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also give them milk they love it .ishould know i hav a cayt on here


depends on the cat, some are lactose intolerant, and it can make them sick. Milk like tuna should be offered in small amounts as treats. And most Creatures shouldn't have milk after they get out of their baby stage.

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What should I feed my cat?

This one's a little tough, and I'd recommend that you do your own research. However, as a general guide, avoid cat foods that contain
- Wheat
- Corn
- Rice
- Soy
- "Meat" (would you eat something if the ingredients included unspecified "meat"?)
- Any byproducts
- Wet foods that are "in gravy" tend to have nasty ingredients
- Check for preservatives in wet foods

The problem with wheat, corn, rice, and soy is that cats didn't evolve to digest them properly. Unfortunately these ingredients are cheap fillers, and are widely used. It is incredibly hard to find foods that meet these standards. Even Science Diet* and other "scientifically formulated" foods tend to include these ingredients. Blue Buffalo and Wellness are commonly recommended "clean" cat foods, but are a bit on the expensive side (though, so is Science Diet). If you're on a tight budget, my recommendation is Costco brand adult cat food and Meow Mix's non-gravy wet foods. The former is fairly clean (only contains rice, which isn't as bad an offender as wheat or corn) and costs about $15 for a massive bag. The latter is clean of these ingredients but does contain some chemicals and preservatives - make sure to avoid the "in gravy" flavors. My two cats did well and were healthy on a combination of these foods. Now that I'm not broke, I'm trading up for higher-quality foods.

If your cat has digestive problems, is overweight, or has an unhealthy coat, look into changing his/her diet immediately!

The wet/dry food debate is far from resolved. Cats tend not to drink enough, so wet food can help keep them hydrated. This is especially important for older cats (9+ years) and cats susceptible to health problems like diabetes and urinary tract infections.

Some people claim that dry food helps clean their teeth, but this is not true (as someone put it, do your teeth get cleaner when you eat a pretzel? No, you just end up with pretzel bits stuck in your teeth). Dry food has a much higher amount of carbohydrates (which is a bad thing). Dry food is also linked to some health problems, though it's not clear whether or not this is because of ingredients like wheat and corn.

It'll usually come down to what your cat will eat. There are a lot of cats that refuse to eat either wet or dry food.

Finally, once you find a food that your cat likes, pay attention to their health. How is your cat's coat, weight, litter box use, etc.? If he or she seems happy and healthy, stick to the food. Don't vary your cat's diet just so he or she can have a variety of tastes. Unlike humans, cats are perfectly happy with eating the same thing every day, and changes in diet can disrupt digestion - commonly resulting in cat barf (fun to clean up!).


*From what I hear, Science Diet has a specialty line of foods that your vet can prescribe, and these are much cleaner.

Edit: Follow instructions when feeding your cat. Overfeeding can lead to obesity, and "open feeding" (just leaving a bowl full of food out constantly) can encourage pickiness as well as obesity. The food also goes stale faster, so it can be wasteful.

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Can I give my cat .... as a treat?

Added color-coded system:
Red = major no-no
Orange = avoid in large quantities/don't feed regularly
Yellow = Okay - read information
Green = good

Dairy. Okee doke. Here's the thing. CATS ARE BASICALLY LACTOSE INTOLERANT. Yes, they love dairy products, but dairy is bad for them. Giving your cat milk, cheese, or ice cream can give them digestive problems like diarrhea (do you want to clean that up? No. You don't.) or constipation. I repeat: do not feed your cat dairy products regularly, or in any large quantity.

Tuna is another problematic treat, though cats do love it! Some people are concerned about the mercury levels in tuna, but the real problem is the level of unsaturated fatty acids in tuna. If fed canned tuna regularly, your cat can develop serious health problems (google Steatitis). It is okay to give as an occasional treat, and tuna cat foods are also okay (they include the nutrients necessary to process fatty acids, and have a lower sodium content).

Pumpkin. There are many healthy alternatives in your local pet store. One thing I feed my cats regularly is pumpkin. Pumpkin (just the mashed stuff out of a can, about a tablespoon worth) is recommended for digestive health, it's full of fiber and therefore is a great treat for older cats. Oddly enough, cats seem to love pumpkin!

Meat. Raw meat carries the risk of E. Coli or Salmonella. Plus, while cats are carnivores, they would naturally eat a whole animal (or most of it), and not the parts that us humans eat. Cats need more nutrition than is available in meat alone, including nutrients that are found in organs like the intestines or liver. Processed meats (including some brands of chicken, or luncheon meats) tend to be high in sodium. If frequently fed meat (or other foods) with high fat content, pets can develop pancreatitis. This is a common problem around Christmas or Thanksgiving, when it's easy to lose track of what your pet has eaten during family gatherings. Multiple people might treat your pet to scraps of meat and other foods, so pay attention if your pet falls ill! Early diagnosis can save a cat's life.

Check out the ASPCA's info on substances that are okay for your pet - it has an index of foods, cleaning products, and other things your pet may ingest (it includes dog hazards too - things that affect dogs don't necessarily affect cats, and vice versa).

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Alternative diets: My cat likes dog food, can she just eat that?, Cats are carnivores, shouldn't they just eat meat?, I'm vegan, and I want my cat to be on a meat-free diet?

Alternative diets for cats should not be adopted without consulting and working closely with a vet or cat nutrition expert. Don't think that you can construct a diet for your cat based on Crazy McGee's cat nutrition website. There is plenty of misinformation on the internet, so be wise before doing something that might seriously affect your cat's health.

The main concern here is that cats get all of the nutrients they need. Vegan diets are impossible, from what I've heard, because cats need taurine in their diets. Taurine is usually consumed by cats when they eat other animals, and it is not included in dog food or in "barn cat" cat food blends (with the latter, the cats get taurine from catching mice). Do proper research before changing your cat's diet!

Edit: this post has some info on raw diets. Raw diets are expert-level cat care, and inconvenient for the common pet owner. If you're willing to put in the time, money, and effort necessary for a raw diet, check it out!

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Thank you for adressing the milk and tuna issue. I know we never fed the cats growing up strait tuna, they normally got the water from the can when we decided to make tuna fish aor some other thing with tuna, which was maybe every couple of months. Is the "tuna" water also something to stay away from?

Also thanks for the point about pumpkin, I'm going to be adopting a cat this summer, so knowing a least something I normally have on hand is great (<---loves to make pumpkin pies....)

One of the cats I'm looking at actually has a grain allergy/IBS so even dry blue buffalo is out if I end up adopting her. Wellness is another good cat food but like bule buffalo it can be expensive. @_@ Also I dont' know the link off the top of my head but I think Kilpuk has a Raw thread that might be useful if anyone is looking to do a raw diet for their cat.

Think I shall subscribe so I can come and talk once I as I go through picking out the cat.

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How do I put this delicately....


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AWWWWWWWWHSSOOOOOOOME! <3
I never knew cats couldn't have milk. My grandma, when she lived here, would always let her cat Handyman drink milk from her cup. >_<


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Thank you for adressing the milk and tuna issue. I know we never fed the cats growing up strait tuna, they normally got the water from the can when we decided to make tuna fish aor some other thing with tuna, which was maybe every couple of months. Is the "tuna" water also something to stay away from?

Also thanks for the point about pumpkin, I'm going to be adopting a cat this summer, so knowing a least something I normally have on hand is great (<---loves to make pumpkin pies....)

One of the cats I'm looking at actually has a grain allergy/IBS so even dry blue buffalo is out if I end up adopting her. Wellness is another good cat food but like bule buffalo it can be expensive. @_@ Also I dont' know the link off the top of my head but I think Kilpuk has a Raw thread that might be useful if anyone is looking to do a raw diet for their cat.

Think I shall subscribe so I can come and talk once I as I go through picking out the cat.


I would guess that the tuna water would be okay occasionally... it might be high in sodium though, maybe check ingredients to see if it's water or a brine.

The pumpkin is great (my old man kitty was super constipated before xp ). I had to trick them into eating it at first by sprinkling cat n** on it, but now they love it.

My cousin has a cat with allergies to, well, pretty much everything. They were able to get a special food mix for her, recommended by a vet and available from an organic food store. It wasn't cheap, but it kept her healthy. I'll look up the link though, looks like a good one to add to the post!

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AWWWWWWWWHSSOOOOOOOME! <3
I never knew cats couldn't have milk. My grandma, when she lived here, would always let her cat Handyman drink milk from her cup. >_<


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Thanks! whee
& it's amazing how many people don't know about the dairy thing.

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Thank you for adressing the milk and tuna issue. I know we never fed the cats growing up strait tuna, they normally got the water from the can when we decided to make tuna fish aor some other thing with tuna, which was maybe every couple of months. Is the "tuna" water also something to stay away from?

Also thanks for the point about pumpkin, I'm going to be adopting a cat this summer, so knowing a least something I normally have on hand is great (<---loves to make pumpkin pies....)

One of the cats I'm looking at actually has a grain allergy/IBS so even dry blue buffalo is out if I end up adopting her. Wellness is another good cat food but like bule buffalo it can be expensive. @_@ Also I dont' know the link off the top of my head but I think Kilpuk has a Raw thread that might be useful if anyone is looking to do a raw diet for their cat.

Think I shall subscribe so I can come and talk once I as I go through picking out the cat.


I would guess that the tuna water would be okay occasionally... it might be high in sodium though, maybe check ingredients to see if it's water or a brine.

The pumpkin is great (my old man kitty was super constipated before xp ). I had to trick them into eating it at first by sprinkling cat n** on it, but now they love it.

My cousin has a cat with allergies to, well, pretty much everything. They were able to get a special food mix for her, recommended by a vet and available from an organic food store. It wasn't cheap, but it kept her healthy. I'll look up the link though, looks like a good one to add to the post!


yeah right now the rescue that has her says she did well on a raw diet (but since they are busy they wanted an actually food and for the owners sake as well). So they kept trying things and they found Wellness CORE

I need to talk to my friend, that will hold any cat I get until I come back up to tech. To see if it is even feesable for me to get Ibis, cause all the food will need to be hidden and her cats would have to be shifted to a scheduled feeding (neither of them really have weight issues, with the open food bowl... truthfully never had an animal have issues with it...but I guess I have jsut gotten lucky with animals. )

if not I have three other cats that I want to meet and get to know. Two seniors(one 14, the other 8-10) and a 7 yr female.

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My cat has behavioral problems, what can I do?

There are a lot of cats that aren't properly disciplined when young, and there are many unexpected things that can upset cats and trigger behavioral problems. If nothing in this post sounds right, you might want to post with an explanation of what your cat is doing and what you've done to try to prevent it.

Problem-solving: What is causing your cat's behavior? Sometimes the cat has learned this behavior at any early age and was never been trained out of it. You should combine discipline (see below) and preventative measures to dissuade this behavior... for example, you can put packing tape sticky-side up on a surface they like to scratch, they don't like it and will usually leave the surface alone.

Is this behavior new? If so, try to figure out what has changed in your cat's environment that might be a source of stress. If your cat goes outdoors, it may have had a traumatic experience, If indoors only, your options are limited. Just try to identify anything that has changed lately. My friend had a cat that went completely bonkers when she (the friend, that is) got pregnant. New household devices or objects can smell, look, or sound weird to a cat - even something as simple as a box. And, of course, vacuum cleaners are often the natural enemy of the cat.

Is your pet reacting to your children/a friend's small children? A lot of cats aren't fans of small children, and will hide from them. Teach your child to be kind and respectful of animals. It is not acceptable for a child to hit an animal, scream at it, or otherwise terrify it, and if you allow this behavior your cat will develop behavioral problems.


Discipline: DO NOT EVER HIT YOUR CAT. It will not improve their behavior, it will just make them afraid of you. Plus it's mean, and you're a meanie for doing it crying . In addition, if punishment is clearly related to you, they'll just do the bad thing when you aren't around. Also, do not punish your cat a significant amount of time after they did something bad, or they will not make the connection between punishment and what they did wrong.

There are some tips for discipline here. I find squirt bottles to be effective, or even just shaking a water bottle. When it comes to biting and scratching, I blow a burst of air into my cat's face - it's harmless and it bugs the hell out of them. Or, as in the Engineer's Guide to Cats, you can try corporal cuddling.

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yeah right now the rescue that has her says she did well on a raw diet (but since they are busy they wanted an actually food and for the owners sake as well). So they kept trying things and they found Wellness CORE

I need to talk to my friend, that will hold any cat I get until I come back up to tech. To see if it is even feesable for me to get Ibis, cause all the food will need to be hidden and her cats would have to be shifted to a scheduled feeding (neither of them really have weight issues, with the open food bowl... truthfully never had an animal have issues with it...but I guess I have jsut gotten lucky with animals. )

if not I have three other cats that I want to meet and get to know. Two seniors(one 14, the other 8-10) and a 7 yr female.


Adoptions are always exciting! And good for you for not just adopting kittens. Older kitties need homes too.

Male cats (if unstressed) tend not to have problems with open feeding, but female cats almost always end up overweight - from what I hear it's related to hormonal problems caused by being spayed. Females tend to be a bit round anyway, and are hard to diet.

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yeah right now the rescue that has her says she did well on a raw diet (but since they are busy they wanted an actually food and for the owners sake as well). So they kept trying things and they found Wellness CORE

I need to talk to my friend, that will hold any cat I get until I come back up to tech. To see if it is even feesable for me to get Ibis, cause all the food will need to be hidden and her cats would have to be shifted to a scheduled feeding (neither of them really have weight issues, with the open food bowl... truthfully never had an animal have issues with it...but I guess I have jsut gotten lucky with animals. )

if not I have three other cats that I want to meet and get to know. Two seniors(one 14, the other 8-10) and a 7 yr female.


Adoptions are always exciting! And good for you for not just adopting kittens. Older kitties need homes too.

Male cats (if unstressed) tend not to have problems with open feeding, but female cats almost always end up overweight - from what I hear it's related to hormonal problems caused by being spayed. Females tend to be a bit round anyway, and are hard to diet.


our male cats growing up were fine, and my friend has a female that is maybe only a couple pounds heavier than she should be but sits at a constant weight so we dont' worry about her to much, she get enough exercise... from us trying to get her to learn that if you hiss and run from us we will just pick you up and hold you. and her other female is almost to the point of being anerexic (we think it is due to my friend's brother calling her fatso all the time...we think she understands the word now XD (she alos hates the brother), but she has a room completely to herself that is only her space and she preffers to live in that room with her stuff and her master (aka my friend's room) but she is still just a really skinny cat.

I could have a kitten but I don't have the time or space to deal with a rampaging teenager that grew up outside for the frist year of her life. @_@...and from where i am looking it will still cost the same as adopting a kitten....

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yeah right now the rescue that has her says she did well on a raw diet (but since they are busy they wanted an actually food and for the owners sake as well). So they kept trying things and they found Wellness CORE

I need to talk to my friend, that will hold any cat I get until I come back up to tech. To see if it is even feesable for me to get Ibis, cause all the food will need to be hidden and her cats would have to be shifted to a scheduled feeding (neither of them really have weight issues, with the open food bowl... truthfully never had an animal have issues with it...but I guess I have jsut gotten lucky with animals. )

if not I have three other cats that I want to meet and get to know. Two seniors(one 14, the other 8-10) and a 7 yr female.


Adoptions are always exciting! And good for you for not just adopting kittens. Older kitties need homes too.

Male cats (if unstressed) tend not to have problems with open feeding, but female cats almost always end up overweight - from what I hear it's related to hormonal problems caused by being spayed. Females tend to be a bit round anyway, and are hard to diet.


our male cats growing up were fine, and my friend has a female that is maybe only a couple pounds heavier than she should be but sits at a constant weight so we dont' worry about her to much, she get enough exercise... from us trying to get her to learn that if you hiss and run from us we will just pick you up and hold you. and her other female is almost to the point of being anerexic (we think it is due to my friend's brother calling her fatso all the time...we think she understands the word now XD (she alos hates the brother), but she has a room completely to herself that is only her space and she preffers to live in that room with her stuff and her master (aka my friend's room) but she is still just a really skinny cat.

I could have a kitten but I don't have the time or space to deal with a rampaging teenager that grew up outside for the frist year of her life. @_@...and from where i am looking it will still cost the same as adopting a kitten....


My friend had a cat like the second one you mentioned, he was ashamed to be seen eating and would sneak downstairs to his bowl after everyone went to bed. He was a giant butterball though. (Died of complications related to weight and arthritis, poor guy sad )

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