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You are outstandingly hotheaded. You come back with attacks and insults to the most benign things. And when I provide a first-hand account as a soldier, you simply tell me I'm lying because you cannot think of a way to refute it? Who is the child here?


Let's see. I point out you said something about me that wasn't true on the same page and you qualify that as insult and then you ask who the child is and lie again, one the very same page.

Well, if you want to be treated that way, I guess I did point out that you had the option, as well as to lie or be helped. Seems off to say 'I'd rather make things up about other people because I don't want to fix a blatant plothole and not be helped' on a help thread. Far be it for me to trust you to use google and wikipedia to research types of camps or the atrocities the Jews suffered in one of the worst massacres in history.
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'It's fiction' is a poor excuse to ignore centuries of politics, especially when your whole premise revolves around those politics.


Not really. Fiction has been an excuse for all kinds of things. But really, I have also established that China was becoming power-hungry and said that I implied in-story China had bullied both into this. But in any case, I've also admitted that this is a valid flaw. It's not what I want to focus on at the moment; because, honestly, the only important thing is that the backdrop is the war. I can change the details later.


If you knew there was a problem with your backdrop, why post it? Why didn't you just say it was set in a third world war...? That way there would be no detraction for the answer you wanted and you could later ask for help on the backdrop of the war.

You also said yourself that the Holocaust had nothing to do with your story, so why continue to argue the point?

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I'm planning a novel now, and I've sorta run into a problem. you see the story takes place in an alternate universe where magic is centered around the elements, fire earth air and water. the elements can be controled usuing stones, and stomes can be mixed toghather to make new elements. heres what I've got so far:

Water + Air = Ice

Fire + Earth = Magma

Fire + Water = Mist

Water + Earth = here's my problem. you see I want this to be a stone that can control plants, but I don't want to call it the plant stone, to me that just sounds lame. But I can't think of anything much better, so any ideas?
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I'm planning a novel now, and I've sorta run into a problem. you see the story takes place in an alternate universe where magic is centered around the elements, fire earth air and water. the elements can be controled usuing stones, and stomes can be mixed toghather to make new elements. heres what I've got so far:

Water + Air = Ice

Fire + Earth = Magma

Fire + Water = Mist

Water + Earth = here's my problem. you see I want this to be a stone that can control plants, but I don't want to call it the plant stone, to me that just sounds lame. But I can't think of anything much better, so any ideas?
Nature, perhaps?
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I'm planning a novel now, and I've sorta run into a problem. you see the story takes place in an alternate universe where magic is centered around the elements, fire earth air and water. the elements can be controled usuing stones, and stomes can be mixed toghather to make new elements. heres what I've got so far:

Water + Air = Ice

Fire + Earth = Magma

Fire + Water = Mist

Water + Earth = here's my problem. you see I want this to be a stone that can control plants, but I don't want to call it the plant stone, to me that just sounds lame. But I can't think of anything much better, so any ideas?
Nature, perhaps?
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I'm planning a novel now, and I've sorta run into a problem. you see the story takes place in an alternate universe where magic is centered around the elements, fire earth air and water. the elements can be controled usuing stones, and stomes can be mixed toghather to make new elements. heres what I've got so far:

Water + Air = Ice

Fire + Earth = Magma

Fire + Water = Mist

Water + Earth = here's my problem. you see I want this to be a stone that can control plants, but I don't want to call it the plant stone, to me that just sounds lame. But I can't think of anything much better, so any ideas?
Nature, perhaps?
Hmm, that could work. Thanks!
What if you looked up the names in a different language or something?

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I'm planning a novel now, and I've sorta run into a problem. you see the story takes place in an alternate universe where magic is centered around the elements, fire earth air and water. the elements can be controled usuing stones, and stomes can be mixed toghather to make new elements. heres what I've got so far:

Water + Air = Ice

Fire + Earth = Magma

Fire + Water = Mist

Water + Earth = here's my problem. you see I want this to be a stone that can control plants, but I don't want to call it the plant stone, to me that just sounds lame. But I can't think of anything much better, so any ideas?
Nature, perhaps?
Hmm, that could work. Thanks!

Plants aren't even half of nature, though.

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I'm planning a novel now, and I've sorta run into a problem. you see the story takes place in an alternate universe where magic is centered around the elements, fire earth air and water. the elements can be controled usuing stones, and stomes can be mixed toghather to make new elements. heres what I've got so far:

Water + Air = Ice

Fire + Earth = Magma

Fire + Water = Mist

Water + Earth = here's my problem. you see I want this to be a stone that can control plants, but I don't want to call it the plant stone, to me that just sounds lame. But I can't think of anything much better, so any ideas?


There is a really good game called Doodle God that is all about elements :3 it is really good! For the stone I thought of mud?

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I'm planning a novel now, and I've sorta run into a problem. you see the story takes place in an alternate universe where magic is centered around the elements, fire earth air and water. the elements can be controled usuing stones, and stomes can be mixed toghather to make new elements. heres what I've got so far:

Water + Air = Ice

Fire + Earth = Magma

Fire + Water = Mist

Water + Earth = here's my problem. you see I want this to be a stone that can control plants, but I don't want to call it the plant stone, to me that just sounds lame. But I can't think of anything much better, so any ideas?


There is a really good game called Doodle God that is all about elements :3 it is really good! For the stone I thought of mud?


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I'm planning a novel now, and I've sorta run into a problem. you see the story takes place in an alternate universe where magic is centered around the elements, fire earth air and water. the elements can be controlled using stones, and stones can be mixed together to make new elements. here's what I've got so far:

Water + Air = Ice

Fire + Earth = Magma

Fire + Water = Mist

Water + Earth = here's my problem. you see I want this to be a stone that can control plants, but I don't want to call it the plant stone, to me that just sounds lame. But I can't think of anything much better, so any ideas?


~Might I suggest using Latin names?It sounds authentic when used to name magic related things. The stone could be called Solum-earth element or Terra-earth,land.Plant would be Sero/Sato.

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I'm planning a novel now, and I've sorta run into a problem. you see the story takes place in an alternate universe where magic is centered around the elements, fire earth air and water. the elements can be controlled using stones, and stones can be mixed together to make new elements. here's what I've got so far:

Water + Air = Ice

Fire + Earth = Magma

Fire + Water = Mist

Water + Earth = here's my problem. you see I want this to be a stone that can control plants, but I don't want to call it the plant stone, to me that just sounds lame. But I can't think of anything much better, so any ideas?


~Might I suggest using Latin names?It sounds authentic when used to name magic related things. The stone could be called Solum-earth element or Terra-earth,land.Plant would be Sero/Sato.


Latin doesn't make magic sound more magicy. It doesn't work in Avatar the last airbender or in Voudun religion (or many others).

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~It can if used correctly,sparingly and in the right context.Many words used in magickal arts come from Latin or Greek roots.Moreover,Latin is the arcane language of wizardry.Many ancient spells and words of power are in Latin.

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~It can if used correctly,sparingly and in the right context.Many words used in magickal arts come from Latin or Greek roots.Moreover,Latin is the arcane language of wizardry.Many ancient spells and words of power are in Latin.


You're making stuff up.

My bf actually used to be taught by a local wizard. The spell titles were in English.

I studied several neo-pagan religions. The titles are in English.

Latin influenced Christianity, which has always been against spells. There's Judaic, Norse, Greek, Voudun, and other spells, but those are not in the Latin language.

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~Let me understand this.Just because you personally do not know it,the defense reaction is that I am automatically making this up?Why would I waste time posting lies? *sigh* This is why Latin is considered arcane language of Wizardry,it's a bit long but there's a long history:

Once again,a lot of unusual words used in magic come from Latin(Roman) and Greek roots.(As example,a simple chant from a spell to acquire wealth has this line:"Bona Fortuna,hear my verse." Fortuna being fortune in..Latin.)Magical practice has been around for a long time,all the ideas and concepts have a long history.The original names given to things in one language are often carried over into the language of the next dominant culture.This is especially true in fields of science and Wizardry. There were many original languages of Wizards-Persian, Egyptian, Hebrew, Sumerian, Greek, Chinese and many others.But successions of large empires arose,with many cultures put under one rule and imposing on all the language of the rulers that everyone needed to learn to be able to communicate throughout the Empire.The older languages became arcane (secret) languages known mostly only to scholars who read the old books in which they were written. When by 325 bce, starting in Greece,Alexander the great conquered the entire civilized world from Italy to Egypt and India establishing the Mace-donian Empire Greek became the universal language throughout the Western world.Egyptian,Hebrew,Persian and others became arcane languages of scholars and Wizards.When in 50 bce Julies Caesar re-conquered Alexander's old territory,not to mention all of Europe clear into Britain,forming the Roman Empire,Latin became the new universal language and Greek became Arcane.Roman Catholic Church took over after Rome was sacked by Vandals in 445 ce,forming the Holy Roman Empire in the West.They ruled the world for the next 1,000 years until the Reformation and Renaissance in 14th-15th centuries.During all that time Latin was the "official" written language with Greek and Hebrew remaining arcane.When the British empire was born and expanded into a worldwide Empire English became the new universal language and Latin became arcane.

That's how Latin is considered the Arcane language of Catholicism,Science and Wizardry.

As for why you haven't come across spells using Latin:there are millions of different spells haling from different cultures.Moreover,they get changed and adopted for current times.Unless you actually went looking for some using Latin it would be up to chance if you came across any or not.Also,most of current books of spells prefer to use simple language you will understand as few people actually know Latin.From my personal experience,only three books I've come across actually have spells using Latin phrases and one of those books is an encyclopedia with them gathered from different cultures and ages.

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