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Llorin

But I will never insult anybody.

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Islam is derived from the Arabic root "Salema": peace, purity, submission and obedience. In the religious sense, Islam means submission to the will of God and obedience to His law.

Everything and every phenomenon in the world other than man is administered totally by God-made laws, ie. they are obedient to God and submissive to his laws, they are in the State of Islam. Man possesses the qualities of intelligence and choice, thus he is invited to submit to the good will of God and obey His law, ie, become a Muslim.

Submission to the good will of God, together with obedience to His beneficial Law, ie, becoming a Muslim, is the best safeguard for man's peace and harmony.

Islam dates back to the age of Adam and its message has been conveyed to man by God's prophets and messengers, including Abrahim, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.

Islam's message has been restored and enforced in the last stage of the religious evolution by God's last prophet and messenger, Muhammad.

The word Allah in the Arabic language means God, or more accurately, The One and Only Eternal God, Creator of the Universe, Lord of all lords, King of all kings, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful. The word Allah to mean God is also used by Arabic speaking Jews and Christians. cool
Reluctant Samurai
Llorin
Reluctant Samurai
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Thank you.

Thanks for giving excuses to the terrorists sharing their religion. That's great!

Thanks for promoting an ideology that kills innocents everyday. I'm glad...
Thanks for financing -with your hajj and zakat- terrorist organitzations.
Thanks for choicing Islam which is the most violent and intolerant religion that have ever existed in the earth. Thank you.
Thanks for the insults in the koran...
Certainly, I don't know how to thank you all these nice actions.


So wait, now I'm promoting terrorist ideaology?

You are ******** bat-s**t insane. Learn how to speak English properly and come up with an argument not riddled with fallacies, you ******** zealot.


yes.
Thank you.
But I will never insult anybody.
Thank you. I'm glad to hear your words.
Thank you.


You've done nothing but insult honest and good Muslim men, women, and children by equivocating their peaceful practices with the beliefs of misguided extremists who use and twist Islam to justify their political ambitions.

You're disgusting.


The innocent Muslims have no options: They must be Muslims or face jihad.

"O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors; they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. (The Noble Quran, 5:51)"

"O ye who believe! Take not for friends and protectors those who take your religion for a mockery or sport - whether among those who received the Scripture (i.e., the Bible) before you, or among those who reject Faith; but fear ye Allah, if ye have Faith (indeed). (The Noble Quran, 5:57)"

"Yea, to those who take for friends unbelievers rather than believers: is it honour they seek among them? Nay,- all honour is with God. (The Noble Quran, 4:139)"


Come on...With these verses -among much worse others you know- who will be a non-Muslim (innocent people) in a Muslim community?

Thank you very much...

Tipsy Genius

da_wall
Has Islam been twisted into a system that it was not origianly, has the world moved on and it has been left in the era where women were secondary and democracy was non-existant.
eg when islam orriginaly came about wasn't it quite radical when it came to womens rights, and now it is veiwed to be holding them back.
Terroism, anyone know what the koran says about it, I have my suspicions that the terroists are using islam as almost an excuse to be violent.
what are your veiws?

All religions have used god as an excuse to be violent. Not just the muslims. ALL religions have. And the only reason why the girls have to 'cover up' is to prevent hookers and sluts and filth. I personally think though, that girls who cover up like that are a bit to extreme with the religion.

To answer your first question, yes it has been twisted up. No one really cared about Islam until the two towers fell and now everyone thinks that all muslims are terrorists when really Islam preaches about love and peace.

Tipsy Genius

GlossyBee
Islam is derived from the Arabic root "Salema": peace, purity, submission and obedience. In the religious sense, Islam means submission to the will of God and obedience to His law.

Everything and every phenomenon in the world other than man is administered totally by God-made laws, ie. they are obedient to God and submissive to his laws, they are in the State of Islam. Man possesses the qualities of intelligence and choice, thus he is invited to submit to the good will of God and obey His law, ie, become a Muslim.

Submission to the good will of God, together with obedience to His beneficial Law, ie, becoming a Muslim, is the best safeguard for man's peace and harmony.

Islam dates back to the age of Adam and its message has been conveyed to man by God's prophets and messengers, including Abrahim, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.

Islam's message has been restored and enforced in the last stage of the religious evolution by God's last prophet and messenger, Muhammad.

The word Allah in the Arabic language means God, or more accurately, The One and Only Eternal God, Creator of the Universe, Lord of all lords, King of all kings, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful. The word Allah to mean God is also used by Arabic speaking Jews and Christians. cool

Wow you really know your stuff. Good job wink
Much the same could be said about Christianity. Christianity and Islam are much more similiar than people would like to admit, with the same level of violence in their holy scriptures, the same level of contempt for non-believers, the same ideas about the place of women, the same God of Israel creating the same world, the same first humans, the same angels, directing the same holy figures, and oh yeah: they both have Jesus.

Only in a Muslim's view the Jewish and Christian scripture have been too messed around with and Islam is the final, correct, result of the worship of God.



*sigh* Much of the world is all bickering over the same damn God, it's sad really.

Dapper Werewolf

Llorin
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here is the misconception: only like 10% of islam is the radical kind we hear about on the news.

islam as a whole is not corrupt. there are just different branches of it, like we find in all other religions. there are three main ones, and one of those three just happens to be radical and dangerous.

most muslims believe in charity, fasting, praying five times a day, and making a pilgramage once in their life. a small percentage of muslims actually believe in the "kill the infedels" crap. AVERYSMALLPERCENTAGE


No, they want to believe in charity, fasting, praying, and they want to make a peaceful life far away from Islam, but Islam commands to kill those who leave Islam and its opponents like Christians or others. As 95% of Muslims live in a Islamic state, they can not leave Islam, this fact create a strong Islamic endoctrination in the youth.



ACTUALLY only one of the three branches believe in the 6th pillar, which is the holy war or "kill the infedels"
tourniquetsmile
Llorin
tourniquetsmile
here is the misconception: only like 10% of islam is the radical kind we hear about on the news.

islam as a whole is not corrupt. there are just different branches of it, like we find in all other religions. there are three main ones, and one of those three just happens to be radical and dangerous.

most muslims believe in charity, fasting, praying five times a day, and making a pilgramage once in their life. a small percentage of muslims actually believe in the "kill the infedels" crap. AVERYSMALLPERCENTAGE


No, they want to believe in charity, fasting, praying, and they want to make a peaceful life far away from Islam, but Islam commands to kill those who leave Islam and its opponents like Christians or others. As 95% of Muslims live in a Islamic state, they can not leave Islam, this fact create a strong Islamic endoctrination in the youth.



ACTUALLY only one of the three branches believe in the 6th pillar, which is the holy war or "kill the infedels"


Idiot. There are only 5 pillars of Islam. confused Jihad is made for defence.
[Beautiful Oblivion]
GlossyBee
Islam is derived from the Arabic root "Salema": peace, purity, submission and obedience. In the religious sense, Islam means submission to the will of God and obedience to His law.

Everything and every phenomenon in the world other than man is administered totally by God-made laws, ie. they are obedient to God and submissive to his laws, they are in the State of Islam. Man possesses the qualities of intelligence and choice, thus he is invited to submit to the good will of God and obey His law, ie, become a Muslim.

Submission to the good will of God, together with obedience to His beneficial Law, ie, becoming a Muslim, is the best safeguard for man's peace and harmony.

Islam dates back to the age of Adam and its message has been conveyed to man by God's prophets and messengers, including Abrahim, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.

Islam's message has been restored and enforced in the last stage of the religious evolution by God's last prophet and messenger, Muhammad.

The word Allah in the Arabic language means God, or more accurately, The One and Only Eternal God, Creator of the Universe, Lord of all lords, King of all kings, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful. The word Allah to mean God is also used by Arabic speaking Jews and Christians. cool

Wow you really know your stuff. Good job wink


Which laws? Sharia? I don't understand why these laws give so many privilegies to male Muslims if we all are his creation...
I don't understand why I must pay jaziyah if I'm a Christian instead of a Muslim...
Llorin
[Beautiful Oblivion]
GlossyBee
Islam is derived from the Arabic root "Salema": peace, purity, submission and obedience. In the religious sense, Islam means submission to the will of God and obedience to His law.

Everything and every phenomenon in the world other than man is administered totally by God-made laws, ie. they are obedient to God and submissive to his laws, they are in the State of Islam. Man possesses the qualities of intelligence and choice, thus he is invited to submit to the good will of God and obey His law, ie, become a Muslim.

Submission to the good will of God, together with obedience to His beneficial Law, ie, becoming a Muslim, is the best safeguard for man's peace and harmony.

Islam dates back to the age of Adam and its message has been conveyed to man by God's prophets and messengers, including Abrahim, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.

Islam's message has been restored and enforced in the last stage of the religious evolution by God's last prophet and messenger, Muhammad.

The word Allah in the Arabic language means God, or more accurately, The One and Only Eternal God, Creator of the Universe, Lord of all lords, King of all kings, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful. The word Allah to mean God is also used by Arabic speaking Jews and Christians. cool

Wow you really know your stuff. Good job wink


Which laws? Sharia? I don't understand why these laws give so many privilegies to male Muslims if we all are his creation...
I don't understand why I must pay jaziyah if I'm a Christian instead of a Muslim...

jaziyah?
Suki_Chan_Kaggy
Llorin
[Beautiful Oblivion]
GlossyBee
Islam is derived from the Arabic root "Salema": peace, purity, submission and obedience. In the religious sense, Islam means submission to the will of God and obedience to His law.

Everything and every phenomenon in the world other than man is administered totally by God-made laws, ie. they are obedient to God and submissive to his laws, they are in the State of Islam. Man possesses the qualities of intelligence and choice, thus he is invited to submit to the good will of God and obey His law, ie, become a Muslim.

Submission to the good will of God, together with obedience to His beneficial Law, ie, becoming a Muslim, is the best safeguard for man's peace and harmony.

Islam dates back to the age of Adam and its message has been conveyed to man by God's prophets and messengers, including Abrahim, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad.

Islam's message has been restored and enforced in the last stage of the religious evolution by God's last prophet and messenger, Muhammad.

The word Allah in the Arabic language means God, or more accurately, The One and Only Eternal God, Creator of the Universe, Lord of all lords, King of all kings, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful. The word Allah to mean God is also used by Arabic speaking Jews and Christians. cool

Wow you really know your stuff. Good job wink


Which laws? Sharia? I don't understand why these laws give so many privilegies to male Muslims if we all are his creation...
I don't understand why I must pay jaziyah if I'm a Christian instead of a Muslim...

jaziyah?


aka. Humilation tax for protection...
whoever made this thread really doesn't care about
people who actually have this religion
islam is soo not about fighting
and i don't wanna be rude but islam has never changed
its book is always the same but if u look at other religions it constantly changes u never know wats the real truth
people who worship other things beside God believe that this "stone" can
help them and do not know that their making a fool of themselves
and how can god have a son? did adam(pbuh) not have a father either
wat makes jesus his son? adam didn't even have a mother why can't adam be the son of god? now doesn't christianity have 3 gods? the holy spirit father and son? now i specifically heard that they all have to be there to make trinity but didn't jesus die for our sins? (why would anyone die for our sins..) so how can the holy spirit and father exist when the son disappeared? sry i'm just asking..btw women cover themselves for a reason i mean we know we're pretty but men want to have their own pleasures when a women doesn't reveal herself mean of course don't think of doing anything with her covering is for our safety if allah didn't care about women then why protect us from those filthy men
i know women looks like it has the worst part of the religion but when u learn more about it it's really a good thing
now don't get me wrong but doens't christianity have the thing we can do watever we want? we can eat watever we want? does violence not count? really other religions don't even know more about their own then to critize other ppls but hey there are always good/bad ppl to one's religion so don't just think islam is bad i really love this religion so it hurts one ppl say stuff like this i have christian friends and i say wrong in their religion as they see in mine but hey we're human and we all have feelilngs
plz learn more about islam and see why this happends everything happens for a reason...
I honestly don't enjoy how my culture is being rated usually as a terrorist location just by their culture from some people. <(

You would be surprised honestly if you were smart enough to actually see things for yourself and see that Islam is peaceful even though maybe a few make it seem terrible; a few people is not enough to label a country so easily.



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eg when islam orriginaly came about wasn't it quite radical when it came to womens rights, and now it is veiwed to be holding them back.


Islam holds respect towards women though some see it as holding back though the rights of women in this religion has grown.

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I have my suspicions that the terroists are using islam as almost an excuse to be violent.


I'm not blaming anyone but this is slightly what I mean as terrorism shouldn't only be suddenly bringing up the idea of Islam upon hearing it. ^^

Please don't be offended if you find any my words to be. I am not hear to go against any other religion but just wish to state a bit of mines without angering anyone else...=)
I am Muslim.

I was born Muslim and have been learning about my religion since forever. I am 23 years old at the moment so I probably know quite a little bit about Islam wink

So if anyone has any questions, just let me know and I'll be happy to answer any of your questions.

As for fighting, yes we Muslims are told to fight in the Qur'an, we fight against those that fight us and those that oppress people, but we are told to be most kind and just to those people that do not fight us.

Here let me quote the Qur'an:

It may be that Allah will bring about friendship between you and those whom you hold to be your enemies among them; and Allah is Powerful; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice.

Allah only forbids you respecting those who made war upon you on account of (your) religion, and drove you forth from your homes and backed up (others) in your expulsion, that you make friends with them, and whoever makes friends with them, these are the unjust.


Quran 60: 7-9

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Lecter_83
I am Muslim.

I was born Muslim and have been learning about my religion since forever. I am 23 years old at the moment so I probably know quite a little bit about Islam wink

So if anyone has any questions, just let me know and I'll be happy to answer any of your questions.

As for fighting, yes we Muslims are told to fight in the Qur'an, we fight against those that fight us and those that oppress people, but we are told to be most kind and just to those people that do not fight us.

Here let me quote the Qur'an:

It may be that Allah will bring about friendship between you and those whom you hold to be your enemies among them; and Allah is Powerful; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice.

Allah only forbids you respecting those who made war upon you on account of (your) religion, and drove you forth from your homes and backed up (others) in your expulsion, that you make friends with them, and whoever makes friends with them, these are the unjust.


Quran 60: 7-9

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As for fighting, yes we Muslims are told to fight in the Qur'an, we fight against those that fight us and those that oppress people, but we are told to be most kind and just to those people that do not fight us.


I don't want to hurt your feelings and I respect your physical and psicological integrity, your sex, your sexual orientation -if it doesn't harm to anyone- and your race but I can not accept your faith and religion which is the direct cause of sufferings of so many people like no other religion -with great diference-.

Those statements are not true and you know it...just check your religious scriptures.

Bukhari:V4B52N220 "Allah's Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror.'"
Qur'an:8:12 "I shall terrorize the infidels. So wound their bodies and incapacitate them because they oppose Allah and His Apostle."
Qur'an:8:57 "If you gain mastery over them in battle, inflict such a defeat as would terrorize them, so that they would learn a lesson and be warned."
Ishaq:326 "If you come upon them, deal so forcibly as to terrify those who would follow, that they may be warned. Make a severe example of them by terrorizing Allah's enemies."
Qur'an:8:67 "It is not fitting for any prophet to have prisoners until he has made a great slaughter in the land."
Ishaq:588 "When the Apostle descends on your land none of your people will be left when he leaves."
Tabari IX:42 "We have been dealt a situation from which there is no escape. You have seen what Muhammad has done. Arabs have submitted to him and we do not have the strength to fight. You know that no herd is safe from him. And no one even dares go outside for fear of being terrorized."
Ishaq:326 "Allah said, ‘No Prophet before Muhammad took booty from his enemy nor prisoners for ransom.' Muhammad said, ‘I was made victorious with terror. The earth was made a place for me to clean. I was given the most powerful words. Booty was made lawful for me. I was given the power to intercede. These five privileges were awarded to no prophet before me.'"
Ishaq:327 "Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.'"
Qur'an:7:3 "Little do you remember My warning. How many towns have We destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our punishment overtook them."
Ishaq:510 "When the Apostle looked down on Khaybar he told his Companions, ‘O Allah, Lord of the Devils and what into terror they throw, and Lord of the winds and what they winnow, we ask Thee for the booty of this town and its people. Forward in the name of Allah.' He used to say this of every town he raided."
Bukhari:V5B59N512 "The Prophet offered the Fajr Prayer [Prayer of Fear] near Khaybar when it was still dark. He said, ‘Allahu-Akbar!' [Allah is Greatest] Khaybar is destroyed, for whenever we approach a hostile nation to fight, then evil will be the morning for those who have been warned.' Then the inhabitants came out running on their roads. The Prophet had their men killed; their children and woman were taken as captives."

Further, I see *****, incest, rape, murder, kidnapping, ransom, the slave trade, theft, lying, bribery, fear-mongering, the removal of choice, and terrorism as bad. I’m not so polluted by political correctness to be afraid of telling you the truth: these behaviors are immoral - they are wrong. And since the overwhelming preponderance of the words contained in the Qur'an, Sira, Ta’rikh, and Hadith are dedicated to depicting Muhammad, and the first Muslims, engaged in these things, I see Islam as bad because its scriptures justify, even glorify grotesque behavior.

...Moreover, if you think that God picked a money-grubbing terrorist to reveal his last message to mankind, your ability to reason has been destroyed. Anyone who trusts the Qur'an’s repeated promise to reward those who fight in Allah’s Cause with multiple virgins and rivers that flow with wine is a fool. And ask yourself: if Muhammad’s words and deeds need to be completely recast to make Islam appear moral, worthy, and good, is it and are they?

...well, in fact, I don't think you really believe in Allah or Islam...you are just jailed...

...may the truth set you free from the religion of submission.

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