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[x - Porcelain R o s e - x]

x supernaturalist x

Everyone's "pissing their pants over [your] language" because it isn't necessary. It isn't necessary at all.

But I can already see what your reply to that will be: something about, "oh lmfao i no it iznt nesasary bt i lyk uzng it. so."

Here's a tip, junior: arguments are generally taken more seriously when they don't have so much profanity in them.

I full and well expect a very, very obscene reply to this.

Swearing is never necessary. So to say one shouldn't swear because it was unnecessary is sorta...oxymoron-ish. He swore because he felt like it, was probably a bit frustrated, and it held a bit of a better impact.

But just take a look at what you're doing for a moment...he said that he does this so his point will get across and his issue will be addressed. If you all had simply ignored his post from the get-go and continued to do what you wanted to do, you would have ultimately won this debate. You are all basically acting like fish and were hooked by his bait rofl . I don't think his intention was ever to argue...so his argument getting taken seriously probably isn't really much of a concern for him....

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You "respect" it? Then why not stop cursing at everyone if you "respect" what they have to say? Somehow, to me, being cursed at just isn't synonymous to "I respect what you say." But then, what more could you expect from someone who describes "bad," "lame," or "stupid" things as being "gay"?

Um...I think he was only talking to me, not you guys. >.>

And must we get into that silly little argument about a stupid slang word? "Gay" is a word with a couple of meanings; some good, some bad, just like many other words. You don't see me getting up in arms when people use "black" to mean "evil" and "dirty", do you? You don't see me interpreting that as meaning "Black people are evil", do you? You don't see me getting pissed because someone says "PMSing" to mean being a b***h, do you? You don't see me thinking that means "women are bitches", do you? You don't see people getting angry when people use "lame" to mean something negative, do you? You don't see physically handicapped people going "OMG! You're trying to be negative toward the handicapped!!" do you? No, you don't, because I and most others realize that words can have more than one meaning and they can all be completely unrelated to each other stare .

Just because one meaning of the word is "happy" and the other is "homosexual" doesn't mean all of a sudden that homosexuals are all happy, lively individuals, does it? Then why would that be so if another, slang-only, meaning of the word was "lame"? When people use "gay" as an negative thing, they are usually not trying to make comments about sexuality or their opinion on homosexuals in any way, shape, or form.

I'm sorry, I know that its off topic and that it may offend some people, but that is one thing that just seriously pisses me off. I hate it when people try to accuse people of being homophobic over the stupidest little things. Matter of fact, I hate it when people try to accuse people of being hateful (as in racist, sexist, ageist, etc.) in any sort of way over small, insignificant actions and words. I just hate that with a passion because I find it all just idiotic and immature...-_-

I really do apologize if anyone got offended by that little rant, but that's just how I think of this whole thing with the usage of the word "gay". People shouldn't get so upset of insignificant things...it wastes time and energy that could be used doing something constructive. For example, instead of worrying over people using "gay" in a way that you don't like for some reason...shouldn't we be kicking the asses of those that decide to actually persecute and harm homosexuals? I think the way people are treated is much more important than this. Another example, instead of worrying about how Blacks call themselves "*****" and the internal oppression this represents, we need to worry about how Blacks physically and emotionally bully each other for not following ignorant stereotypes (ya know, "black on black crime" and all that jive). We need to worry about the actions first and the implication of words second, simple as that. While we fuss about the word "gay" and the word "*****", people are dying because of the greater, more devastating, illustration of intolerance there is in the violence against these groups.

Which sorta goes back to this entire argument. This is just plain dumb and overall, there was no reason to get upset at MajKai over such an insignificant statement (see my awesome way to make everything related in some way shape or form in the end?). His words cannot hurt you in any sort of way. Now if he was calling everyone on this thread complete and utter morons for filling out this sheet, you may have a case against him. But he didn't. He just said "write your ******** stories", which really is what we all should be doing...

((Note: Sorry...I was long-winded once again, lol.))

[Nematri]

Character sheets can be useful at times. Funnily enough, though, I tend not to use them when I'm making a new character, but when I already have an established character whom I know pretty well. I'll sit down and fill out one of these character sheets for him, and while I already know half the answers because I know the character so well, filling out a character sheet throws out some new questions that I hadn't considered when I initially made the character and got to know him - and so I'm forced to think of answers to these questions.

I hope that made sense. I'm aware I've been rambling and not getting to the point much, as of late.

[MajKai Nis is a Ninja Jew]

- L a d y S i -

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You "respect" it? Then why not stop cursing at everyone if you "respect" what they have to say? Somehow, to me, being cursed at just isn't synonymous to "I respect what you say." But then, what more could you expect from someone who describes "bad," "lame," or "stupid" things as being "gay"?

Um...I think he was only talking to me, not you guys. >.>

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uhm.


yeah. i was. obviously. duh.






jesus, what an awkward moment.

[Vinstepula]

- L a d y S i -

You are all basically acting like fish and were hooked by his bait rofl . I don't think his intention was ever to argue...so his argument getting taken seriously probably isn't really much of a concern for him....

I just wanted to point out that, while people responded to him, they mostly jumped on him for swearing big time. No one but very few really looked at his issues, even then, no one took him seriously. But I do disagree, if he never wanted people to take him seriously, why would he keep responding? Attention? He did come in very strongly, so I do think his aim was to argue with people.

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And must we get into that silly little argument about a stupid slang word? "Gay" is a word with a couple of meanings; some good, some bad, just like many other words.

I don't think she meant that it was offending homosexuals or anything of that sort. If you pay someone a compliment, it is better to do it without insults in there. Of course it is up to how ever the person responds to it. I think the big issues that supernaturalist is aiming at is that there is a high lack of manners but a big load of hypocrisy and insulting.

Overall, both sides of the argument fails for both MajKai and Supernaturalist. Maybe they made good points, or even gave correct information, but the way they are doing it is wrong. No one will listen to a person who is being downright rude. They will argue with them, but not really take their arguments seriously.

Think at what we could have develop in this forum. Instead of sticking to one side (Characters sheets are useless or They are useful.) Someone could have been discussing what parts of it were useless and fixing it up so that it will be a good thing in the end. Arguing over characters and stories is very pointless. (Ironically... if filling out character sheets is a useless time consuming thing, then why are they arguing on here? It is even more useless compared to character sheets. xd ) Because in the end... you can't have a good story without good characters, and you can't have good characters without a good story.

[Skeleton-keys-n-sushi]

THANK YOU!
Now I can adaquetly describe my character. heart

[Okiimiru]

ShineBright29

Now THAT's awesome! *goes to fill it out for a character* For anyone who feels that, having filled out that list of dhoom, they still don't know they're character well enough, here's a few others that are always fun to do:

Date of Birth:
Zodiac Sign:
Sun Sign:
Blood Type:
Favorite food:
Least favorite food:
Bad habits:
Character's motto:

What's a sun sign?

[Lord Tezzy]

MajKai Nis rides again

here's a tip, junior: the only person in this forum qualified to flame my a** is me. so.

i wish my head was so far up my a** that i gave a s**t.

and, yes, you've done a great job of "ripp[ing my] argument to shreds"! good job!

well, i mean, you've done a great job if by "ripped to shreds" we mean "in no fundamental way addressed while merely re-presenting what others have already said." i would like to congratulate you on taking yourself so incredibly seriously that you managed to make it all the way to the point of assuming that your wording of the same old baseless argument would somehow be more special than the manner in which everyone else has stated it.

to address you and mianna (who was, quite frankly, more persuasive with her words than you've been with yours, big boy) at the same time, my argument is not one of LOL I DONT DU IT TAHT WAY SO U SHUDNT EITHER, which is, quite frankly, nothing but your argument's retarded cousin from detroit. as i thought i'd made pretty clear, i'm not interested in what people do. whether people do it or don't means precisely d**k to me. what i'm concerned with--and the grounds for everything i've said here--is an underlying philosophy of writing that you kids simply do not seem to grasp. at all. now, read closely:


STORY IS NOT DICTATED BY CHARACTER; CHARACTER IS DICTATED ENTIRELY BY STORY.

do not confuse "story" with "plot"; story, here, refers to the whole of the written composition.

i don't really think i can make it any clearer.

character sheets are a waste of time at best and fundamentally destructive at worst. normally, i don't give a s**t about the silly non-writing bullshit that's perpetuated in this forum, but this is highly akin to the "writing game" nonsense i felt compelled to punch in the digital throat a couple years ago. the ultimate point is the same, in fact: you cannot separate the elements of a story from the story itself and make the story better. period. the parts only function when applied to the whole, and it's ******** retarded to assume that any element--in this case, character--can be abstracted from the entirety of the story. when you start abstracting elements, it leads to idiotic notions--such as believing a character is more than a piece of the story in which it functions.

and that's simply not the case. as i've stated earlier in this thread. so.

i sincerely hope you're clear on just how silly your so-called "argument" appears. if you care to try this again and actually deal with the words i've typed, instead of sidestepping them to put forward the LOL BT IT HALPZ SUM PPL theory again, please feel free. if not, i recommend staying silent from here on out.

either way, definitely avoid further failed attempts to make me look like the wrong kind of a*****e.

You actually made me laugh. And I don't mean the kind where I chuckle here and there, I mean I had to get up and walk away from the computer just so I could breathe. You honestly are so high up on your pedastal that you can't even see the ground. Here a tip: get your head out of the clouds (And apparently your a**) and keep yourself grounded in reality.

Now that said. Let's continue with my "flaming" as you so ineptly put it (considering I was commenting that I disagreed, what you have done is flamed, by attacking me as a person, and not my arguement. Go back and read again, then ask around for the real definition of flaming, then we can talk about it in a civilized manner.) Now, about the whole only you can flame yourself thing: What the hell does that mean? Do you mean to tell me you go around flaming yourself, that could lead to serious psychological issues in the future. And please, don't call me junior, for all you know I could be twice your age, which makes you look completely arrogant and pretentious.

Next on the list: if you are so unconcerned by what people do, why are you still posting here? And why do you bother to get so worked up about it? I suggest you learn to control yourself, lest you look even more like an idiot than you already do. And I really do pity you. You are the entire definition of close-minded. The characters DRIVE the story, not the other way around. They are an aspect of the story that is just as important as the plot, and though I too believe they should never be separated from it in any way shape or form, I do not believe that the story shapes the characters. If, for arguments sake, my story has a strong emphasis on the psychological mindset of the character through their issues, which is more important: the character, or the plot. I'm betting nine of ten just answered character, so... how do I put this in terms you can understand... go F*** off.

Which brings me to the next point, which is, why do you feel the need to curse and shout? That is what capital letters mean: shouting. Does it make you feel smart, or perhaps it makes you feel superior. In either case, it makes you look, not to be repetitive or anything but, arrogant with a side of stunted vocabulary.

Now for the grand finale. I don't need to make you look like an a**, becuae anyone who reads your words will come to the exact same conclusion that I did. (which just to make it perfectly clear, I wrote up top.) So, now, I believe I have dealt with your "words."

Please refrain from acting upon your arrogant and retarded impulses and continue to allow others to enjoy Gaia as a PG-13, flame free site. Honestly, I question your ability to comprehend what I've typed (see now I'm flaming) and would suggest that if you have any of those strong urges or desires, you reread my post from top to bottom at least three times. Then you might retain some of the information. Bye bye now. 3nodding

[Lord Tezzy]

- L a d y S i -

@MajKai Nis rides again: I'm just curious but who are you? I don't mean that in a rude way...its just that you said you studied with the greats and that makes me think you might be like....an author we all know in disguise or something o_O which would be hilarious honestly...especially after how everyone was flaming you.

Anyway, although I disagree that the character sheets are a complete waste of time...I do agree that everyone is being a bit feisty over nothing. I mean, they are saying that you should be respecting their opinions on how to develop their story and that writing is subjective and all that nice fluffy stuff while at the same time not allowing you to have your opinion on the matter. Or at least that's what I'm seeing. Everyone is just being hypocrites and jumping to contradictory conclusions. Its not like you were directly attacking them...you were just saying that instead of doing these super-long character sheets people should be focusing on the characters' development within the context of the story, or in other words: just write the damn thing already. And I agree with that...especially with the general habits of the writers on Gaia. They plan and plan and plan everything separately and when they put it all together (IF they get to put it together), its a complete mess. I still feel more neutral toward these things than for or against it, but that's only because I know from experience exactly how these character sheets can help and how it can hurt a writer.

Personally, I think that the way you stated yourself initially wasn't rude at all...unless "********" all by itself is automatically being rude and mean now...I saw it as more "sarcastic" (for lack of better word) than anything else. But maybe that's because I tend to use that sort of language myself on these forums from time to time and I usually don't mean anything by it except maybe general frustration...

Um... I generally don't like to disagree with you Si, but nobody jumped to contradict him. He layed out his argument, and we (as a group) laid out ours and used his argument against him. That is academic debate. He then proceeded to oppose everyone on his crusade of justice and holiness and threw his little flames at everyone.

BTW. MR. IM-SO-HOLY-AND-NEED-TO-TELL-EVERYONE-HOW-TO-DO-EVERYTHING-ABOUT-WRITING. I honestly and truthfully feel sorry for your students. Seriously, even if you turn out to be a great teacher (which I'm sure with enough work on your language and over-bearing personality you'll accomplish) nobody here wants to be your student, so stop treating us like little children and learn how to talk to people. And no, in order to respect someone's opinion, you have to do what you are imcapable of doing (hmm... apparently I can't either currently) and not hate them after it. You have to digest it, give them credit where credit is due, and then make your counter-point with the poise and verbatem of an academic writer. I'm sorry. Honestly I am. If I had known that you were such a pompous a** and looked down upon everyone you came in contanct with, I never would have bothered to disagree with you.

Question: Are you angry? Cuz if you wanted to know, I'm still laughing. Grow up. You may be intelligent, but you won't be a adult in my book until you learn how to speak to people. Anyway, I have a personality for my villain, and everyone will hate him. YOU!!! (I'm serious, I'm going to use the personality and fire you put into these posts as my character.)

Now to fill out another character sheet. Then, in about six months, when I've finished the first book and have moved onto the second and the antagonist has more stage time, I'll have a lovely character sheet to refer back to, so that I haven't forgotten anything. Hmm... maybe there is a use for these things. Maybe they are a way of remembering that which shall be forgotten in time. Now, back to the first post to copy that sheet... AWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!

[Zazega]

...ookay, there's quite an argument going on here, it seems *edges away*

i'd just like to say thank you for creating such an awesome character sheet! it always helps me to get an idea of who i'm working with, and i think this will do just the thing smile i'd post what i've filled in, but i'm too paranoid about people stealing my characters ninja

[MajKai Nis is a Ninja Jew]

Ryiel

MajKai Nis rides again

here's a tip, junior: the only person in this forum qualified to flame my a** is me. so.

i wish my head was so far up my a** that i gave a s**t.

and, yes, you've done a great job of "ripp[ing my] argument to shreds"! good job!

well, i mean, you've done a great job if by "ripped to shreds" we mean "in no fundamental way addressed while merely re-presenting what others have already said." i would like to congratulate you on taking yourself so incredibly seriously that you managed to make it all the way to the point of assuming that your wording of the same old baseless argument would somehow be more special than the manner in which everyone else has stated it.

to address you and mianna (who was, quite frankly, more persuasive with her words than you've been with yours, big boy) at the same time, my argument is not one of LOL I DONT DU IT TAHT WAY SO U SHUDNT EITHER, which is, quite frankly, nothing but your argument's retarded cousin from detroit. as i thought i'd made pretty clear, i'm not interested in what people do. whether people do it or don't means precisely d**k to me. what i'm concerned with--and the grounds for everything i've said here--is an underlying philosophy of writing that you kids simply do not seem to grasp. at all. now, read closely:


STORY IS NOT DICTATED BY CHARACTER; CHARACTER IS DICTATED ENTIRELY BY STORY.

do not confuse "story" with "plot"; story, here, refers to the whole of the written composition.

i don't really think i can make it any clearer.

character sheets are a waste of time at best and fundamentally destructive at worst. normally, i don't give a s**t about the silly non-writing bullshit that's perpetuated in this forum, but this is highly akin to the "writing game" nonsense i felt compelled to punch in the digital throat a couple years ago. the ultimate point is the same, in fact: you cannot separate the elements of a story from the story itself and make the story better. period. the parts only function when applied to the whole, and it's ******** retarded to assume that any element--in this case, character--can be abstracted from the entirety of the story. when you start abstracting elements, it leads to idiotic notions--such as believing a character is more than a piece of the story in which it functions.

and that's simply not the case. as i've stated earlier in this thread. so.

i sincerely hope you're clear on just how silly your so-called "argument" appears. if you care to try this again and actually deal with the words i've typed, instead of sidestepping them to put forward the LOL BT IT HALPZ SUM PPL theory again, please feel free. if not, i recommend staying silent from here on out.

either way, definitely avoid further failed attempts to make me look like the wrong kind of a*****e.

You actually made me laugh. And I don't mean the kind where I chuckle here and there, I mean I had to get up and walk away from the computer just so I could breathe. You honestly are so high up on your pedastal that you can't even see the ground. Here a tip: get your head out of the clouds (And apparently your a**) and keep yourself grounded in reality.

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again: seriously: you ******** suck at trying to exert insulting wit into the dominion of both my person and my statement. stop trying to do it.


now. that said. etc.

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Now that said. Let's continue with my "flaming" as you so ineptly put it (considering I was commenting that I disagreed, what you have done is flamed, by attacking me as a person, and not my arguement. Go back and read again, then ask around for the real definition of flaming, then we can talk about it in a civilized manner.) Now, about the whole only you can flame yourself thing: What the hell does that mean? Do you mean to tell me you go around flaming yourself, that could lead to serious psychological issues in the future. And please, don't call me junior, for all you know I could be twice your age, which makes you look completely arrogant and pretentious.

1. i haven't flamed you, yet--unless the "real definition" of flaming is something along the lines of "totally dominated your so-called 'argument' with relative ease while waiting for you to come up with an actual argument that does more than attacking me while avoiding, at every turn, the argument i've presented."



i'm pretty sure that's not the "real definition."

2. again: hook, line, and sinker. stop taking the obviously silly as seriousness, champ.

3. i don't care how old you are, kid. i'll use the same terms for everyone, without regard to age--especially when the course of the person's posting shows simplistic, childlike thought and an unwillingness to explore complicated aspects of the writing process.

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Next on the list: if you are so unconcerned by what people do, why are you still posting here? And why do you bother to get so worked up about it?

you obviously didn't fully comprehend my statements. read that paragraph again. slowly. also read the other posts i've made in this thread.



i ain't really in the mood to repeat myself for someone who's making it fairly obvious he's just trying to stir s**t up and obtain "ultimate intranet badass" status (which can't be pulled with me, unfortunately for you) instead of addressing what i've actually said.

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I suggest you learn to control yourself, lest you look even more like an idiot than you already do. And I really do pity you. You are the entire definition of close-minded.

blah blah blah, more personal attacks, yada yada yada, more message-board power-posturing--



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The characters DRIVE the story, not the other way around. They are an aspect of the story that is just as important as the plot, and though I too believe they should never be separated from it in any way shape or form, I do not believe that the story shapes the characters. If, for arguments sake, my story has a strong emphasis on the psychological mindset of the character through their issues, which is more important: the character, or the plot. I'm betting nine of ten just answered character, so... how do I put this in terms you can understand... go F*** off.

wah wah wah. such butthurt.


but you finally responded (barely) to what i've said! this is a wonderful moment!


unfortunately, you're wrong. can't have characters without a story. i clearly stated that "story," in this case, did not refer to plot. the characters only exist to meet the needs of the story. you've in no way countered this statement; you've merely stated that you " do not believe" the rather obvious while ignoring what i clearly said. again. i wish you'd stop doing that.

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Which brings me to the next point, which is, why do you feel the need to curse and shout? That is what capital letters mean: shouting. Does it make you feel smart, or perhaps it makes you feel superior. In either case, it makes you look, not to be repetitive or anything but, arrogant with a side of stunted vocabulary.

i don't give a s**t. or a ********. or two flying pisses out a b***h's a*****e. i'm the only ******** in this thread who's presented complicated thought that goes beyond "YA WEL I LYK IT," so i ain't real concerned with all y'all's pissing and moaning about words.



jesus ******** christ. how do y'all purport to be writers if you're scared of and pissy about your own tools. 'cause that's all words are.


i just like the words. they're words.

grow the ******** up.

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Now for the grand finale. I don't need to make you look like an a**, becuae anyone who reads your words will come to the exact same conclusion that I did. (which just to make it perfectly clear, I wrote up top.) So, now, I believe I have dealt with your "words."

Please refrain from acting upon your arrogant and retarded impulses and continue to allow others to enjoy Gaia as a PG-13, flame free site. Honestly, I question your ability to comprehend what I've typed (see now I'm flaming) and would suggest that if you have any of those strong urges or desires, you reread my post from top to bottom at least three times. Then you might retain some of the information. Bye bye now. 3nodding

well, so far, you're the one attacking my person. so pretending it's the other way around ain't gonna do you a s**t-bit of good. you've continued to ignore what i've actually written, and you've continued to flame. and that's precisely all you've done.

after i address the incorrect s**t you've stated in my next post, i won't be responding to you from here on out unless you can bring yourself to respond to what i've said and not your altered pick-and-choose version of what i've said. you're beginning to bore me.



best of luck to you.

[x - Porcelain R o s e - x]

MajKai Nis rides again

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uhm.

yeah. i was. obviously. duh.

jesus, what an awkward moment.

Yeah I thought it was obvious too >.>

And the "I think..." was just me being polite and not trying to be too direct (though I ended up doing so anyway) sweatdrop . I knew you were just talking to me, lol. No need to feel awkward XP

Vinstepula

I just wanted to point out that, while people responded to him, they mostly jumped on him for swearing big time. No one but very few really looked at his issues, even then, no one took him seriously. But I do disagree, if he never wanted people to take him seriously, why would he keep responding? Attention? He did come in very strongly, so I do think his aim was to argue with people.

That's not what I saw. I saw people say he was wrong and then say that he was dumb for swearing. I know that you don't like swearing, but most of the people who had gotten on his case about it swear themselves on this forum.

If his mentality is anything like mine, he doesn't really care about people taking him seriously and this is all really just having fun. As long as I know that I'm right, in the end, I don't really care if anyone else believes me. I just find it fun to put my thoughts out there and talk about them because I don't really get to do that on a daily basis. The point is to just get my thought addressed and heard, not to get it understood.

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I don't think she meant that it was offending homosexuals or anything of that sort. If you pay someone a compliment, it is better to do it without insults in there. Of course it is up to how ever the person responds to it. I think the big issues that supernaturalist is aiming at is that there is a high lack of manners but a big load of hypocrisy and insulting.

Well, she said "but then, what more could you expect from someone who describes 'bad', 'lame' or 'stupid' things as being 'gay'" which basically implies that she was taking on that same ol' argument that using "gay" to mean "lame" is something moronic and immature when its simply just another unrelated meaning to the word.

I didn't see hypocrisy in his posts though I can see how you could say there was a lack of manners. But nonetheless, if no one had responded to his post in such an indignant manner, he wouldn't have progressively gotten worst. As you can see, he is quite capable of normal conversation if you don't respond to him with crazy rage and anger o_O.

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Overall, both sides of the argument fails for both MajKai and Supernaturalist. Maybe they made good points, or even gave correct information, but the way they are doing it is wrong. No one will listen to a person who is being downright rude. They will argue with them, but not really take their arguments seriously.

True...but there motives were different; one was being serious about this argument and the other wasn't. That usually just leads to nothing but trouble in the end.

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Think at what we could have develop in this forum. Instead of sticking to one side (Characters sheets are useless or They are useful.) Someone could have been discussing what parts of it were useless and fixing it up so that it will be a good thing in the end. Arguing over characters and stories is very pointless. (Ironically... if filling out character sheets is a useless time consuming thing, then why are they arguing on here? It is even more useless compared to character sheets. xd ) Because in the end... you can't have a good story without good characters, and you can't have good characters without a good story.

Lol. That is very true. Which is why I said overall, this was all a huge waste of time. I'm sure we all see the irony in that. But then again, this IS a discussion forum and arguments are often part of discussion. So unless we're going to say that Gaia in itself is a big waste of time (it is) and call all of us hypocrites, there's no real point in making the "they're wasting time arguing about wasting time" argument...though its still ironic nonetheless, lol.

Ryiel

Um... I generally don't like to disagree with you Si, but nobody jumped to contradict him. He layed out his argument, and we (as a group) laid out ours and used his argument against him. That is academic debate. He then proceeded to oppose everyone on his crusade of justice and holiness and threw his little flames at everyone.

I didn't see him flaming anyone until people started flaming him to be honest.

And if you think that he is being so wrong in the way that he's posting, then why exactly are you doing the exact same thing that he is doing? You are being just as mean and rude as he is.

[MajKai Nis is a Ninja Jew]

Ryiel

Um... I generally don't like to disagree with you Si, but nobody jumped to contradict him. He layed out his argument, and we (as a group) laid out ours and used his argument against him. That is academic debate. He then proceeded to oppose everyone on his crusade of justice and holiness and threw his little flames at everyone.

BULL ******** s**t.


i want to make that entirely clear. and this point:

you still haven't addressed my actual argument.



and i want to note again: i haven't been flaming people. so. you're full of s**t on that count, and ******** that s**t. pretending that i've broken ToS doesn't give any further merit to your shitty logic and avoidance of what i've said, so just cut that s**t out. it's unfair to me.


thanks in advance.





as for the rest of your post: i'm uninterested in your speculation about my life, your flaming, and your obvious lack of understanding in the areas of argumentation, human interaction, proper spelling, and proper grammar. i'm happy you're laughing. i've been amused; otherwise i wouldn't play along.


but i'm uninterested in trying to make my e-c**k look bigger than yours. it's been fun, but that's all i have to say.




peace out, kiddo.

[Lord Tezzy]

Well, finished the second one. This thing actually forced be to create ideas about him, and situations where I could show his personality are already flowing through my head. Too bad that part of the series isn't here right, and I need chronology. Again, I thought it was fun. Thanks for the character sheet. I've stored it in my computer (but I put it in a folder, and forgot which folder. I HAVE AT LEAST A HUNDRED FOLDERS IN THE MY DOCUMENTS SECTIONS crying ) Oh well, I'll find it eventually, or else I'll have to destroy this computer... twisted Well, not really.

PS: LadySi, I know. I was attempting to make a point, but it seems to have failed... miserably. Oh well, what can this one do...

[apiyo]

Cool sheet, my eyes glazed over when I saw it. Addressing the usefulness of charts as it relates to me, I already use character sheets(not this detailed), have been for years, and I find them helpful for my comics(le gasp, who'd a thunk it surprised ). I started forgetting characters and had to right them down and keep my stories straight. Some of the questions are irrevelant, but they can be omitted. This is a really good way to check for Sue's and characters that are just flat.

[Ravitacus]

I applaud you. Quite nicely detailed.