FAQs About Mormonism - Discussion

[Nephina]

Se Ga Takai

]Were you baptized in the name of Mormon? Or Christ?

They are baptised in the name of Christ
"Having been commissioned of Jesus Christ, I baptise you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen."
That is the prayer that is used when one is baptised.

[Pyropyre]

[Darkslider]

Pyropyre

Do all "servants of God" hold the priesthood? You can still be a servant of God and not hold the priesthood.

According to the Book of Mormon. . . yes. All servants of God hold the priesthood.

Take for example, Alma. He was not a member of Christ's Church, he did not have the priesthood. . . then suddenly, he is baptizing people and giving blessings. There was no Angelic visitations to give him the priesthood, he just started using it.

The Book of Mormon is rank with people who are merely "servants of God" that have the priesthood.

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Gadianton

Se Ga Takai

]Were you baptized in the name of Mormon? Or Christ?

They are baptised in the name of Christ
"Having been commissioned of Jesus Christ, I baptise you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen."
That is the prayer that is used when one is baptised.

Really? I was Baptized in the name of Christ, as well. What's the Difference?

[Speck-Cipher]

Se Ga Takai

Gadianton

Se Ga Takai

]Were you baptized in the name of Mormon? Or Christ?

They are baptised in the name of Christ
"Having been commissioned of Jesus Christ, I baptise you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen."
That is the prayer that is used when one is baptised.

Really? I was Baptized in the name of Christ, as well. What's the Difference?

"Having been commissioned of Jesus Christ,"
I would say priesthood authority. One needs to have permission from God to do things that are both sealed on earth and in heven, other wise when a person dies the promeses of that person who baptized you ceases.
Hence the promise of marriage "Till death do you part." With priesthood authority you have the promise to bind things here on Earth an in heven.
Thus is it said at our marriage "for time and all eternity." Does this not also apply to baptism.

[Nephina]

Se Ga Takai

Gadianton

Se Ga Takai

]Were you baptized in the name of Mormon? Or Christ?

They are baptised in the name of Christ
"Having been commissioned of Jesus Christ, I baptise you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen."
That is the prayer that is used when one is baptised.

Really? I was Baptized in the name of Christ, as well. What's the Difference?

Any differance??/ I believe you asked a question "Were you baptised in the name of Mormon? Or Christ?" I was merley answering your question

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Speck-Cipher

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Gadianton

Se Ga Takai

]Were you baptized in the name of Mormon? Or Christ?

They are baptised in the name of Christ
"Having been commissioned of Jesus Christ, I baptise you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen."
That is the prayer that is used when one is baptised.

Really? I was Baptized in the name of Christ, as well. What's the Difference?

"Having been commissioned of Jesus Christ,"
I would say priesthood authority. One needs to have permission from God to do things that are both sealed on earth and in heven, other wise when a person dies the promeses of that person who baptized you ceases.
Hence the promise of marriage "Till death do you part." With priesthood authority you have the promise to bind things here on Earth an in heven.
Thus is it said at our marriage "for time and all eternity." Does this not also apply to baptism.

I would consider "Priesthood Authority" teh Same as "Position in the Church", I was Baptized by a Pastor, which is teh SDA Equivelant to your Bishop, if not higher. So I see it as the same.

Gadianton

Any differance??/ I believe you asked a question "Were you baptised in the name of Mormon? Or Christ?" I was merley answering your question

I was making a point. We were both Baptized in teh Name of Christ. You were not Baptized in the Name of Mormon, or Moroni, or Joseph Smith, But Christ. The same goes for me, I was not Baptized in the name of Ellen G. White, But Christ.

1 Corinthians 1:12-15

12 What I mean is that each one of you says, "I follow Paul," or "I follow Apollos," or "I follow Cephas," or "I follow Christ."
13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?
14 I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius,
15so that no one may say that you were baptized in my name.

Get it yet? We may have been raised going to Church on Different Days, and different Buildings, Baptized by Different People, but we were all Baptized for the same reason, In the name of the Savior.

Get it now?

[Nephina]

how about we converse about this over a nice game of fishing

[Houshou]

Gadianton

how about we converse about this over a nice game of fishing

because all our schedules conflict, gtg im at work... ninja

[Boxy]

Se Ga Takai

I would consider "Priesthood Authority" teh Same as "Position in the Church", I was Baptized by a Pastor, which is teh SDA Equivelant to your Bishop, if not higher. So I see it as the same.

...only the "priesthood authority" in the LDS church is a lay authority. Most likely his father baptized him, not his bishop. If you honestly believe that your pastor was called of God, then the authority is exactly the same, in your beliefs.

My general opinion for the legitimacy of a baptism is that a person must believe that the ordination was from a direct line of priesthood authority. Otherwise the baptism is utterly vain and foolish - who can honestly believe in a baptism performed by an unclean hand? sweatdrop

Se Ga Takai

I was making a point. We were both Baptized in teh Name of Christ. You were not Baptized in the Name of Mormon, or Moroni, or Joseph Smith, But Christ. The same goes for me, I was not Baptized in the name of Ellen G. White, But Christ.

...but the LDS Church refuses to ratify any baptism that it itself has not performed. I would consider that fairly good recordkeeping practice rather than as a condemnation of any remnant priesthood authority in the earth.

Take, for example, the hereditary priesthood of Aaron. If there were legitimate extra-LDS priests out there in the world that were baptizing people in the name of Christ, would the baptism in and of itself not be legitimate? Yet without the proper records and authentification of the baptism, I don't believe that the LDS Church could honestly accept the baptism, and would most likely re-baptize the individual just in case.

[Speck-Cipher]

Se Ga Takai

Speck-Cipher

Se Ga Takai

Gadianton

Se Ga Takai

]Were you baptized in the name of Mormon? Or Christ?

They are baptised in the name of Christ
"Having been commissioned of Jesus Christ, I baptise you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen."
That is the prayer that is used when one is baptised.

Really? I was Baptized in the name of Christ, as well. What's the Difference?

"Having been commissioned of Jesus Christ,"
I would say priesthood authority. One needs to have permission from God to do things that are both sealed on earth and in heven, other wise when a person dies the promeses of that person who baptized you ceases.
Hence the promise of marriage "Till death do you part." With priesthood authority you have the promise to bind things here on Earth an in heven.
Thus is it said at our marriage "for time and all eternity." Does this not also apply to baptism.

I would consider "Priesthood Authority" teh Same as "Position in the Church", I was Baptized by a Pastor, which is teh SDA Equivelant to your Bishop, if not higher. So I see it as the same.

What did he say when he baptized you?

[Nephina]

Boxy

Se Ga Takai

I would consider "Priesthood Authority" teh Same as "Position in the Church", I was Baptized by a Pastor, which is teh SDA Equivelant to your Bishop, if not higher. So I see it as the same.

...only the "priesthood authority" in the LDS church is a lay authority. Most likely his father baptized him, not his bishop. If you honestly believe that your pastor was called of God, then the authority is exactly the same, in your beliefs.

My general opinion for the legitimacy of a baptism is that a person must believe that the ordination was from a direct line of priesthood authority. Otherwise the baptism is utterly vain and foolish - who can honestly believe in a baptism performed by an unclean hand? sweatdrop

One could consider the fact that pastors recieve their authority from man. They go to school and study for an amount of time, then they recieve a document that they have such authority to start their own church or to expand an exsisting belief.
On the other hand LDS claims that their "authority" comes from God. How Christ said that He was the true vine as He stated in John. He gave his apostles their authority. John the baptist gave JS the priesthood that he recieved. (If you remember his father was a temple worker and had such authority to confer.) In turn Peter, James, and John as resurrected beings gave to JS the higher or Melchezideck Priesthood, who they recieved from Christ by the laying on of hands.

[Darkslider]

Gadianton

Boxy

Se Ga Takai

I would consider "Priesthood Authority" teh Same as "Position in the Church", I was Baptized by a Pastor, which is teh SDA Equivelant to your Bishop, if not higher. So I see it as the same.

...only the "priesthood authority" in the LDS church is a lay authority. Most likely his father baptized him, not his bishop. If you honestly believe that your pastor was called of God, then the authority is exactly the same, in your beliefs.

My general opinion for the legitimacy of a baptism is that a person must believe that the ordination was from a direct line of priesthood authority. Otherwise the baptism is utterly vain and foolish - who can honestly believe in a baptism performed by an unclean hand? sweatdrop

One could consider the fact that pastors recieve their authority from man. They go to school and study for an amount of time, then they recieve a document that they have such authority to start their own church or to expand an exsisting belief.

What is the MTC? Do not missionaries go to a "school", study for an amount of time? Do they not receive a document that says they are now "pastors". I have one of those cards. So, there goes that argument.

Gadianton

On the other hand LDS claims that their "authority" comes from God.

No, LDS claim that their priesthood comes from God. Same as (pure speculation to follow) 95% of all Christian denominations.

[Se Ga Takai]

Houshou

Gadianton

how about we converse about this over a nice game of fishing

because all our schedules conflict, gtg im at work... ninja

And I'm about to go to work. sweatdrop

[Nephina]

Darkslider

What is the MTC? Do not missionaries go to a "school", study for an amount of time? Do they not receive a document that says they are now "pastors". I have one of those cards. So, there goes that argument.

Maybe. You are right missionaries do go to the MTC and I myself have one of those cards. One doesn't only get that authority when they are on a mission. A Priest holds that same authority to baptise as well as other ordinances such as the sacrament. In turn a father has the authority to baptise their children. One doesn't lose that authority because they date on the card expires.