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I can't use God to defend these babies, becuase I understand you don't believe in him, and for that you are damned.

Damned by you or by something a lot of us consider your imaginary friend. *pause* Not a problem.

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However, if you want to play that game, killing off babies before they are born still isn't strengthening the horde. Your doing it because you are selfish, not to make your species greater.

Wanting to make our species greater seems pretty selfish. There's no logical reason to do it, that I'm aware of, and so far as I can tell it all comes down to our own happiness. Selfishness.

Of course, there's nothing wrong with good dose of that. <3

And I can see how it *would* potentially strengthen the horde. Contributions now, from the woman, or shortly, from the girl, instead of in about two decades, from the fetus - if it survives.


Wow how cruel and cold hearted you are. There is nothing wrong with killing babies, just as long as it makes you happy. Yes, how pathetically inmorale you are. You people must be raise in homes that lack love. You are like selfish 9 year olds.

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Articlion

Though you claim to not be murders, you still however are killers.


Yup. Never claimed not to be.

Articlion
And you are okay with killing babies.


Fetuses. I'm ok with killing fetuses. I stop short of killing neonates and above, thanks.

Articlion
Your a baby killer, and for what? Because your to lazy to get a decent job and support it?


See also: American economics, cost of living, cost of daycare, and the fact that there are only 24 hours in a given day.

Articlion
Because you are a whore and can't keep your legs closed?


Such a healthy view of sex you have.

Articlion
Because you make irresponsible decisions?


My responsibility extends to not breeding because it's bad for the planet. That you disagree with this code of responsibility does not make it less responsible.

Articlion
Because your careless?


Research, effort, financial expenditures... yeah, I've put a bunch of care into not getting pregnant.

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Articlion
If you believe that we have souls, then you believe in a higher power. Because something put that soul there.


False assumption. It is possible that souls evolved from chaos in the same way life may have.
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Articlion

Though you claim to not be murders, you still however are killers.


Yup. Never claimed not to be.

Articlion
And you are okay with killing babies.


Fetuses. I'm ok with killing fetuses. I stop short of killing neonates and above, thanks.

Articlion
Your a baby killer, and for what? Because your to lazy to get a decent job and support it?


See also: American economics, cost of living, cost of daycare, and the fact that there are only 24 hours in a given day.

Articlion
Because you are a whore and can't keep your legs closed?


Such a healthy view of sex you have.

Articlion
Because you make irresponsible decisions?


My responsibility extends to not breeding because it's bad for the planet. That you disagree with this code of responsibility does not make it less responsible.

Articlion
Because your careless?


Research, effort, financial expenditures... yeah, I've put a bunch of care into not getting pregnant.


Mant Americans can support thier households, why can't you? Are you well educated? Have you bother to goto College, and actually learn something. Highschool isn't the end all be all of education. Sure, people can come out of both college and highschool and be on the TOP or BOTTOM of society, but more often then not, you come out of college on the top. Also, if your having sex with multiple partners, you are, by most standards a whore. Thats a healthy view in integrity.

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Articlion
And if you believe in a heaven or hell, you must have taken that from the bible correct?


Because there have never been any OTHER holy texts or divinities that depict paradise and an underworld. Except for Egyptian, Greco-Roman, Norse, Native American, Native African, and Asian divinities.
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Articlion
If you believe that we have souls, then you believe in a higher power. Because something put that soul there.


False assumption. It is possible that souls evolved from chaos in the same way life may have.


Sure, just like say....my imaginary friend then right? Is it not possible that God was formed from this rift? Or are you saying this just to potentially disprove me. Arguing only in your favor, and not of facts?

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Articlion


Mant Americans can support thier households, why can't you? Are you well educated? Have you bother to goto College, and actually learn something. Highschool isn't the end all be all of education. Sure, people can come out of both college and highschool and be on the TOP or BOTTOM of society, but more often then not, you come out of college on the top. Also, if your having sex with multiple partners, you are, by most standards a whore. Thats a healthy view in integrity.


Many Americans are also thousands of dollars in debt. Not a good thing to use to assert worthiness.

And having sex with a lot of people doesn't make you a whore. Having sex for money makes you a whore, which loosely means that every married woman without her own job can be classified as a whore. Until I start performing oral sex for My Little Ponies, I'm not a whore. Wait. s**t. Guess I am a whore. Ah well. It's my life.

And it's pretty unhealthy to assume that people not having sex the way you want them to are "whores." Didn't that Jesus guy hang out with hoes anyways?
Articlion
Wow how cruel and cold hearted you are.

Hm, I keep getting things like that here. I'm going to start believing it at this rate.

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There is nothing wrong with killing babies,

Of course there is; it's murder. Have you forgotten my other posts?

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just as long as it makes you happy.

Everyone is selfish. Everything can be put down to us wanting to be happy, even things that supposedly only benefit others - 'cause, say, when one gives to charity or whatever, one often feels like a better person, a contributer to society, blahblahblah.

Such is my worldview. "Cold" and "selfish" doesn't mean bad, kthx.

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Yes, how pathetically inmorale you are. You people must be raise in homes that lack love. You are like selfish 9 year olds.

Immoral? No, not even remotely. If I had no morals, it wouldn't trouble me to know that I place a higher priority on one over another, would it?

My familiy situation does and did not lack in love. Where *do* you pull this stuff from, and how's the humidity there?

Selfish, yes. Nine, no. My understanding of the world is far more advanced than the average nine-year-old's, so far as I've noted.
I am so sick of the arguement that if a woman "spreads her legs" and consents to sex, that they should be forced to carry a fetus to term. What about men?! Why is it that I never see a pro-punishment person say, "Well, the guy should have kept his d**k in his pants"? Because that's just as relevent.

Another thing they don't seem to take into account is that many young girls are pressured into having sex. Isn't the man more at fault because he pressured a young and naive girl into consenting to sex? Because she most likely wouldn't have had sex with him otherwise. Why is it that men aren't held accountable for their actions? Why is it that when a woman has sex outside of marriage, they are sluts, but when a man has sex outside marriage, they're congratulated by their friends as if it's a major conquest? It's the exact same thing. And it's not fair that women are punished for it, and a man can just walk away and forget.

And for anyone who thinks that if you can afford to get an abortion, you can afford to have a child, are you serious?!! Do you have any idea how much everything costs. An average family in the US will pay between $150,000 to $200,000 per child, up to the age of 17.

Articlion
Yes sex is a wonderful beautiful thing that God has given us. However, do any of these animals go out and abort thier babies?


Actually, there are many species of animals that activily abort their young, and many who will kill their young even after they are born.

Rats are capable of triggering the release of a hormone that initiates abortions. Someone I talk to on another forum mentioned her experiences in breeding rats for the pet store she works for. She was having trouble with them, because they kept miscarrying, so she studied the subject to find out what was going on. It turned out that they didn't like their cagemates and were actively aborting the fetuses. She had to break them up into different cages to get them to breed successfully.

Some types of felines and primates induce abortions by eating certain toxic herbs. They have been known to do this in times when the food isn't as plentiful as it could be. They aren't starving themselves, they are just too lazy to bring their young into the world if they actually have to work hard to feed them.

Rabbits have the physical ability to abort the fetuses if there is overcrowding, if food is scarce, if the pregnant female is too young, too weak, etc.

Many species will kill their young that are already born. A cheetah will kill her own cubs if she is injured. She knows she can no longer hunt, so she chooses to kill them, rather than let a predator kill them and her. Her cubs will draw too much attention, and she knows she will not be able to defend them as well as herself, so she will kill them to save her own life.

And don't try the arguement that humans are higher beings than other animals with me. Because it won't work. I don't believe we are better than any other animal. Yes, we have knowledge, we have a conscious, but that doesn't matter. Humans are probably the worst thing to happen to this planet. We have caused more damage than any other species on this planet. We have caused extinction of thousands of species of animals. We have caused so much damage through pollution that it's probably irreparable.

And will you stop with the whole murder thing. Abortion is NOT murder. Murder is a legal term. It defines the UNLAWFUL killing of another person. Abortion is not unlawful, so therefore, it is not murder.
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Articlion


Mant Americans can support thier households, why can't you? Are you well educated? Have you bother to goto College, and actually learn something. Highschool isn't the end all be all of education. Sure, people can come out of both college and highschool and be on the TOP or BOTTOM of society, but more often then not, you come out of college on the top. Also, if your having sex with multiple partners, you are, by most standards a whore. Thats a healthy view in integrity.


Many Americans are also thousands of dollars in debt. Not a good thing to use to assert worthiness.

And having sex with a lot of people doesn't make you a whore. Having sex for money makes you a whore, which loosely means that every married woman without her own job can be classified as a whore. Until I start performing oral sex for My Little Ponies, I'm not a whore. Wait. s**t. Guess I am a whore. Ah well. It's my life.

And it's pretty unhealthy to assume that people not having sex the way you want them to are "whores." Didn't that Jesus guy hang out with hoes anyways?


Whore- A person considered sexually promiscuous.

Yes i guess you are a whore.

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