The Abortion Debate

[Aino Ailill]

clearlyblind

Yeah, they're bad because people can use it as a way to just get rid of an unwanted pregnancy but then they can also help in the case of rape or health issues

What is wrong with getting rid of an unwanted pregnancy? And there are always some level of health issues.

[Aino Ailill]

loveltstone

well still abortions can be good and can be bad in a way.

Good and bad being subjective, of course. Some may view abortion as wholly good, some as wholly bad, some as both, some as neither, some as good in 'x' aspects but otherwise neutral, some as bad in 'y' aspects but otherwise neutral, some as good in 'x' aspects, bad in 'y' aspects, but otherwise neutral.

[loveltstone]

clearlyblind

Yeah, they're bad because people can use it as a way to just get rid of an unwanted pregnancy but then they can also help in the case of rape or health issues

well i can't post a comment without people yelling at me >.< but yeah i feel that if an abortion is what a girl needs then go for it. but i don't like they idea of people using it out of lazyness(spelled it wrong >.< don't yell at me.

[loveltstone]

Aino Ailill

loveltstone

well still abortions can be good and can be bad in a way.

Good and bad being subjective, of course. Some may view abortion as wholly good, some as wholly bad, some as both, some as neither, some as good in 'x' aspects but otherwise neutral, some as bad in 'y' aspects but otherwise neutral, some as good in 'x' aspects, bad in 'y' aspects, but otherwise neutral.

ohhh well im both for and against abortions(although i never really worried about abortions until i saw this thread)

[Talon-chan]

chfbupers

I think abortion is a good thing, because it helps to keep the population growth rate down.

So if the population were tiny it would be ok to force women to undergo an unwanted bodily invasion? What does population have to do with anything? Would you think it acceptable to kill born children, or elderly people, if the population got too large as well? Pro-lifers think fetuses have a right to life, population has nothing to do with that. Pro-choicers believe women have a right to equal treatment under the law, population has nothing to do with that.

clearlyblind

I think that abortion should stay legal, stay a choice of the mother. If somebody is against abortion, that's their opinion, they can choose not to take part in it. But if others believe they should be able to have an abortion, it should be available.

I think that beating your children to death should be legal, it's the choice of the parents. If someone is against beating children to death that's their opinion and they can just not beat their own children to death. But beating your children to death should be available for anyone who wants to do it.

Pro-lifers believe a fetus has a right to life and that a terrible transgression is occurring; asking them to stand by and do nothing is like asking a pro-choicer to stand by and permit other people to beat their children to death. You won't convince anyone that way.

clearlyblind

Yeah, they're bad because people can use it as a way to just get rid of an unwanted pregnancy but then they can also help in the case of rape or health issues

Why should women be punished with an unwanted pregnancy, but those women who are raped get a 'get out of damnation free' card? If a fetus has a right to life why does it matter HOW a woman got pregnant?

[Willypeet]

loveltstone

clearlyblind

Yeah, they're bad because people can use it as a way to just get rid of an unwanted pregnancy but then they can also help in the case of rape or health issues

well i can't post a comment without people yelling at me >.< but yeah i feel that if an abortion is what a girl needs then go for it. but i don't like they idea of people using it out of lazyness(spelled it wrong >< wink don't yell at me.

But thinking about it logically - if someone is irresponsible enough to not use any form of contraception and simply abort every resulting pregnancy without a care in the world, do you really think they will be responsible enough to ensure proper prenatal health throughout their pregnancy, and responsible enough to be a parent?

If someone cares so little about themselves that they cant be bothered to use contraception to avoid unwanted pregnancy and STDS, i'm not entirely sure they would care enough to stop say, drinking or smoking during pregnancy for the sake of the fetus' development and go to their regular pregnancy checkups, much less how they will behave once the child is born.

[Grinsender Teufel]

If a woman wants to get an abortion, that is her right.


I don't think I could ever get one, but women should still have that option available to them.

[loveltstone]

Phrynia

loveltstone

clearlyblind

Yeah, they're bad because people can use it as a way to just get rid of an unwanted pregnancy but then they can also help in the case of rape or health issues

well i can't post a comment without people yelling at me >.< but yeah i feel that if an abortion is what a girl needs then go for it. but i don't like they idea of people using it out of lazyness(spelled it wrong >< wink don't yell at me.

But thinking about it logically - if someone is irresponsible enough to not use any form of contraception and simply abort every resulting pregnancy without a care in the world, do you really think they will be responsible enough to ensure proper prenatal health throughout their pregnancy, and responsible enough to be a parent?

If someone cares so little about themselves that they cant be bothered to use contraception to avoid unwanted pregnancy and STDS, i'm not entirely sure they would care enough to stop say, drinking or smoking during pregnancy for the sake of the fetus' development and go to their regular pregnancy checkups, much less how they will behave once the child is born.

hmmmm guess not what just a question but what exactly happens if a woman smokes and drinks when they're pregnant?

[loveltstone]

RedRoseSpiral

loveltstone

i guess abortions can be good and bad in a way,but why is this thread so long?

The thread is so long because not all people agree with your statement and many of those people want to force their morals onto others instead of letting them choose what is right for themselves.

your right you post your opinion and your being berated for it(clearlyblind) well i respect your opinion.

[Willypeet]

loveltstone

Phrynia

loveltstone

clearlyblind

Yeah, they're bad because people can use it as a way to just get rid of an unwanted pregnancy but then they can also help in the case of rape or health issues

well i can't post a comment without people yelling at me >.< but yeah i feel that if an abortion is what a girl needs then go for it. but i don't like they idea of people using it out of lazyness(spelled it wrong >< wink don't yell at me.

But thinking about it logically - if someone is irresponsible enough to not use any form of contraception and simply abort every resulting pregnancy without a care in the world, do you really think they will be responsible enough to ensure proper prenatal health throughout their pregnancy, and responsible enough to be a parent?

If someone cares so little about themselves that they cant be bothered to use contraception to avoid unwanted pregnancy and STDS, i'm not entirely sure they would care enough to stop say, drinking or smoking during pregnancy for the sake of the fetus' development and go to their regular pregnancy checkups, much less how they will behave once the child is born.

hmmmm guess not what just a question but what exactly happens if a woman smokes and drinks when they're pregnant?

fetal alcohol syndrome, among other developmental deformities and disabilities, some life threatening and others extremely crippling.

http://www.ehealthmd.com/library/smokingpreg/SAP_affect.html

[Talon-chan]

Its Koto!

If a woman wants to get an abortion, that is her right.


I don't think I could ever get one, but women should still have that option available to them.

Why, this is ED; opinion dropping is no good.

[loveltstone]

Its Koto!

If a woman wants to get an abortion, that is her right.


I don't think I could ever get one, but women should still have that option available to them.

right on yeah i don't think i would get an abortion either

[loveltstone]

Phrynia

loveltstone

Phrynia

loveltstone

clearlyblind

Yeah, they're bad because people can use it as a way to just get rid of an unwanted pregnancy but then they can also help in the case of rape or health issues

well i can't post a comment without people yelling at me >.< but yeah i feel that if an abortion is what a girl needs then go for it. but i don't like they idea of people using it out of lazyness(spelled it wrong >< wink don't yell at me.

But thinking about it logically - if someone is irresponsible enough to not use any form of contraception and simply abort every resulting pregnancy without a care in the world, do you really think they will be responsible enough to ensure proper prenatal health throughout their pregnancy, and responsible enough to be a parent?

If someone cares so little about themselves that they cant be bothered to use contraception to avoid unwanted pregnancy and STDS, i'm not entirely sure they would care enough to stop say, drinking or smoking during pregnancy for the sake of the fetus' development and go to their regular pregnancy checkups, much less how they will behave once the child is born.

hmmmm guess not what just a question but what exactly happens if a woman smokes and drinks when they're pregnant?

fetal alcohol syndrome, among other developmental deformities and disabilities, some life threatening and others extremely crippling.

awww

[Grinsender Teufel]

Talon-chan

Its Koto!

If a woman wants to get an abortion, that is her right.


I don't think I could ever get one, but women should still have that option available to them.

Why, this is ED; opinion dropping is no good.

I thought the ED was bulit on opinions?

D: ?

Sorry, I'm new to this...

[loveltstone]

Its Koto!

Talon-chan

Its Koto!

If a woman wants to get an abortion, that is her right.


I don't think I could ever get one, but women should still have that option available to them.

Why, this is ED; opinion dropping is no good.

I thought the ED was bulit on opinions?

D: ?

Sorry, I'm new to this...

i am too