My reason that Im a Christian

[ParsonCollins]

burning infinity

nice story, but you can't prove any of it.

EDIT: wait, you were 11 and you wanted to commit suicide? You need a shrink, not a church.

This post is a bigoted attack on someone who has a propensity for suicide. Why would you say "nice story, but you can't prove it" to a suicidal person unless you are a cold heartless scumbag? Just wondering. I suppose it is because her lifeline is a church and you don't like churches. Hence even though religion has given her a reason to live, you hate religion so much that you would rather she got depressed than to let her have what makes her feel better.

Saying "you need a shrink, not a church" makes me think that you are arrogant and heartless. Do you know that many psychologists actually refer suicides to churches when they cannot help them. Alcoholics Anonymous developed the 12 step program using an Ignatian Meditation program (based upon Roman Catholicism) and which requires a higher power to succeed. By "working the program" people with various problems from alcoholism, to suicide can work out their problems. But one thing they all need to do this is a "higher power" even atheist AA requires that one seek and identify a higher power to surrender to.

It is surrendering that helps people to get past the idea that they are "bad" that life is hopeless and that they have no meaning in their lives. Psychologists cannot always help and Psychiatrists will give prescriptions for antidepressents, just like any MD can also do. But talk therapy has done very little, clinically for suicidal people.

Therefore I must conclude that you are a heartless a$$ who, if she said chocolate saved her life would then tell her chocolate will make her fat for you really have no nobility nor compassion nor knowledge and insight to you.

Or else your anti-religious bigotry just outweighs ever other potentially good and noble thing about you. Remember yourself and how you treated others the next time you have a bad day.

[AxeSlayerMiyavi]

Whenever I see a thread like this I can't help to think that the person had been brainwashed. Because the wording in the OPer's post sounds a lot like a whole bunch of other Christian rhetoric. It's a shame, really, that people can't be bothered to do any research or look into something that conflicts with the ideas and beliefs that they come to know.

[ParsonCollins]

AxeSlayerMiyavi

Whenever I see a thread like this I can't help to think that the person had been brainwashed. Because the wording in the OPer's post sounds a lot like a whole bunch of other Christian rhetoric. It's a shame, really, that people can't be bothered to do any research or look into something that conflicts with the ideas and beliefs that they come to know.

Like your post is not full of brainwashed cliches ... "it is a shame really" where is your research. I wager you know absolutely nothing about Christianity nor precious little about Western Civilization.

[Always Angry Guy]

Christianity is bad, and you should FEEL BAD for believing in it.

[Shonsu]

AxeSlayerMiyavi

Whenever I see a thread like this I can't help to think that the person had been brainwashed. Because the wording in the OPer's post sounds a lot like a whole bunch of other Christian rhetoric. It's a shame, really, that people can't be bothered to do any research or look into something that conflicts with the ideas and beliefs that they come to know.

*nods*
Like it or not, there is an uncomfortably large ammount of brain washing not only in the christian faith, but in most monotheistic widespread religion. They call it another name though.

I was talking to someone who told me that they were saved at the age of five which, if you've taken any basic developmental psychology courses, is exceedingly unrealistic. The human brain doesnt fully develop untill after the age of 21, the frontal lobe (where you make descisions and proper judgment) is the last part to develop.

Thats how the brain washing happens. They force their ideas into the childs mind at a time when they dont have the propper cognitive ability to make mature and rational desicions for them selves with an introspective and exospectrive eye. So what happens when an Idea gets lodged into a kids mind when its still just growing? It stays there and they dont ever question it because they were taught that it is infallable and irrefutable. That starts a nasty chain reaction that makes them do the some thing with their kids and so on and so forth (unless one breaks the chain by having awful ADD in sunday school, like myself XD).

Im quite positive that if you held off on teaching the actual theological aspects of religion untill a later age and then introduced them, let the older mind see them and make a desicion based on what they think and not what someone tells them to think, the population of the christian faith would drop by about two thirds, maybe more. Of course, that doesnt mean that you couldnt raise the child with the moral fiber and kind natured value that you want; you should just hold off on the fanciful stories of talking plants that light themselves on fire and command that you build boats.

[AxeSlayerMiyavi]

ParsonCollins

AxeSlayerMiyavi

Whenever I see a thread like this I can't help to think that the person had been brainwashed. Because the wording in the OPer's post sounds a lot like a whole bunch of other Christian rhetoric. It's a shame, really, that people can't be bothered to do any research or look into something that conflicts with the ideas and beliefs that they come to know.

Like your post is not full of brainwashed cliches ... "it is a shame really" where is your research. I wager you know absolutely nothing about Christianity nor precious little about Western Civilization.

You're asking for research in what area?

[ParsonCollins]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaah

Christianity is bad, and you should FEEL BAD for believing in it.

Oh Bullshit. I love being a Christian and attending St. Andrews University in Scotland ... the Oldest college in Scotland and one of the oldest in Europe, which by the way were all Christian.

I love the art, music and culture of Christianity. Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, all the greats were Christians and they all wrote and composed and painted for the Church.

What a know-naught this post above is. Where do you get your silly information and lack of education?




Today the the Feast of Queen St. Margaret. But you are too poorly educated to know it! I feel terrific for believing it and for having a gloriously undeprived education.

[ParsonCollins]

AxeSlayerMiyavi

ParsonCollins

AxeSlayerMiyavi

Whenever I see a thread like this I can't help to think that the person had been brainwashed. Because the wording in the OPer's post sounds a lot like a whole bunch of other Christian rhetoric. It's a shame, really, that people can't be bothered to do any research or look into something that conflicts with the ideas and beliefs that they come to know.

Like your post is not full of brainwashed cliches ... "it is a shame really" where is your research? I wager you know absolutely nothing about Christianity nor precious little about Western Civilization.

You're asking for research in what area?

As I said, Western Civilization. Duh! Come to my profile and I will give you a few clues. Music, art, architecture, chivalry, courtesy, everything we know and love comes out of Christianity you dolt.

[Seraphor]

ParsonCollins

burning infinity

nice story, but you can't prove any of it.

EDIT: wait, you were 11 and you wanted to commit suicide? You need a shrink, not a church.

This post is a bigoted attack on someone who has a propensity for suicide. Why would you say "nice story, but you can't prove it" to a suicidal person unless you are a cold heartless scumbag? Just wondering. I suppose it is because her lifeline is a church and you don't like churches. Hence even though religion has given her a reason to live, you hate religion so much that you would rather she got depressed than to let her have what makes her feel better.

Saying "you need a shrink, not a church" makes me think that you are arrogant and heartless. Do you know that many psychologists actually refer suicides to churches when they cannot help them. Alcoholics Anonymous developed the 12 step program using an Ignatian Meditation program (based upon Roman Catholicism) and which requires a higher power to succeed. By "working the program" people with various problems from alcoholism, to suicide can work out their problems. But one thing they all need to do this is a "higher power" even atheist AA requires that one seek and identify a higher power to surrender to.

It is surrendering that helps people to get past the idea that they are "bad" that life is hopeless and that they have no meaning in their lives. Psychologists cannot always help and Psychiatrists will give prescriptions for antidepressents, just like any MD can also do. But talk therapy has done very little, clinically for suicidal people.

Therefore I must conclude that you are a heartless a$$ who, if she said chocolate saved her life would then tell her chocolate will make her fat for you really have no nobility nor compassion nor knowledge and insight to you.

Or else your anti-religious bigotry just outweighs ever other potentially good and noble thing about you. Remember yourself and how you treated others the next time you have a bad day.

I'm afraid the Christian Bigotry far outweighs any anti-Christian bigotry currently present in this thread.

[Anardana]

Those aren't explanations, they are beliefs.

Yes we know. Some people love God. Oh lovely lovely God.

Some people get on with their lives and don't talk about their reiligion every 10 paces.

Others don't believe in God at all.

When all of those people die, if they have lead a good life I doubt any of them would suffer. So why worry.

[Anardana]

ParsonCollins

burning infinity

nice story, but you can't prove any of it.

EDIT: wait, you were 11 and you wanted to commit suicide? You need a shrink, not a church.

This post is a bigoted attack on someone who has a propensity for suicide. Why would you say "nice story, but you can't prove it" to a suicidal person unless you are a cold heartless scumbag? Just wondering. I suppose it is because her lifeline is a church and you don't like churches. Hence even though religion has given her a reason to live, you hate religion so much that you would rather she got depressed than to let her have what makes her feel better.

Saying "you need a shrink, not a church" makes me think that you are arrogant and heartless. Do you know that many psychologists actually refer suicides to churches when they cannot help them. Alcoholics Anonymous developed the 12 step program using an Ignatian Meditation program (based upon Roman Catholicism) and which requires a higher power to succeed. By "working the program" people with various problems from alcoholism, to suicide can work out their problems. But one thing they all need to do this is a "higher power" even atheist AA requires that one seek and identify a higher power to surrender to.

It is surrendering that helps people to get past the idea that they are "bad" that life is hopeless and that they have no meaning in their lives. Psychologists cannot always help and Psychiatrists will give prescriptions for antidepressents, just like any MD can also do. But talk therapy has done very little, clinically for suicidal people.

Therefore I must conclude that you are a heartless a$$ who, if she said chocolate saved her life would then tell her chocolate will make her fat for you really have no nobility nor compassion nor knowledge and insight to you.

Or else your anti-religious bigotry just outweighs ever other potentially good and noble thing about you. Remember yourself and how you treated others the next time you have a bad day.

That plan doesn't require a higher power to succeed or it would be definitive proof of God of which there is none. Didn't God himself say that proof denies faith and he would cease to exist.

It requires belief. And if she or you can't hold onto your beliefs when others question them then you should take a look at how strong your beliefs really are.

Why is it heartless to not molicoddle someone just because they considered suicide? It wasn't his fault, he didn't cause that depression.
Suicidal depression is when people cannot cope with life. So learning to cope with life helps a lot more than tiptoeing round them keeping them on the edge of depression learning nothing.

[ParsonCollins]

Seraphor

ParsonCollins

burning infinity

nice story, but you can't prove any of it.

EDIT: wait, you were 11 and you wanted to commit suicide? You need a shrink, not a church.

This post is a bigoted attack on someone who has a propensity for suicide. Why would you say "nice story, but you can't prove it" to a suicidal person unless you are a cold heartless scumbag? Just wondering. I suppose it is because her lifeline is a church and you don't like churches. Hence even though religion has given her a reason to live, you hate religion so much that you would rather she got depressed than to let her have what makes her feel better.

Saying "you need a shrink, not a church" makes me think that you are arrogant and heartless. Do you know that many psychologists actually refer suicides to churches when they cannot help them. Alcoholics Anonymous developed the 12 step program using an Ignatian Meditation program (based upon Roman Catholicism) and which requires a higher power to succeed. By "working the program" people with various problems from alcoholism, to suicide can work out their problems. But one thing they all need to do this is a "higher power" even atheist AA requires that one seek and identify a higher power to surrender to.

It is surrendering that helps people to get past the idea that they are "bad" that life is hopeless and that they have no meaning in their lives. Psychologists cannot always help and Psychiatrists will give prescriptions for antidepressents, just like any MD can also do. But talk therapy has done very little, clinically for suicidal people.

Therefore I must conclude that you are a heartless a$$ who, if she said chocolate saved her life would then tell her chocolate will make her fat for you really have no nobility nor compassion nor knowledge and insight to you.

Or else your anti-religious bigotry just outweighs ever other potentially good and noble thing about you. Remember yourself and how you treated others the next time you have a bad day.

I'm afraid the Christian Bigotry far outweighs any anti-Christian bigotry currently present in this thread.

Cute bird, but you did not support your argument. That cartoon is not a debate. In fact, you have utterly failed to make your point and are not thinking. Looks like you are the one who is brainwashed at your own pedagogical homeschool.

[ParsonCollins]

Anardana

ParsonCollins

burning infinity

nice story, but you can't prove any of it.

EDIT: wait, you were 11 and you wanted to commit suicide? You need a shrink, not a church.

This post is a bigoted attack on someone who has a propensity for suicide. Why would you say "nice story, but you can't prove it" to a suicidal person unless you are a cold heartless scumbag? Just wondering. I suppose it is because her lifeline is a church and you don't like churches. Hence even though religion has given her a reason to live, you hate religion so much that you would rather she got depressed than to let her have what makes her feel better.

Saying "you need a shrink, not a church" makes me think that you are arrogant and heartless. Do you know that many psychologists actually refer suicides to churches when they cannot help them. Alcoholics Anonymous developed the 12 step program using an Ignatian Meditation program (based upon Roman Catholicism) and which requires a higher power to succeed. By "working the program" people with various problems from alcoholism, to suicide can work out their problems. But one thing they all need to do this is a "higher power" even atheist AA requires that one seek and identify a higher power to surrender to.

It is surrendering that helps people to get past the idea that they are "bad" that life is hopeless and that they have no meaning in their lives. Psychologists cannot always help and Psychiatrists will give prescriptions for antidepressents, just like any MD can also do. But talk therapy has done very little, clinically for suicidal people.

Therefore I must conclude that you are a heartless a$$ who, if she said chocolate saved her life would then tell her chocolate will make her fat for you really have no nobility nor compassion nor knowledge and insight to you.

Or else your anti-religious bigotry just outweighs ever other potentially good and noble thing about you. Remember yourself and how you treated others the next time you have a bad day.

That plan doesn't require a higher power to succeed or it would be definitive proof of God of which there is none. Didn't God himself say that proof denies faith and he would cease to exist.

It requires belief. And if she or you can't hold onto your beiefs when others question them then you should take a look at how strong your beliefs really are.

SOURCE PLEASE. According to AA it does require a higher power and you cannot prove otherwise. I am not having trouble holding on to my beliefs you are. You are the one who is threatened by my knowledgeable rebuttal to bigotry.

[Always Angry Guy]

ParsonCollins

Today the the Feast of Queen St. Margaret. But you are too poorly educated to know it!

Mostly it's that I just don't care about some bullshit "feast." What day of the calendar ISN'T some kind of feast, in the Catholic Calendar?

Do you really think your god wants you to gorge yourself on food every ******** day of the year?

The fact of the matter is, by openly declaring your allegiance, you are forcing your religion upon me. I do not take well to that. Hide your shame, or don't believe it at all.

[ParsonCollins]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaah

ParsonCollins

Today the the Feast of Queen St. Margaret. But you are too poorly educated to know it!

Mostly it's that I just don't care about some bullshit "feast." What day of the calendar ISN'T some kind of feast, in the Catholic Calendar?

Do you really think your god wants you to gorge yourself on food every ******** day of the year?

The fact of the matter is, by openly declaring your allegiance, you are forcing your religion upon me. I do not take well to that. Hide your shame, or don't believe it at all.

Well, once again you have revealed your lack of information. "Feast" does not mean a meal. It is also "festival" and fete which means a celebration.

Also, if you really were not threatened by my information that is superior to yours, you would not resort to using "f-ing" as an adjectivce. That is just low class and shows where you are figuratively speaking.