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I'm going to have to say I really don't think the limited ticket thing is a good idea for the site.

I know at least for me personally if it causes the tickets available to dry up more my interest in it will almost completely disappear, and I know a lot of users feel the same way.

As of yet nothing has been done to combat inflation or hoarding. And what was a stable creative outlet for users for three years has now been slowly drying up over the past few months. And it feels like its only getting worse.

Personally I miss the days where a user could play a couple hundred rigs and have a decent chance at pulling a ticket. You know what I don't see anymore? Rig streams. Theres no reason for them anymore either, and that was a big thing for people even 8 months ago.

I feel fairly certain tickets and the cash flow was stable the first year when they came out and pulling one out of a rig was rare but not that rare. It gave users something to be excited about and people would buy rigs up and play them for hours and hundreds of users would watch in anticipation.

It used to be a prize and worth something, it used to be exciting and people would spout about it for weeks if they pulled a ticket. Now its just 'oh I bought one' and cool and move on. Its a bit sad.

I agree that the extreme cash sales did spoil us. but the idea of 15 or so user recolors a month is even sadder I suppose. I guess I hope they find a healthy balance. Perhaps bring back the lqi rigs where one was a guaranteed ticket pull, something like that. It seems so businessy nowadays and I see waay too many people hoarding tickets and racking up prices.

Its just sad and I hope they find a healthy fix. I'll be honest though the first thing I thought of when I saw the limited ticket thing was that they were running short on cash and selling X amount of tickets to meet their quota came to mind. I sincerely hope its not that though. We're really not in for a good time if money management is that bad.



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Just to dispel the myths, I did address the situation here:
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/t.102279469_6/#6

tl;dr: 15 additional slots are opened without causing crazy amounts of backlog.

Then there is the concern over price, which is much harder to approach. sweatdrop

We completely understand that price was a big draw because they were inexpensive considering the product and quality, but those are the original prices of those tickets when they were introduced. When it came down to it, there was an epic disconnect between the artist team and management. That turned into us taking a serious loss when tickets were being sold super low when the cost of production on many of those items were a double, triple or more than what they were priced at in the strike-throughs.

In short, discounts will not return that will cause Project Tickets to drop passed 1/2 to 6/7ths of their original price straight out of La Victiore. That would not sustain the Project program. It goes hand-in-hand with this from January.

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wow those tix are expensive...

anyway here was the last price of the tix for reference to the rest:
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congrats also to all artists for finishing everything especially to Yuroppa who was there from the beginning (after Daria/milkbun of course)!!
congrats btw to all the recolors!!! :>
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Thank you for posting these! These are the kinds of "real" prices I'm talking about, and ones that still make the tickets valuable, but in a reasonable way that reflects the actual value of GC today. With these kind of prices, I would have splurged on a ticket last night. But instead, I'll keep waiting, I guess. Or maybe I should spend my tax return and teaching award on something less exorbitant, who knows? emo

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Just to dispel the myths, I did address the situation here:
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/t.102279469_6/#6

tl;dr: 15 additional slots are opened without causing crazy amounts of backlog.

Then there is the concern over price, which is much harder to approach. sweatdrop

Skippin' all the price stuff because I wasn't here for Black Friday this year, I've been sort of confused about the complaints. It does explain a lot about why the queue was so heavily backed up...

Anyway, permanent slots are one thing, but what about other means of obtaining tickets? Will we see more tickets released through avenues like Flynn's, or was this also taking a toll on artists?

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Just to dispel the myths, I did address the situation here:
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/t.102279469_6/#6

tl;dr: 15 additional slots are opened without causing crazy amounts of backlog.

Then there is the concern over price, which is much harder to approach. sweatdrop

Skippin' all the price stuff because I wasn't here for Black Friday this year, I've been sort of confused about the complaints. It does explain a lot about why the queue was so heavily backed up...

Anyway, permanent slots are one thing, but what about other means of obtaining tickets? Will we see more tickets released through avenues like Flynn's, or was this also taking a toll on artists?


That's up for debate still because it's so far into the month, but I can bring it up with the team! I just cannot make any promises about it because time is a big concern.

Specifically, any generated tickets will be subtracted from the 15qt/5qt total. This number is based on how many we can realistically create if all 20 were to be turned in within the first week of May to stay within our desired timetables.

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Yes, 20 is low! It's generously low in respect of the aforementioned timetables.

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Just to dispel the myths, I did address the situation here:
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/t.102279469_6/#6

tl;dr: 15 additional slots are opened without causing crazy amounts of backlog.

Then there is the concern over price, which is much harder to approach. sweatdrop

We completely understand that price was a big draw because they were inexpensive considering the product and quality, but those are the original prices of those tickets when they were introduced. When it came down to it, there was an epic disconnect between the artist team and management. That turned into us taking a serious loss when tickets were being sold super low when the cost of production on many of those items were a double, triple or more than what they were priced at in the strike-throughs.

In short, discounts will not return that will cause Project Tickets to drop them past 1/2 to 6/7ths of their original price straight out of La Victiore. That would not sustain the Project program. It goes hand-in-hand with this from January.

yum_strawberry


Thank you for posting this! I just want to bring up a few points that maybe you could pass along? If any of these concerns was also addressed elsewhere, please forgive me for beating a dead horse! sweatdrop

With the previous price of the tickets, the strike-through prices were also being done at the same time as 60-75% off GC, which obviously made the tickets hella cheap.

Everyone here understands that that was not sustainable and created a very large problem for the recolor team and for gaia financially. None of us want to see this happen again.

But one of the main concerns I've been noticing from the community is that while gcash has not gone on discount, the prices of things in the CS only seem to be getting higher, and are not adjusting to the return of actual GCash pricing. While the tickets themselves are being re-introduced at their original non-sale price, the fact remains that in this economy, it's just not justifiable to spend that kind of money on something that we are, at the end of the day, only renting.

Why not $350 dollars for an RT? That seems a fair price based on another ticket also currently in the shop: The Spring Couture Dye Ticket.

The Couture ticket is essentially a RT but with different release rules - it does the same exact thing with the same exact color block rules. With the added/increased drop rates on the recolor RIGs+the even increasing disinterest for user-recolors the rest of the community is showing, it's not even like we get that much more of a return on our recolors than in a Dye RIG. We get the same amount of copies of the item, the same amount of time to sell/gift our copies before the RIG turns out, and yet despite all this, we're asked to pay twice the amount.

As of this post, none of the tickets have sold, despite many people I know personally who could afford them, people who have been waiting patiently for the day tickets would be sold again in the CS - myself included - simply because the price isn't worth it at this point. And we can't even turn to the exchange because vendors are charging abysmally high prices there too. And if no one is buying these from the CS, not even the whales, that alone should send warning signs to someone that something is wrong with the pricing.

I love and respect the artists on this site a lot. They have never done wrong by me on a personal level, and I have always had a lot of respect for what they do and sympathize with the workload they've have to put up with for so long because of prior management. I love this new system of limited releases on direct CS purchases of tickets, and feel that is a great way to make sure that the work-load does not get that bad again.

They deserve to be paid accordingly for their work and for their patience on dealing with picky-a** customers like myself, and I am happy to spend my money on this site to help support them. Hence me putting in almost 90 hours this week so I can go buy another Couture ticket without affecting my own personal bottom line. However, I'm sorry to say this, but no likes being ripped off, and that's all I can see with the current pricing. I and many others will not be buying them for exactly that reason.

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Just to dispel the myths, I did address the situation here:
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/t.102279469_6/#6

tl;dr: 15 additional slots are opened without causing crazy amounts of backlog.

Then there is the concern over price, which is much harder to approach. sweatdrop

We completely understand that price was a big draw because they were inexpensive considering the product and quality, but those are the original prices of those tickets when they were introduced. When it came down to it, there was an epic disconnect between the artist team and management. That turned into us taking a serious loss when tickets were being sold super low when the cost of production on many of those items were a double, triple or more than what they were priced at in the strike-throughs.

In short, discounts will not return that will cause Project Tickets to drop them past 1/2 to 6/7ths of their original price straight out of La Victiore. That would not sustain the Project program. It goes hand-in-hand with this from January.

yum_strawberry


Thank you for posting this! I just want to bring up a few points that maybe you could pass along? If any of these concerns was also addressed elsewhere, please forgive me for beating a dead horse! sweatdrop

With the previous price of the tickets, the strike-through prices were also being done at the same time as 60-75% off GC, which obviously made the tickets hella cheap.

Everyone here understands that that was not sustainable and created a very large problem for the recolor team and for gaia financially. None of us want to see this happen again.

But one of the main concerns I've been noticing from the community is that while gcash has not gone on discount, the prices of things in the CS only seem to be getting higher, and are not adjusting to the return of actual GCash pricing. While the tickets themselves are being re-introduced at their original non-sale price, the fact remains that in this economy, it's just not justifiable to spend that kind of money on something that we are, at the end of the day, only renting.

Why not $350 dollars for an RT? That seems a fair price based on another ticket also currently in the shop: The Spring Couture Dye Ticket.

The Couture ticket is essentially a RT but with different release rules - it does the same exact thing with the same exact color block rules. With the added/increased drop rates on the recolor RIGs+the even increasing disinterest for user-recolors the rest of the community is showing, it's not even like we get that much more of a return on our recolors than in a Dye RIG. We get the same amount of copies of the item, the same amount of time to sell/gift our copies before the RIG turns out, and yet despite all this, we're asked to pay twice the amount.

As of this post, none of the tickets have sold, despite many people I know personally who could afford them, people who have been waiting patiently for the day tickets would be sold again in the CS - myself included - simply because the price isn't worth it at this point. And we can't even turn to the exchange because vendors are charging abysmally high prices there too. And if no one is buying these from the CS, not even the whales, that alone should send warning signs to someone that something is wrong with the pricing.

I love and respect the artists on this site a lot. They have never done wrong by me on a personal level, and I have always had a lot of respect for what they do and sympathize with the workload they've have to put up with for so long because of prior management. I love this new system of limited releases on direct CS purchases of tickets, and feel that is a great way to make sure that the work-load does not get that bad again.

They deserve to be paid accordingly for their work and for their patience on dealing with picky-a** customers like myself, and I am happy to spend my money on this site to help support them. Hence me putting in almost 90 hours this week so I can go buy another Couture ticket without affecting my own personal bottom line. And I'm sorry to say this, but no likes being ripped off, and that's all I can see with the current pricing.


We are aware of these concerns, but the big factor of the pricing is that it does take a lot to pay the people that create those items. The previous prices that were being paid prior-- which there was not much of a change between Black Friday and prior (Rainbow Tickets were 28900 Gaia Cash, and Double Rainbow tickets were 48900 Gaia Cash, long before Black Friday 2016)-- do not accurately portray how much each type of item costs to produce.

In contrast to the Dye Tickets, those prices are historic to the previous iterations, and we felt Spring needed time in the light. Though, the Dye Tickets will be reevaluated after this run. The prices are currently low because there are pre-selected schemes to pick from, whereas the Rainbow Tickets are completely open to whatever you choose as according to the rules of the Ticket that you want to redeem. However, the prices could change so they are on par to what it realistically costs to produce these items.

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That's up for debate still because it's so far into the month, but I can bring it up with the team! I just cannot make any promises about it because time is a big concern.

Specifically, any generated tickets will be subtracted from the 15qt/5qt total. This number is based on how many we can realistically create if all 20 were to be turned in within the first week of May to stay within our desired timetables.

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Yes, 20 is low! It's generously low in respect of the aforementioned timetables.

Oh, I meant for the longer term! Although if the ones in the Cash Shop don't sell, then... yes, please. heart It's a great way to bring tickets into circulation and drain gold out of the economy -- both of which fight the big problem, which is the inflated gold price users are reselling tickets for. It's natural that questing for one would be an uphill climb, but it's getting alarmingly steep.

Also, how soon can we hope to get timetables for other tickets? ...aaand stubs? As mentioned earlier in this thread, the stubs queue seems to have dropped significantly -- while it's cool to get a big order mocked in under a week, it also worries me that it might take a while to accumulate enough for the next Quartz CI.

(Speaking of, this might be nosy, but -- with the change in ticket releases, are we going to see the recolors more spread out, rather than these huge custom recolor CIs?)

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That's up for debate still because it's so far into the month, but I can bring it up with the team! I just cannot make any promises about it because time is a big concern.

Specifically, any generated tickets will be subtracted from the 15qt/5qt total. This number is based on how many we can realistically create if all 20 were to be turned in within the first week of May to stay within our desired timetables.

EDIT~~~~
Yes, 20 is low! It's generously low in respect of the aforementioned timetables.

Oh, I meant for the longer term! Although if the ones in the Cash Shop don't sell, then... yes, please. heart It's a great way to bring tickets into circulation and drain gold out of the economy -- both of which fight the big problem, which is the inflated gold price users are reselling tickets for. It's natural that questing for one would be an uphill climb, but it's getting alarmingly steep.

Also, how soon can we hope to get timetables for other tickets? ...aaand stubs? As mentioned earlier in this thread, the stubs queue seems to have dropped significantly -- while it's cool to get a big order mocked in under a week, it also worries me that it might take a while to accumulate enough for the next Quartz CI.

(Speaking of, this might be nosy, but -- with the change in ticket releases, are we going to see the recolors more spread out, rather than these huge custom recolor CIs?)


The rest of all the things are still being evaluated so there isn't anything further that I can divulge, I'm afraid.

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The rest of all the things are still being evaluated so there isn't anything further that I can divulge, I'm afraid.

Fair enough! I'll put away the news cameras. Thank you for what information you were able to provide.

Honestly, I feel pretty good about all this. When it was announced there would be a move away from Tickets, people were worried it would mean the end of Project Custom. But hearing that it's an honest evaluation of throughput... it makes me feel like this is being made more sustainable, not less.

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Just to dispel the myths, I did address the situation here:
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/t.102279469_6/#6

tl;dr: 15 additional slots are opened without causing crazy amounts of backlog.

Then there is the concern over price, which is much harder to approach. sweatdrop

We completely understand that price was a big draw because they were inexpensive considering the product and quality, but those are the original prices of those tickets when they were introduced. When it came down to it, there was an epic disconnect between the artist team and management. That turned into us taking a serious loss when tickets were being sold super low when the cost of production on many of those items were a double, triple or more than what they were priced at in the strike-throughs.

In short, discounts will not return that will cause Project Tickets to drop them past 1/2 to 6/7ths of their original price straight out of La Victiore. That would not sustain the Project program. It goes hand-in-hand with this from January.

yum_strawberry


Thank you for posting this! I just want to bring up a few points that maybe you could pass along? If any of these concerns was also addressed elsewhere, please forgive me for beating a dead horse! sweatdrop

With the previous price of the tickets, the strike-through prices were also being done at the same time as 60-75% off GC, which obviously made the tickets hella cheap.

Everyone here understands that that was not sustainable and created a very large problem for the recolor team and for gaia financially. None of us want to see this happen again.

But one of the main concerns I've been noticing from the community is that while gcash has not gone on discount, the prices of things in the CS only seem to be getting higher, and are not adjusting to the return of actual GCash pricing. While the tickets themselves are being re-introduced at their original non-sale price, the fact remains that in this economy, it's just not justifiable to spend that kind of money on something that we are, at the end of the day, only renting.

Why not $350 dollars for an RT? That seems a fair price based on another ticket also currently in the shop: The Spring Couture Dye Ticket.

The Couture ticket is essentially a RT but with different release rules - it does the same exact thing with the same exact color block rules. With the added/increased drop rates on the recolor RIGs+the even increasing disinterest for user-recolors the rest of the community is showing, it's not even like we get that much more of a return on our recolors than in a Dye RIG. We get the same amount of copies of the item, the same amount of time to sell/gift our copies before the RIG turns out, and yet despite all this, we're asked to pay twice the amount.

As of this post, none of the tickets have sold, despite many people I know personally who could afford them, people who have been waiting patiently for the day tickets would be sold again in the CS - myself included - simply because the price isn't worth it at this point. And we can't even turn to the exchange because vendors are charging abysmally high prices there too. And if no one is buying these from the CS, not even the whales, that alone should send warning signs to someone that something is wrong with the pricing.

I love and respect the artists on this site a lot. They have never done wrong by me on a personal level, and I have always had a lot of respect for what they do and sympathize with the workload they've have to put up with for so long because of prior management. I love this new system of limited releases on direct CS purchases of tickets, and feel that is a great way to make sure that the work-load does not get that bad again.

They deserve to be paid accordingly for their work and for their patience on dealing with picky-a** customers like myself, and I am happy to spend my money on this site to help support them. Hence me putting in almost 90 hours this week so I can go buy another Couture ticket without affecting my own personal bottom line. And I'm sorry to say this, but no likes being ripped off, and that's all I can see with the current pricing.


We are aware of these concerns, but the big factor of the pricing is that it does take a lot to pay the people that create those items. The previous prices that were being paid prior-- which there was not much of a change between Black Friday and prior (Rainbow Tickets were 28900 Gaia Cash, and Double Rainbow tickets were 48900 Gaia Cash, long before Black Friday 2016)-- do not accurately portray how much each type of item costs to produce.

In contrast to the Dye Tickets, those prices are historic to the previous iterations, and we felt Spring needed time in the light. Though, the Dye Tickets will be reevaluated after this run. The prices are currently low because there are pre-selected schemes to pick from, whereas the Rainbow Tickets are completely open to whatever you choose as according to the rules of the Ticket that you want to redeem. However, the prices could change so they are on par to what it realistically costs to produce these items.
Thank you again for the information.

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For those who asked about the Quartz stub queue - it is hella short. I just submitted one yesterday, and already have my acceptance. <3

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thank you for sharing the information you could!

I have a small suggestion to take back to the team that has absolutely nothing to do with tickets xd So, odds on user rigs are generally really horrible (at least for me, I've opened a number of user rigs and not gotten a single user item). Is there any chance that instead of maybe having them limited time discounted in price they could do a boost in the chance you might actually pull a user item? This would help lower some of that user item rarity as well as make it so that you guys are still getting some good cash flow from the sale of rigs.

And yes, I know a large number of ppl in this thread might hate this idea, but ^^;

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Hello friends!

As of now, every single e-mail for regular recolor ticket submissions has at least received a response. (This does not include Rainbow Parcels, Quartz Stubs, or Seasonal Dye Tickets).

If you submitted a recolor ticket, excluding those few mentioned, and have NOT received a response, please send us an e-mail with basic info on the order (username, date sent, item recoloring). Sometimes e-mails can get lost, so I'll try to locate the original order with this info. If it can't be found, I'll let you know so you can resubmit.

Thank you to everyone for your patience, I really appreciate it!

tl;dr: /slams fists on desk
WE'RE DONE
No line, no waiting (for acceptances)
*gives a pile o cookies* you guys are amazing
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