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Post: 91529273_1 created on Tue, 15 Apr 2014 08:53:39 +0000
Posted: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 08:53:39 +0000

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Post: 91529273_2 created on Tue, 15 Apr 2014 09:20:24 +0000
Posted: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 09:20:24 +0000

I'm usually pretty patient with crews but this drives me nuts.

Me: Before I assign does anyone have any buff or ring restrictions?
Crew: ... nobody says anything.

I assign the rings.

Someone doesn't bring the rings I asked. Or otherwise doesn't bring rings I assign or told them not to bring.

"I don't have that"

So then I have to reassign to the crew because some people can't answer a simple question. And then they do something like bring a second adren because they want to or don't want me assigning entire ring sets and I have to repeatedly tell them to get different rings and spend 10-20 minutes waiting on 1-2 people.

I can see why some people would rather save themselves the trouble and kick in those kind of situations even if I wouldn't.

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Post: 91529273_3 created on Tue, 15 Apr 2014 09:25:35 +0000
Posted: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 09:25:35 +0000

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Yes, and I find that rude. How'd you like it if someone kicked you because of that?

Maybe the people were AFK or they didn't know what you meant.

But yes, sometimes the crew just wants to cause trouble.

But I'm not talking about those kinds of people.

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Post: 91529273_4 created on Tue, 15 Apr 2014 12:17:33 +0000
Posted: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 12:17:33 +0000

I can't say much about the currents tanks/kites (who IMO just don't seem to care) but that kites that I know usually don't kick without reason. And no, I'm not saying the newbie is a reason. The only time I kick from crews is when they are really trying my patience since I came to have fun, not to get a migraine. And the only happens if they A) Deliberately ignore my instructions or B) Just don't do anything and seem to be more intent on holding things up than actually learning. And yes, if I'm not giving a heads up about their rings I will kick since I usually am not the pickiest when it comes to that, but I better know why you don't have Slash and put Bow in there. It is simple common courtesy after all.
Now there is a chance that you ran into a CL12 n00b, which are pretty common unfortunately.

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Post: 91529273_5 created on Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:27:28 +0000
Posted: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:27:28 +0000

This is really a nice post, I feel the same way with the new in gr or what.
Everyone should read this and think. I mean really THINK.

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Post: 91529273_6 created on Tue, 15 Apr 2014 14:43:33 +0000
Posted: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 14:43:33 +0000

this is what i'm for emotion_awesome
But in all seriousness, welcome to dms. I don't usually take that s**t in YM, like if the tank's being an a*****e, I'll chew them out and leave(I won't even leave my buffs twisted ) In GR, I will only stay if I know the kite, if I know how the kite is, or if they're new and learning. If I don't know them or if I know they're assholes that I don't like, I'll leave as soon as i get invited in.
It's pretty sad... I had a nice girl come up to me a few days ago saying how I was so sweet and how I was the only tank she saw that was actually nice and cared about the crew members.
It's sad and it makes me ashamed to be a part of this community with the amount of complete dicks there are.

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Post: 91529273_7 created on Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:17:18 +0000
Posted: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 15:17:18 +0000

Girl you better preach~ talk2hand heart
Some people forget that ZOMG IS A GAME.
When you die, you come back. You're not going anywhere.
And everyone has to learn SOMEHOW.

Reli, remember that night I said I went with another crew?
The kite got mad cuz I was attacking other things lol
and the adrenner adrened EVERYTHING (literally nf, wolves, vamps first) so I couldn't ******** tell lmao
so I quit rolleyes

some people just suck balls lol rolleyes rolleyes

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Post: 91529273_8 created on Tue, 15 Apr 2014 16:18:26 +0000
Posted: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 16:18:26 +0000

This is why I'm still around, or at least try to be. I want people to be able to find joy in the game that I had joy in as well, these types of tanks just aren't the type of tanks you need.

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Post: 91529273_9 created on Tue, 15 Apr 2014 16:34:37 +0000
Posted: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 16:34:37 +0000

I'm more than willing to teach newbies, but only if they actually listen.
I've had many noobs (note: noob and newbie is not the same thing) that won't listen.
The only time I've kicked someone is when I assign rings and they take something else,
go to DMS and start messing around. If you don't listen to me, then you're out.

There seems to be more noobs than newbies in DMS. They have hard time listening and doing what you tell them to do (for example kill this target first). When I started DMS I obeyed and listened, I had all my buffs and they all were CL10. I highly recommend getting all or most of the buffs and leveling them to CL 10 before DMS. That way you are well prepared and you have less trouble.

Also it's a good thing to read about DMS beforehand. Like what is in there and what are buffs and debuffs etc. Of course most of it you'll learn along the way. Some noobs have hard time asking if they don't know something - instead they just do stuff that may kill everyone. It's always recommended to ask if you don't know something.

That's all.

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Post: 91529273_10 created on Tue, 15 Apr 2014 18:40:22 +0000
Posted: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 18:40:22 +0000

I love to kite GR and I don't mind taking newbies into GR, or attuning someone.
But they also have to follow instructions, when i ask them to kill BD next en focus on a vamp, or start attacking whatever... When I take someone new to GR there I always tell them the killing order and I expect them to follow it. I also want them to amp, if they don't have amps and I have spare I sent them, but sometimes they don't even use them. I know there are some rotten tanks out there, but there are some rotten newbies too.

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Post: 91529273_11 created on Tue, 15 Apr 2014 19:08:22 +0000
Posted: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 19:08:22 +0000

I tell people to go level up the rest of their rings before trying to DMS. They generally understand and don't get butthurt and leave on their own...

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Post: 91529273_12 created on Tue, 15 Apr 2014 20:03:33 +0000
Posted: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 20:03:33 +0000

I like how the OP tastefully ignores the fact that said "crew members" are potentially some of the worst people to try and teach.

I, like many others, will be patient to a fault. If I give instructions, I'd like them to be followed. I don't enjoy spending more than 20 minutes to assign rings and get the ball rolling in a run. When you have people that fight you about ring assignments, or purposefully take bad rings, then it becomes difficult to work around such things.

It's even more frustrating when you're trying to train/accomodate said newcomers and they look as if they literally just came from PS, and have nothing but AOE's for attacks.

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Post: 91529273_13 created on Tue, 15 Apr 2014 21:25:32 +0000
Posted: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 21:25:32 +0000

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Maybe the people were AFK or they didn't know what you meant.

If they were afk and didn't say anything, that's their problem, not the crew leader's. If they simply didn't know what you meant, they could've asked (again, their problem, not the leader's).

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Post: 91529273_14 created on Tue, 15 Apr 2014 23:06:18 +0000
Posted: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 23:06:18 +0000

Sorry but I can't agree to this post.
Sometimes it's just too frustrating to assign to a newbie who only has like 2 buffs at 10 and the incorrect ringset. Also, when you ask them something pertaining to their rings, they dont even reply after asking 3+ times (i've experienced this).
I'm all for teaching them but like 80% just don't listen for some unknown reason LOL

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Post: 91529273_15 created on Tue, 15 Apr 2014 23:07:27 +0000
Posted: Tue, 15 Apr 2014 23:07:27 +0000

I usually (when I tank, and I tank most of my runs) try to guide newbies through DMS (like, not explaining everything in detail, but making things clear, as rebuffing, attacking, how does it works, etc.) and the crew usually goes well (once I had a crew full of 10-10.8s and they were very good tbh).
But I hate when there's the kind of newbies that are like ¨I carry HWB because I like it¨. No. Just no. That kind of things piss me off. I try to explain them why you can't do it, and if they're still trying to go against it, I kick them

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