Gummi-Arms
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- Posted: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 08:20:41 +0000
Okay, maybe its just me, but I can't seem to go more than a week (if that) before I hear about someone's plans to make a story about a half-demon something or other who happens to be the long lost daughter of the King of Demons. Or some such thing.
I'm not here to discourage this line of thinking ENTIRELY. Mystic Half-breeds do have their place, and can shine if used properly. There is nothing INHERENTLY wrong with them in most cases. Like anything else, they have their pros and cons. The problem arises when every boy and his dog happnes to be a half-something. And a princess. etc. (especially if it really is a boy...) Or, more or less, when people use them thoughtlessly, as an excuse for wierd hair colors and special powers.
If you are going to use them as an excuse for wierd hair and/or special powers, at least think things through.
What I do intend to do, is to make sure that people can make an informed decision of whether or not such a character is a good move or not.
However, bear in mind that I'm not in an entirely reasonable mood at the moment, so this may come off as a little harsh.
Sueishness: Mystic halfbreeds tend to generate a lot of mary sue type characters. For those of you who have used them and not made a sue, I apologize. But I feel it necessary to at least comment on the risk involved here.
What you have here is the potential for a character to be more than human while still being very much human. You have poeple who may or may not be able to pass off as 'normal' while having access to a great deal of supernatural powers, plus possible guidance from supernatural parents. This is a deadly combination. It doesn't get any better when you have people constantly making prophesies about their characters.
I think a touch of common sense can alleviate much of this problem, though. A lot of it simply boils down to consequences. Like any other character, you must explore the consequences of every aspect of your character. If supernatural beings can breed with mortals in your world, then what are the consequences? What are the consequences for your character's parents? What are the consequences your character has to face? (Racism comes to mind but sadly isn't often done properly.)
Implications: One must consider the implications of using halfbreeds within a story. Because there are radical implications both globally and immediately.
First of all, the existence of such a character proves the existence of two races. Or demons and angels. Or vampires. or whatever. You get the point. But this should have a big effect on the world at large. If you have two races, then how do they interract? Given the way humans interract with each-other in the real world... well... it probably won't be pretty.
In the case of a religiously based character, this problem takes an entirely different face. Congratualtions, your character has just proven the existence of God. Or the Devil. There goes the atheists. So, you have to bear in mind the effect that this will have on people's perceptions of religion. Also, your character might not be well liked by religious extremists from a different religion (assuming one exists now that the existence of your God has been proven.) Although warring pantheons might be an interesting premise, I doubt that was what you had in mind when you made the character.
Also, at some point you have to address the problem that your character is probably not the first halfbreed born, and will probably not be the last. How many half-breeds are there, in fact? Bear in mind that as the population of either species expands, so does the potential for half-breeds between them. Want to make a war between them to reduce the populations? But you have just created the perfect breeding environment for more! (And resentful ones at that) Or... have they become so prolific that they have since become like a race unto themselves? In our modern world, even if the popluation of half-breeds was 1% of the world population, they would number in the hundreds of millions. Imagine what a hundred million half-elves could do if they got riled up and decided to make their own place in the world.
In a more immediate sense, you have to explore the personal implications of what it means to be a half-breed. I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this, but once again, common sense is important here. You have to consider the kind of family life the character has. Was the character raised by the 'normal' parent? The supernatural parent? Both? How does the local community react to this? How does this reaction affect the character? (If I had a penny for every time a half-breed was exiled from his/her community... What happened to good old fashioned witch burning and crucifixion. For that matter, if your not using a christian theology, as in Jesus doesn't exist in your world, then there should be no reason why it wouldn't be used in your typical fantasy setting save in favor of gorier methods of execution.)
Anyway... you have to consider both sides of the coin. Yes, people may not like your character because he/she is different. But, if that character is really bestowed with immense supernatural powers, people may also want to make use of that character's abilities. (This can take on a lot of different aspects.) Or alternatively, the character may force the community to accept him/her. If the character is really a nigh-unstoppable power-house, why would he tolerate people looking down on him? Most people would feel justified beating up someone who left a burning cross (for a bad example) on his door-step. (Not to mention the potential for making oneself a tyrant or false god.)
For that matter, make the benefit a character receives from supernatural parentage realistic to the setting. In all likelihood, when interbred with a weaker race, the offspring will have powers in between the two extremes of the parents. The child will be stronger than the normal race, but weaker than the special race.
Tacking on the titles: It seems to me that a lot of people think that any half-breed must automatically come from royalty as well. I find this to be particularly annoying. Even more-so when it is a lost princess that has to go on a quest to reclaim her rightful throne. This is rarely done right.
I suppose I can't refute the concept. This goes way back to Greek mythology, with Zeus sleeping with anyone he could, and whatnot. But at least think the titles through as well. Just because the character happens to be the daughter of the local lord doesn't make her a princess. It depends on the king, and how the character came to be. And even if the character is legitimate and accepted by the people, that doesn't necessarily make her the heiress to the throne.
Naturally, things will seldomly go smoothly. The first hurdle to cross is whether or not the character is even legitimate. (especially if we're talking in terms of non-human societies, or cultural taboos) It isn't hard to imagine a king sneaking out of his castle for some pleasurable company in the evening. What is hard to imagine is the court taking the illegitamately concieved child seriously when she comes claiming to be the heir to the throne.
Another problem is that anyone who sees this illigitimate offspring as a potential threat to their power/ability to take the throne will undoubtedly try to kill said character.
Then you get to the problems of social acceptance. Because if the character is not accepted by the people, odds are she won't be taking the throne any time soon. And if she does, poeple are not going to like it. They might even revolt. Especially if stirred on by unscrupulous advisors. This is going to be an even bigger problem if the character is also from a race that the local populace has reason to despise. (Demons, for example.) And if your character is supposed to be taking the throne of demon-kind... well. This is just an opinion of mine, so take it how you like, but I think that the game Disgaea: Hour of Darkness had a good take on how politicts would work within a demonic society. For all of its cartooniness, it made some good points. One thing I can tell you: Most demons are not going to tolerate someone who is lovey-dovey and wants to bring peace and happiness to the universe. They are more likely to support someone who advocates going on a huge rampage, killing off or corrupting humanity, and taking heaven by force. If you feel that demons are not like this, you have probably been watching too much anime, and I would refer you vieve's thread on angels and demons without religion. The plus side, though, is that your character does not have to worry about acceptance as much as keeping his/her followers in line.
Another problem the character may have is getting either parent to accept them, especially if they were unwanted to begin with. And then the immediate family. Once again, titles can be a big problem here, especially if the other children the king has sees your character as a threat. Also, if your king was sleeping around town, then he probably has a LOT of illegitimate offspring. Your character is not the only one.
But my character has a special purpose: I've always disliked stories where the character is the chosen one meant to save the world. I suppose what it really comes down to is the saving the world part. I could go on all day about what is wrong with that, but I won't. I'll just say that stories tend to be more compelling when the characters have human problems. Unfortunately, it's another thing that mystic half-breeds are commonly associated with.
Or just a grand destiny in general, I suppose. People think that their character is special, so he must have a special destiny. I prefer to think of things differently. If the character is supposed to be fulfilling some grand destiny... well... why? What is the problem the character is supposed to solve? Who benefits from it? Who is pulling the strings and how? How will the character's success affect the world at large? How did the circumstances get to be such that the character was necessary? Who is opposed to the character fulfilling this destiny, and why?
It raises a lot of questions. But if you are claiming your character exists for a purpose, you do have to answer those kinds of questions. Otherwise the world will not make sense to the reader. Another big question you might want to ask yourself is what happens if the character fails or decides not to fulfill his/her destiny. (wouldn't that be a novel concept?)
Now, here's where the last few paragraphs become relevant to the topic. If you are intent upon using a half-breed character to fulfill a special purpose, then why was it necessary for the powers that be to arrange for the chosen one to be a half-breed? If there is no particular reason for it, you cannot justify your character being a half-breed by using this argument.
Okay, I feel a little better now that I've gotten all that out of my system. Hopefully this might even make a difference. Not holding my breath though.
Anyone who want to add anything to this, or (reasonably and civilly) argue over it is welcome to do so. I probably missed quite a few things and made a few errors, so its up to you to fix it.
I'm not here to discourage this line of thinking ENTIRELY. Mystic Half-breeds do have their place, and can shine if used properly. There is nothing INHERENTLY wrong with them in most cases. Like anything else, they have their pros and cons. The problem arises when every boy and his dog happnes to be a half-something. And a princess. etc. (especially if it really is a boy...) Or, more or less, when people use them thoughtlessly, as an excuse for wierd hair colors and special powers.
If you are going to use them as an excuse for wierd hair and/or special powers, at least think things through.
What I do intend to do, is to make sure that people can make an informed decision of whether or not such a character is a good move or not.
However, bear in mind that I'm not in an entirely reasonable mood at the moment, so this may come off as a little harsh.
Sueishness: Mystic halfbreeds tend to generate a lot of mary sue type characters. For those of you who have used them and not made a sue, I apologize. But I feel it necessary to at least comment on the risk involved here.
What you have here is the potential for a character to be more than human while still being very much human. You have poeple who may or may not be able to pass off as 'normal' while having access to a great deal of supernatural powers, plus possible guidance from supernatural parents. This is a deadly combination. It doesn't get any better when you have people constantly making prophesies about their characters.
I think a touch of common sense can alleviate much of this problem, though. A lot of it simply boils down to consequences. Like any other character, you must explore the consequences of every aspect of your character. If supernatural beings can breed with mortals in your world, then what are the consequences? What are the consequences for your character's parents? What are the consequences your character has to face? (Racism comes to mind but sadly isn't often done properly.)
Implications: One must consider the implications of using halfbreeds within a story. Because there are radical implications both globally and immediately.
First of all, the existence of such a character proves the existence of two races. Or demons and angels. Or vampires. or whatever. You get the point. But this should have a big effect on the world at large. If you have two races, then how do they interract? Given the way humans interract with each-other in the real world... well... it probably won't be pretty.
In the case of a religiously based character, this problem takes an entirely different face. Congratualtions, your character has just proven the existence of God. Or the Devil. There goes the atheists. So, you have to bear in mind the effect that this will have on people's perceptions of religion. Also, your character might not be well liked by religious extremists from a different religion (assuming one exists now that the existence of your God has been proven.) Although warring pantheons might be an interesting premise, I doubt that was what you had in mind when you made the character.
Also, at some point you have to address the problem that your character is probably not the first halfbreed born, and will probably not be the last. How many half-breeds are there, in fact? Bear in mind that as the population of either species expands, so does the potential for half-breeds between them. Want to make a war between them to reduce the populations? But you have just created the perfect breeding environment for more! (And resentful ones at that) Or... have they become so prolific that they have since become like a race unto themselves? In our modern world, even if the popluation of half-breeds was 1% of the world population, they would number in the hundreds of millions. Imagine what a hundred million half-elves could do if they got riled up and decided to make their own place in the world.
In a more immediate sense, you have to explore the personal implications of what it means to be a half-breed. I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this, but once again, common sense is important here. You have to consider the kind of family life the character has. Was the character raised by the 'normal' parent? The supernatural parent? Both? How does the local community react to this? How does this reaction affect the character? (If I had a penny for every time a half-breed was exiled from his/her community... What happened to good old fashioned witch burning and crucifixion. For that matter, if your not using a christian theology, as in Jesus doesn't exist in your world, then there should be no reason why it wouldn't be used in your typical fantasy setting save in favor of gorier methods of execution.)
Anyway... you have to consider both sides of the coin. Yes, people may not like your character because he/she is different. But, if that character is really bestowed with immense supernatural powers, people may also want to make use of that character's abilities. (This can take on a lot of different aspects.) Or alternatively, the character may force the community to accept him/her. If the character is really a nigh-unstoppable power-house, why would he tolerate people looking down on him? Most people would feel justified beating up someone who left a burning cross (for a bad example) on his door-step. (Not to mention the potential for making oneself a tyrant or false god.)
For that matter, make the benefit a character receives from supernatural parentage realistic to the setting. In all likelihood, when interbred with a weaker race, the offspring will have powers in between the two extremes of the parents. The child will be stronger than the normal race, but weaker than the special race.
Tacking on the titles: It seems to me that a lot of people think that any half-breed must automatically come from royalty as well. I find this to be particularly annoying. Even more-so when it is a lost princess that has to go on a quest to reclaim her rightful throne. This is rarely done right.
I suppose I can't refute the concept. This goes way back to Greek mythology, with Zeus sleeping with anyone he could, and whatnot. But at least think the titles through as well. Just because the character happens to be the daughter of the local lord doesn't make her a princess. It depends on the king, and how the character came to be. And even if the character is legitimate and accepted by the people, that doesn't necessarily make her the heiress to the throne.
Naturally, things will seldomly go smoothly. The first hurdle to cross is whether or not the character is even legitimate. (especially if we're talking in terms of non-human societies, or cultural taboos) It isn't hard to imagine a king sneaking out of his castle for some pleasurable company in the evening. What is hard to imagine is the court taking the illegitamately concieved child seriously when she comes claiming to be the heir to the throne.
Another problem is that anyone who sees this illigitimate offspring as a potential threat to their power/ability to take the throne will undoubtedly try to kill said character.
Then you get to the problems of social acceptance. Because if the character is not accepted by the people, odds are she won't be taking the throne any time soon. And if she does, poeple are not going to like it. They might even revolt. Especially if stirred on by unscrupulous advisors. This is going to be an even bigger problem if the character is also from a race that the local populace has reason to despise. (Demons, for example.) And if your character is supposed to be taking the throne of demon-kind... well. This is just an opinion of mine, so take it how you like, but I think that the game Disgaea: Hour of Darkness had a good take on how politicts would work within a demonic society. For all of its cartooniness, it made some good points. One thing I can tell you: Most demons are not going to tolerate someone who is lovey-dovey and wants to bring peace and happiness to the universe. They are more likely to support someone who advocates going on a huge rampage, killing off or corrupting humanity, and taking heaven by force. If you feel that demons are not like this, you have probably been watching too much anime, and I would refer you vieve's thread on angels and demons without religion. The plus side, though, is that your character does not have to worry about acceptance as much as keeping his/her followers in line.
Another problem the character may have is getting either parent to accept them, especially if they were unwanted to begin with. And then the immediate family. Once again, titles can be a big problem here, especially if the other children the king has sees your character as a threat. Also, if your king was sleeping around town, then he probably has a LOT of illegitimate offspring. Your character is not the only one.
But my character has a special purpose: I've always disliked stories where the character is the chosen one meant to save the world. I suppose what it really comes down to is the saving the world part. I could go on all day about what is wrong with that, but I won't. I'll just say that stories tend to be more compelling when the characters have human problems. Unfortunately, it's another thing that mystic half-breeds are commonly associated with.
Or just a grand destiny in general, I suppose. People think that their character is special, so he must have a special destiny. I prefer to think of things differently. If the character is supposed to be fulfilling some grand destiny... well... why? What is the problem the character is supposed to solve? Who benefits from it? Who is pulling the strings and how? How will the character's success affect the world at large? How did the circumstances get to be such that the character was necessary? Who is opposed to the character fulfilling this destiny, and why?
It raises a lot of questions. But if you are claiming your character exists for a purpose, you do have to answer those kinds of questions. Otherwise the world will not make sense to the reader. Another big question you might want to ask yourself is what happens if the character fails or decides not to fulfill his/her destiny. (wouldn't that be a novel concept?)
Now, here's where the last few paragraphs become relevant to the topic. If you are intent upon using a half-breed character to fulfill a special purpose, then why was it necessary for the powers that be to arrange for the chosen one to be a half-breed? If there is no particular reason for it, you cannot justify your character being a half-breed by using this argument.
Okay, I feel a little better now that I've gotten all that out of my system. Hopefully this might even make a difference. Not holding my breath though.
Anyone who want to add anything to this, or (reasonably and civilly) argue over it is welcome to do so. I probably missed quite a few things and made a few errors, so its up to you to fix it.