❤ ❤ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - IF MARKET PLACE TAX EVER HITS 10% then I will no longer be using that feature and will use the forums to sell items instead.
maybe to 4 or 5% but no higher! when I sell something I actually want to get the gold for it and not lose any or else I'll have to raise the prices then and I'm sure I'm not the only one that would do it
Personally, I do not think raising the Marketplace Tax at all is a good idea.I mean, come on, not everyone bought Flynn's Booty and not everyone has a buttload of money. I'm still poor and the items I want are too expensive for me as it is. So in short, Gaia Sirs, please do not up the Marketplace Tax. ;v;
exactly! why should those not participating in the RIG item hype be in a way, punished?
because it will teach you a lesson
you've gotta start buying GC
No! Just No!
Not everyone on gaia is made of gold. Why are you guys so afraid to make it harder to earn gold in a more legit manner? This whole concern and issue with inflation and what not is staff's fault for even allowing users to make a couple mill in a few days from games like BG and zOMG in the first place! Not every plays those games. *raeg*
Edit:
Lemme give you an example. I and a lot of users I know only make gold selling fish on the MP to users questing rare fish helms or users making philosopher's caches. It takes me a month of fishing 12+ hours a day (average) to make a million gold off those fish. It takes a person playing BG, zOMG or HoC days. It takes someone vending on the MP minutes. Someone doing artwork or something? As long as it takes them to finish their drawing. A person making millions like it's nothing, won't even be bothered with a tax increase. The only users you'd be punishing/affecting are those who don't do the above actions.
Balance out gold earning across the site and the games. Make the gold sinks you already have actually attractive to use. Stop punishing truly poor users who find it hard to make gold. I'm so ******** tired of it. So ******** tired. scream
More feedback in the spoiler. Tl;dr is above.
General Feedback/ranting below:
Gaia's just bandaging the problem they made instead of actually fixing it. They're the ones who gave users a taste of greed through earning a million gold within two-three days, using what you're telling me now (as user told me they can make 210K in 4 hours). Gaia decided to throw out gold to users for absolutely no work at all compared to how it was before those games were put in, not us. So now that users can make gold really quickly the ones who can go "Oh this item's really not worth that much, but I can make this gold back really quick, so I'll buy it anyway." instead of sitting there thinking "Do I want this item or not?" And that equals a price increase.
And now Gaia goes "We wanna to see if you'd like the idea of taxing you more instead of using the gold sinks already here and balancing out gold earning across the site so users just don't farm the one or two things that makes them the most gold." Because God forbid they admit that those actions compared to every other action on this site, doesn't make anywhere near as much gold. Screw that, Gaia. For real.
And I'm not even talking about the Cash Shop, 'cause it only generates gold when Gaia goes full retard and hands it out in a CI/RIG fashion. Even the CS items having a sellback price doesn't generate gold, unless they soulbind the thing *stares at the good ol' poor "Oni Set" item*. Thank goodness they've stopped that. Usually the sellback price is too low compared to how much the item's worth on the MP.
This s**t's so easy to fix, it should have never happened.
Lower the CS price of zOMG powerups. Then nerf the gold. Even with that you'll still piss people off 'cause the staff behind that game decided to make it tedious as ******** to play for some stupid reason. I still remember that dev and his ridiculous notion of how to play that game "It's supposed to be like pacman, casual fun, but you never actually win." :eyeroll:
Lower the CS price of aquarium fish. The only reason BG exists, and the fish drop so much gold was because Gaia decided to make an item that dies/disappear cost so damn much. So they somehow had to make Gaia aquariums attractive to use. But God forbid Gaia make anything in the CS cost less than $2-3 USD. That's ********' taboo. "Do I buy an EI/REI or do I buy this fish? If I buy this fish, it better be worth it, which means they better drop a s**t ton of gold so I can buy the EI/REI I probably should have picked up in the first darn place."
Eventually...balance out gold earning across the games and the site, which includes the above. Make your gold sinks more attractive *stares at gold shops*. Problem solved. Prices may not drop back down to how they were, but those who don't touch those features won't feel like they "can't make gold for s**t" and those with way too much gold won't be sitting there bored out their minds trying to figure out "what do I do with this huge amount of gold? *stares at it*." This isn't rocket science and we're certainly not trying to build a nuclear power plant.
This needs to be quoted as many ******** times as possible.
The marketplace being dragged into an even bigger tax is ridiculous, since that is only going to make sellers sell them at an even HIGHER price. So it wont help anyone at ALL.
Honestly no on this simply because the marketplace is already a free for all of messed up pricing. Most the time, on items I try to sell, someone has lowered the bar so much on the price of the item I can make more simply by selling back to gaia. This can be regular items but it happens far more often on my Chance Items. So if their is a problem with gold some how (which I really don't see) this is not the way to fix the problem.
What? That sucks! Why don't you find a way to tax cash shop items? Or tax people who are buying? I just paid 14,000 to sell an item at a huge loss. It is already so hard to get nice items. Its taken me like 7 years to get the avi I have now. If you raise taxes it almost wouldn't be worth it for me to play.burning_eyes
I Use The Market Place On A Daily Basis And If The Tax Goes Up, I Wont Be Using It Anymore.
The Market Place Is A Fast Easy Way To Sell My Unwanted Items And 2% Is A Reasonable Tax, But If It Is Increased, It Decreases The Gold I Actually Get, Therefore Negates My Reason For Using MP In The First Place.
No! Just No!
Not everyone on gaia is made of gold. Why are you guys so afraid to make it harder to earn gold in a more legit manner? This whole concern and issue with inflation and what not is staff's fault for even allowing users to make a couple mill in a few days from games like BG and zOMG in the first place! Not every plays those games. *raeg*
Edit:
Lemme give you an example. I and a lot of users I know only make gold selling fish on the MP to users questing rare fish helms or users making philosopher's caches. It takes me a month of fishing 12+ hours a day (average) to make a million gold off those fish. It takes a person playing BG, zOMG or HoC days. It takes someone vending on the MP minutes. Someone doing artwork or something? As long as it takes them to finish their drawing. A person making millions like it's nothing, won't even be bothered with a tax increase. The only users you'd be punishing/affecting are those who don't do the above actions.
Balance out gold earning across the site and the games. Make the gold sinks you already have actually attractive to use. Stop punishing truly poor users who find it hard to make gold. I'm so ******** tired of it. So ******** tired. scream
More feedback in the spoiler. Tl;dr is above.
General Feedback/ranting below:
Gaia's just bandaging the problem they made instead of actually fixing it. They're the ones who gave users a taste of greed through earning a million gold within two-three days, using what you're telling me now (as user told me they can make 210K in 4 hours). Gaia decided to throw out gold to users for absolutely no work at all compared to how it was before those games were put in, not us. So now that users can make gold really quickly the ones who can go "Oh this item's really not worth that much, but I can make this gold back really quick, so I'll buy it anyway." instead of sitting there thinking "Do I want this item or not?" And that equals a price increase.
And now Gaia goes "We wanna to see if you'd like the idea of taxing you more instead of using the gold sinks already here and balancing out gold earning across the site so users just don't farm the one or two things that makes them the most gold." Because God forbid they admit that those actions compared to every other action on this site, doesn't make anywhere near as much gold. Screw that, Gaia. For real.
And I'm not even talking about the Cash Shop, 'cause it only generates gold when Gaia goes full retard and hands it out in a CI/RIG fashion. Even the CS items having a sellback price doesn't generate gold, unless they soulbind the thing *stares at the good ol' poor "Oni Set" item*. Thank goodness they've stopped that. Usually the sellback price is too low compared to how much the item's worth on the MP.
This s**t's so easy to fix, it should have never happened.
Lower the CS price of zOMG powerups. Then nerf the gold. Even with that you'll still piss people off 'cause the staff behind that game decided to make it tedious as ******** to play for some stupid reason. I still remember that dev and his ridiculous notion of how to play that game "It's supposed to be like pacman, casual fun, but you never actually win." :eyeroll:
Lower the CS price of aquarium fish. The only reason BG exists, and the fish drop so much gold was because Gaia decided to make an item that dies/disappear cost so damn much. So they somehow had to make Gaia aquariums attractive to use. But God forbid Gaia make anything in the CS cost less than $2-3 USD. That's ********' taboo. "Do I buy an EI/REI or do I buy this fish? If I buy this fish, it better be worth it, which means they better drop a s**t ton of gold so I can buy the EI/REI I probably should have picked up in the first darn place."
Eventually...balance out gold earning across the games and the site, which includes the above. Make your gold sinks more attractive *stares at gold shops*. Problem solved. Prices may not drop back down to how they were, but those who don't touch those features won't feel like they "can't make gold for s**t" and those with way too much gold won't be sitting there bored out their minds trying to figure out "what do I do with this huge amount of gold? *stares at it*." This isn't rocket science and we're certainly not trying to build a nuclear power plant.
This needs to be quoted as many ******** times as possible.
The marketplace being dragged into an even bigger tax is ridiculous, since that is only going to make sellers sell them at an even HIGHER price. So it wont help anyone at ALL.
I agree with Andromeda Phoenix! (I didnt even know i could get gold from playing those other games, and its been 3 years of me playing zomg... I feel like i just wasted my life especially if the taxes get raised.. it'll all be for nothing)
No! Just No!
Not everyone on gaia is made of gold. Why are you guys so afraid to make it harder to earn gold in a more legit manner? This whole concern and issue with inflation and what not is staff's fault for even allowing users to make a couple mill in a few days from games like BG and zOMG in the first place! Not every plays those games. *raeg*
Edit:
Lemme give you an example. I and a lot of users I know only make gold selling fish on the MP to users questing rare fish helms or users making philosopher's caches. It takes me a month of fishing 12+ hours a day (average) to make a million gold off those fish. It takes a person playing BG, zOMG or HoC days. It takes someone vending on the MP minutes. Someone doing artwork or something? As long as it takes them to finish their drawing. A person making millions like it's nothing, won't even be bothered with a tax increase. The only users you'd be punishing/affecting are those who don't do the above actions.
Balance out gold earning across the site and the games. Make the gold sinks you already have actually attractive to use. Stop punishing truly poor users who find it hard to make gold. I'm so ******** tired of it. So ******** tired. scream
More feedback in the spoiler. Tl;dr is above.
General Feedback/ranting below:
Gaia's just bandaging the problem they made instead of actually fixing it. They're the ones who gave users a taste of greed through earning a million gold within two-three days, using what you're telling me now (as user told me they can make 210K in 4 hours). Gaia decided to throw out gold to users for absolutely no work at all compared to how it was before those games were put in, not us. So now that users can make gold really quickly the ones who can go "Oh this item's really not worth that much, but I can make this gold back really quick, so I'll buy it anyway." instead of sitting there thinking "Do I want this item or not?" And that equals a price increase.
And now Gaia goes "We wanna to see if you'd like the idea of taxing you more instead of using the gold sinks already here and balancing out gold earning across the site so users just don't farm the one or two things that makes them the most gold." Because God forbid they admit that those actions compared to every other action on this site, doesn't make anywhere near as much gold. Screw that, Gaia. For real.
And I'm not even talking about the Cash Shop, 'cause it only generates gold when Gaia goes full retard and hands it out in a CI/RIG fashion. Even the CS items having a sellback price doesn't generate gold, unless they soulbind the thing *stares at the good ol' poor "Oni Set" item*. Thank goodness they've stopped that. Usually the sellback price is too low compared to how much the item's worth on the MP.
This s**t's so easy to fix, it should have never happened.
Lower the CS price of zOMG powerups. Then nerf the gold. Even with that you'll still piss people off 'cause the staff behind that game decided to make it tedious as ******** to play for some stupid reason. I still remember that dev and his ridiculous notion of how to play that game "It's supposed to be like pacman, casual fun, but you never actually win." :eyeroll:
Lower the CS price of aquarium fish. The only reason BG exists, and the fish drop so much gold was because Gaia decided to make an item that dies/disappear cost so damn much. So they somehow had to make Gaia aquariums attractive to use. But God forbid Gaia make anything in the CS cost less than $2-3 USD. That's ********' taboo. "Do I buy an EI/REI or do I buy this fish? If I buy this fish, it better be worth it, which means they better drop a s**t ton of gold so I can buy the EI/REI I probably should have picked up in the first darn place."
Eventually...balance out gold earning across the games and the site, which includes the above. Make your gold sinks more attractive *stares at gold shops*. Problem solved. Prices may not drop back down to how they were, but those who don't touch those features won't feel like they "can't make gold for s**t" and those with way too much gold won't be sitting there bored out their minds trying to figure out "what do I do with this huge amount of gold? *stares at it*." This isn't rocket science and we're certainly not trying to build a nuclear power plant.
This needs to be quoted as many ******** times as possible.
The marketplace being dragged into an even bigger tax is ridiculous, since that is only going to make sellers sell them at an even HIGHER price. So it wont help anyone at ALL.
I agree with Andromeda Phoenix! (I didnt even know i could get gold from playing those other games, and its been 3 years of me playing zomg... I feel like i just wasted my life especially if the taxes get raised.. it'll all be for nothing)
I think it's a little ridiculous to raise the gaia marketplace tax, it's already harder for people questing for items to get those items because everyone has to raise their prices to make enough if not it's worth off the items their selling. It's made it harder for me to find items in my budget and harder to get my money's worth for what i'm selling. this will just make gold worth less and less and for those who don't pay you our hard earned money in real life, to get enough GC will fall behind horribly. eventually people will just have to bypass the marketplace entirely, leaving the marketplace almost unused and obsolete. Please find some other way to deal with finances on here with the users, i think we'd all appreciate it
A lot of have people have suggested more gold cash items and I think that would work. Cause a lot of the 'most awesome' items ARE cash shop items. It would be cool to have items like them, (but not really) so that people like me who mainly use GG can afford to get 'COOL' items. Instead of hording old items until they get higher in price then selling them in the MP for lots of GG. ((I do this.))
As for the tax... it wouldn't work for the GC users. The ONLY way to fix that would be to tax THEM but that wouldn't work since it is 'real world money' and you can't tax that right? Otherwise people would revolt, right? These people who have HUNDREDS of dollars to throw at this site get to have all the awesome items and then sell them in the MP for oodles of GG. THAT is what is happening, not a ton of old users with billions of GG.
Also, the bank feature. I remember that. AM I the only one who does? That was taken down for this very same reason. People who already have a TON of GG were earning a crap ton MORE due to the interest just by having oodles of GG sitting still. That I understand yes.
But raising the tax for me makes no sense in the act of the inflation aspect. Since it wouldn't work for those that STILL have that billions, if not trillions of GG since they have hundreds to throw getting GC items to sell for GG. Like others have said one way to fix this would be to have a LOT of GC shop items that are COOL. That are awesome, and people can PAY YOU for via GG thus cutting the inflation, since there are more GG items are being wanted and bought. People still but GC items and sell them, but now people can go to GG and get cool items. Right? I understand you need to make money gaia, but offering GG cash items that are super awesome and people WANT other then just pushing it all on GC would cut the inflation. At least my understanding of it.
People want GC items, and I know you want them to want them and to BUY them. But they will still buy them, even with more items in GG shops. People will still wait for others to buy it then sell the items in the MP.
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