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Welcome fellow Gaian Goths!

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I'm Ralo btw, so feel free to call me that. emotion_yatta

This is something I've wanted to do for a long time and here we are now.
So this is just gonna be a regular hangout thread. You don't need to only post about goth related things but it's for sure encouraged that you share any gothy delights with us here if you like.
Feel free to have casual conversation here and maybe we can all make some new friends!

I'd like to keep this a safe and chill space so there will be a few rules listed below.

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Definitions of goth
πŸ’€ Goth = Relating to music, fashion and style.
πŸ’€ Gothic = Relating to architecture, dark literature and dark ornate design.
πŸ’€ Gothy = An endearing term meaning something is goth friendly.
Goth IS NOT Conservative | Goth Without Soul

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11/15/24: Beat original goth thread by being active for 11 years.

5/11/24: Get submissions for Goth Avatar Favorites Collection.

7/1/23: Get submissions for goth playlists.

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β˜₯ Introduction / Updates / Milestones β˜₯

β˜₯ Rules β˜₯

β˜₯ Activities / Avatars β˜₯

β˜₯ Links β˜₯

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- What started goth?
In a sense, goth has always been, it just hasn't always been labeled as such. Goth being an interest based subculture means it has always been. There have always been those who were drawn to the darker things in life. However, the goth movement and subculture began in the UK during the early 1980s. It was developed by fans of gothic rock, an offshoot of the post-punk music genre. Post-punk artists who presaged the gothic rock genre and helped develop and shape the subculture include Siouxsie and the Banshees, Bauhaus, the Cure, and Joy Division.

- Is goth a music based subculture?
Yes as music started the movement and the modern fashion. However, it's also interest based which is how I usually refer to it as there's so much more to it than just music.

- What makes goth music goth?
"Gothic rock stood out due to its darker sound, with the use of primarily minor or bass chords, reverb, dark arrangements, or dramatic and melancholic melodies, having inspirations in gothic literature allied with themes such as sadness, nihilism, dark romanticism, tragedy, melancholy and morbidity." [x]

- What makes someone goth?
It's a debated topic as some say "you are only goth if you listen to the music." I however disagree with that as there is far more to the subculture than just music. The music is a big part of it but to be goth so to speak, one has to also partake in the subculture and have an interest in it by enjoying the style and the over all aesthetics. If one self identifies as goth for having these collection of interests, then one simply is. To be goth we don't always have to look the part as in some cases it's simply not feasible due to work requirements, financial reasons or other.

- What is "Darkly Inclined?"
This is a term that some goths use to describe other goths who are not as into the music. It's actually a bit derogatory as it plays into the juvenile "you're not goth enough" debacle. 'Darkly inclined' literally means goth without calling it goth ie, one who's drawn to things of a darker nature. This is the whole "trying to take the goth out of goth" charade which some have been trying to pull that is mainly seen on several goth YouTube channels. If one chooses to identify themself as "darkly inclined" rather than goth, that's their choice but we wont be having anyone in this community pull any bs telling someone they are or aren't something as such. To read more on this check under the Links section below.

- What is a poser?
I've heard some say that 'if a goth is an a*****e that they are a poser.' This is not true as goths can be anything anyone else can be and being something other than goth doesn't make one "less goth" or a "poser." Being goth is about liking a subset of common interests such as the music and fashion. Being rude or what have you does not make someone's interests change. The literal definition of poser is "a person who acts in an affected manner in order to impress others." The only way one is a poser is if they are only putting on a charade to fool or manipulate others.

- What about things being labeled goth that are not?
I'm at the age where I don't really care as I see it as unimportant. So long as someone isn't saying it's a "kink" or is something "harmful" I'm not going to be bothered what some rando online says. As for random bands or celebrities carelessly getting called 'goth', it's not relevant and it's not hurting anything. If someone comes here or in another one of our communities or spaces saying such things, we can politely and respectfully correct them. As for getting overly upset over a common misconceptions or the age old Marylin Manson isn't goth debacle, it's unimportant and shouldn't matter. Most of us are elder goths and already know the basics and we are mature enough to not get butt hurt over trivial things. Furthermore, no one will be attacked here for simple and common mistakes or misunderstandings. Throwing a temper tantrum or being rude to others is not what our community represents.

- What about elitism, gatekeeping and other goth drama?
I am absolutely not having any of it in any community of mine. We will absolutely not partake in any drama what so ever. It is negative, toxic and it can suck the life out of some of us who already have enough issues and mental struggles. No one here will be acting rude to anyone else at all. We are mature and respectful to all those who deserve it. We are also happy to inform anyone who has questions or confusions about our subculture and we will do so kindly and respectfully. Kindness, acceptance and understanding is what most of us stand for. At the same time we will call out any bs in some instances if the need should arise.

- What is alternative?
Alternative is an umbrella term used to describe a wide variety of subcultures such as goth, emo, punk, metalhead, rivethead and so on. It is also what those who are taking part in one of the aforementioned subcultures identify as when they choose not to identify with any "label" as they so often put it. Alternative people often incorporate many fashion accessories with their look that are commonly used in goth, punk and other looks such as spiked bracelets, collars, black combat boots etc. Alternative people also often have various tattoos, piercings, and unnaturally colored hair. Video

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To clarify, this is going to be a chill and comfy space for like minded individuals. You don't need to jump through any hoops to be here or to be goth in general. We will not be doing "this is goth and this isn't goth" here. Most of us already know how things are and are sick of hearing all the childish griping. Most of us are old and mature enough to know better by now anyways. If you simply like and enjoy the subculture, you are one of us!

You don't have to do anything other than that. That's all there is to it. It's understandable that not everyone is able to afford the clothes, or have the means to go to clubs in all that and it doesn't make us any lesser than anyone else. All that matters is we all are part of this subculture simply by having similar interests and mindsets.

This can also be a space for other alternative groups too such as punk and emo as a lot of us alternatives tend to go hand in hand. We can all have different opinions, different fancies, and don't have to agree on everything but key thing is, we are respectful, understanding and accepting towards one another. Us alternative folk need to stick together after all. '_~

So lets just let this be a nice chill space for us all to hangout, share interests, shoot the s**t and so on. Tell us about your day, your dreams, whatever the hell. And feel free to bump!

Note:
I do not plan on making a Discord Server for this thread. Everything is already on Discord and I like having this thread just as it is. It's nostalgic and I like the simpler aspect to it.

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2/1/25: Official Goth Avatar Collection now organized into categories.

7/7/24: Discord Server section added.

7/6/24: Facebook Links added.

6/27/24: Thread Art added.

6/26/24: FAQ added.

5/28/24: Created thread for goth avatar collection.

6/7/24: New music link added, music section rearranged.

5/4/24: New music link added.

5/15/24: Goals, Milestones added.

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11/15/24: Beat Old Goth Thread by getting 10,989 replies / 734 pages. 🏴

9/1/24: 10,000 pages reached. 🏴

8/31/24: 666 pages reached. 🏴

8/6/24: Reached 1,000 poll votes. 🏴

7/6/24: Completed 'goth' avatar search in Favorites. Went through 555 pages of avatars, 35,146 avatars and added over 1k to the Goth Favroites Collection. 🏴

6/24/24: 200 goths voted in the poll. 🏴

6/19/24: Reached 500 pages. 🏴

6/18/24: Reached 666 poll votes. 🏴

6/18/24: We were featured on Gaia's Homepage! 🏴

6/9/24: 1,000 goth avatars collected. 🏴

5/28/24: Collection for goth avatars started. 🏴

12/5/23 - 5/11/24: 500+ votes reached for thread poll. 🏴

7/1/23 - 12/5/23: Original pole reached 500+ votes. 🏴

7/1/23 - 9/29/23: Found Goth Blog from 2012. 🏴

8/14/23: Reached 100 pages. 🏴

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(If you get blocked but didn't read these here, it's on you. This is a large, drama free community and in order to keep things peaceful, we have a specific set of guidelines. Anyone found ignoring them will be blocked.)

- Follow Gaia TOS.

- Be respectful.

- Weird fetish accounts are blocked on sight. (A common one we get here is 'inflation'. I give no ******** if it's 'harmless', it's weird, I don't have to be comfortable with it and if you're not okay with that, block me.)

- Sexism will not be tolerated here. (If you hate on men/women, leave.)

- No goth hate/infighting. (Goth Karens are not welcome here.) [x]

- Keep controversial topics out of here, ie religious speak and politics. [rant]

- Conservatives are not welcome here. (See link on op under goth definitions.)

- This is not a place for RP. (Not even in small amounts.)

- No petty Gaia drama. (If you have an issue with a user, feel free to PM me.)

- When it comes to venting, pace yourself and do not continually unload nonstop to where it brings others down.
(We feel for you but we aren't professionals here.)

- If there's any trolls pls just ignore them. (I will block them and delete their posts asap.)

- No mules. Posts by mule accounts will be deleted and possibly blocked due to stalkers and other weirdos. (This includes bumper accs which are mules that only post in bump threads.)

- This also isn't a hangout space for bump accounts either. (Posts from accs that only post bumps in bump threads will be deleted and blocked if it persists.)

- For the love of ********, don't even start with the 'goth gf' memes or 'be my goth mommy' crap. It's creepy and wont be tolerated here.

- That being said, anyone coming in here looking for "baddies, dommies," portraying themselves as such or any other dumb demeaning s**t will be instantly blocked. Keep in mind this is a PG13 website and it is weird to come here acting all over sexualized. Furthermore we do not adhere to those trying to fetishize our subculture. Yes we are aware 'kink' is a thing and have no issue with that but there's a time and place for such things and this ain't it. [rant]
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- What is the goth mindset? -
See here an entry I've written and share your thoughts on the topic.

- Nostalgic in the Subculture -
Share anything related to the subculture that you find nostalgia in. Can be videos, music videos, crafting, diy, art, literally anything that makes you feel nostalgic relating to the subculture. It may get posted on the first page! Here is where the lists will get added with mine.

- Goth Thread Art
If you would like to contribute fan art to represent our thread, feel free to submit some.
Just make sure it doesn't go against any of the thread's TOS or Gaia's.


- Collect & Share Goth Avatars
Make a favorites collection of your own goth/alternative avatars and share the link! It will be posted down below in the links of interest section!

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Official Goth Thread Collection
Goth |Cyber Goth | Pastel Goth | Victorian Goth | Gothic Lolita |
Romantic Goth | Witchy/Whimsi Goth | Gothic | Spooky
(I may add new categories such as Deathrock if I find enough avis for it. For now extras like that will just go in Goth.)

C h i k a r i B e a n's Collection

Dream Ghoul's Collection

Ralo's Personal Avatars

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- Goth Avatar Collection Thread -
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Users who commonly make cool goth avis:

Gothor Salvator | Sinful Goth | The Blvck Horned | not so punk | skvllkid | elihec | Dream Ghoul | Sadismancer | m00shy | Avaline Fitheach | Marrms | Ingrid Sinclaire | xEllieRose | PIaguecore | bloodwitch
(If you make a lot of goth avatars and would like a shoutout lmk!)
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(More can be added later. If you'd like to submit anything Gaia friendly feel free to lmk. Feel free to share any goth music playlists you may know of that are appropriate for Gaia such as legit music sites like Spotify or YouTube.)

>> What is Goth? <<
>> What is Subculture | What is Goth | Why Does it Matter <<
What Ever Happened to Goth?
the evolution of goths in pop culture
Ralo & Mouse [Experience in the Goth Subculture] What got me and my sis into goth
Some goth looks - thanks to Like a Leaf on the Wind for finding and sharing.
The Goth vs "Darkly Inclined" Debacle
My Thoughts on Goth on Social Media
Goth Suppression
Stereotypical Goth Cynicism
Goth Memes
Definitions of Goth and Validity
Ralo's Goth Blog Master Post

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- Gaian Links -

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πŸŒˆπŸ‘»Free Pride Ghosties & Skulls πŸ’€πŸŒˆ
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Gaia Upgrade | zOMG! Discord Server | Mini Gaia Guide For New Users
Whats That Item? | Unlisted Items | Chatterbox Rally Meets | Gaian NPC Stream Avatars

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πŸ’€πŸŽ§ Music πŸŽ§πŸ’€

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πŸ•ΈοΈπŸŽ΅ - Goth - πŸŽ΅πŸ•ΈοΈ
Pandora Goth Radio

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🎡User Image - Cyber Goth - User Image🎡
Aggrotech Station - Pandora
Industrial Radio - Pandora
Dark Electro Radio - Pandora

πŸ’€ Spotify Playlists πŸ’€

Goth / Industrial / Rock - Loki Iago

πŸ¦‡πŸ–€ - Gothic - πŸ–€πŸ¦‡
Dark Gothic Atmosphere - KitsunariSoleil
Dark Instrumentals - KitsunariSoleil

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User Image - Goth Discord Servers - User Image

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- Goth Shops -

Forest Ink Clothing
10 Best Goth Sites 2023
Goth Clothing Shops Masterpost by Kafkaesque_Meat

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- Goth Facebook Pages -

Gothic Beauty Magazine - Magazine
Something Special Goth and Dark - Interest
Attitude Clothing Co. - Clothing Shop
darkgothicaiart - AI Generated Images
Gothic & Enchanted - Social Media Company
Goth ghost - Blog
Darker than black - Entertainment website
The Nocturnal Cult - Entertainment website
The Gothic Tea Society - Society & culture website
Orphea - YouTuber
Gothic Home & Garden - Home Decor
What is Goth? Website - Society & culture website
Gothic Lifestyle - Home Decor
Gothic Culture - Standard
Gothic Charm School by Jillian Venters - Society & culture website

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- Actual Decent Goth SubReddit -

r/AllThatIsGoth
(Music + Fashion) Submitted by Mischief And Misery

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- Goth Channel Recs -

YouTube
LilBattyGoth - Media Archivist, vlog
xohmygoth - Vlog
JayneGoth - Vlog
Meditations for the anxious mind - Podcast, gimmicky, comedy
_crustbag_ - Nostalgia, mix
It's Black Friday - Fashion, beauty, vlog
Orphea - Vlog, reviews, tips
The Lair of Voltaire - Mix
Cemetery Confessions - Informative / Podcasts
K. J. Rasa - Informative
Gothic Charm School - Informative
Of Herbs and Alters - Vlog
Rattus Rattus - DIY
DramaKween - Modern goth misconceptions
KreePeetZ - Reaction, Vlog
Ralodosmovo - Me! Chatting, Art, Retro Games, Classic Tomb Raider

Twitch
KreePeetz - Chatting, Gaming
Brutal Sue - Chatting, Horror Gamer
xiPastel - Chatting, Gamer
Penumbra_Von_Arkh - Music
graemerz - Music
TheNewOrderMelb - Music
djEvange - Music
NurseGoth - Music
VoxSinistra - Music

Click here for massive YouTube recs list.

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- Cute, Fun & Other -

My Immortal Fanfic read by Internet Historian
"Is your child goth?" - 20 Year Old Goth Meme Video
Notable Quotes from Original Goth Thread
Goth Stereo Types - DeviantArt Page
Wiki Goth Collection - Wiki Page
Goth Media Characters - Goth Blog

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yesss! would love to meet some fellow alt people.

the goth gf memes annoy me too, especially since it's always posted by the people who would bully me and others in high school because we dressed "goth". you say you want a goth gf but, my brother in christ, you bullied us all in high school.

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I love the last one. As a member of the Big Titty Committee, those jokes get kinda old after a while.
Yeah some of us like em while others are bitter butts like me and get tired of the same old tired memes esp when it can get creepy and annoying after a while.


It also just boxes us into a stereotype.

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yesss! would love to meet some fellow alt people.

the goth gf memes annoy me too, especially since it's always posted by the people who would bully me and others in high school because we dressed "goth". you say you want a goth gf but, my brother in christ, you bullied us all in high school.
Same. I always love seeing fellow goths / alternative ppl. It makes me smile and giddy haha. If only I weren't too shy in person I'd approach them when I see them on rare occasions. Yeah those that usually say it just do because they see us as something of an "accessory". It's gross. I actually knew someone like that. >_>

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I love the last one. As a member of the Big Titty Committee, those jokes get kinda old after a while.
Yeah some of us like em while others are bitter butts like me and get tired of the same old tired memes esp when it can get creepy and annoying after a while.


It also just boxes us into a stereotype.
Yeah it does and it's the fetishising of us where they just see us as objects. Oh man I could go on a whole a** rant about how even just I've personally experienced stuff like that but I'd rather not rn. Just trying to chill for the moment. -o-

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Welcome welcome! Cool avi and cute sig pic. 3nodding

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