when we were far too early...)
about the doors beeing closed in can't really say... but at my home it was like that. you know, always close a door when you pass through, dont make unnessecary noises, dont scream in the house when you want something, switch off the lights when you leave a room...
yes, we prefer eating salty things for breakfast, i think there's some real traditional breakfast which looks a bit like english breakfast but to my knowledge in most families they just have bread with things on it, like you said.. my french roommate gets nuts when i eat my wurstbrot in the morning... and i roll my eyes when i see her dipping her croissant in her coffee...
you, know, we can't really afford beeing xenophobe or not extremely anti-hitler... it kinda ruined our image in the rest of the world... forever... even though i was born a long time after the wars, it is part of my identity, i cant get rid of it, people always come up with it, again and again... and it depends on the hitler jokes, some are really stupid.. go and check out "hitler, die nazi-sau" by walter moehrs.... hilarious.... xd
That reminds me of a joke... what was the greatest historical achievement of the austrians? - they made hitler a german and beethoven an austrian.
but the downside of this is that a lot of people pretend to be open but in fact they dislike the foreigners, especially turkish people. but they wouldn't openly admit it... there's a huge discussion about that, i wont go into much details...
true about the religion. but you know, you can still be christian and believe in God without ever going to church. well, i wouldn't know, i'm not religious, but i think people here deal with it differently than in other countries. but thats europe in general.
arrrrrrrggg, i talk to much....... gonk sorry guys for beeing annoying....
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:31 am
I didn't mean the Christian thing that way. I was saying, most people in the US who aren't very familiar with Christianity don't usually classify themselves as Christians. They might say they believe in the Christian God or Jesus though. In Germany, people just say "I am a Christian", no matter if they have been around religion in their lives or not. It's more so a difference of how they perceive themselves than how they worship. Although, in the US, a lot of Christians believe in order to be a good Christian, you must go to church on every sunday....
GO ATHEISM! WOOOO!
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:43 am
Better of Two Evils I didn't mean the Christian thing that way. I was saying, most people in the US who aren't very familiar with Christianity don't usually classify themselves as Christians. They might say they believe in the Christian God or Jesus though. In Germany, people just say "I am a Christian", no matter if they have been around religion in their lives or not. It's more so a difference of how they perceive themselves than how they worship. Although, in the US, a lot of Christians believe in order to be a good Christian, you must go to church on every sunday.... GO ATHEISM! WOOOO! actually the State of Utah does! (overly ><; ) yeah go ATHEISM!
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:05 am
but they are familiar with christianism... you know, we learn that in school, we've got religion classes. and we pay taxes for the church. you want to know what you're paying for, right? and a lot of people have been baptised but chose not to take the two other religious things after that (kommunion and firmung in german....) like me. I was baptised, meaning im christian, but since i never believed in it, especially not in the church, i chose not to renew my vows towards God. but i'm still baptised and christian. I could marry in a church.
Its like with my passport. I was born in germany, i speak the german language, but i dont really feel german because i've been raised in luxemburg. But i'm still german.
to be honest, from our point of vue some people in the US overdo this whole christianity thing... there are a lot more religious groups than here and people there go to church a lot more than people here. there was one church in germany which put a huge advert on the scaffolding when it was under construction. and since you have to pay church taxes a lot of people excomunicate (is that how u say it?) from the church. atheists dont pay taxes! do you guys pay church taxes?
WOHOO FOR ATHEISM!!! xd
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:56 pm
Hell, no. We do not pay taxes for any Church, Temple, etc. That would probably contradict with our "Freedom of Religion". It would be forcing people to pay for what they don't believe in.
Yes, we do have a lot of people in the U.S. that overdo Christianity. It's quite sad really, but there isn't a lot the rest of us can do about it, since all of our politicians must at least act like they're extremely religous.
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:08 pm
cucoriedka my french roommate gets nuts when i eat my wurstbrot in the morning... and i roll my eyes when i see her dipping her croissant in her coffee... That mental images make me chuckle. A German and a French, sharing breakfast. They might look the same, but their meals is so starkly contrasted, it seems alsmo farcical. And I'm actually Australian, not American. I'm even further away. gonk What I love about Europe is it's extreme mix and variability of culture, language, and tradition. I've been Baptised as well (anglican parents) but I've never had Communion, and I'm not religious either. From what our German implies to us, there a lot more religious holidays in Germany, than we have in Australia, largely because of the Catholic influence. Sometimes I wish we were more Catholic, so we could have a proper Carnival. And fear not, I think in my class we're all old enough to understand that stereotypes in culture are rarely flamboyant as they seem. I mean sure, German's probably do eat a lot more sausages than we do in Australia, but they certainly don't go around wearing Lederhosen all day long. In Australia, part of our taxes go towards Churches, mostly on the bassis of their charity work I believe (as a subsidy) but there is no specific tax which everyone is charged. I think the official term is tithe.
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