Evolution: Fact Or Fiction

Whats your religion?

Atheist	39.4%	[ 1145 ]
Protestant	16.9%	[ 491 ]
Catholic	14.0%	[ 408 ]
Hindu	1.3%	[ 38 ]
Muslim	1.8%	[ 53 ]
Jew	2.3%	[ 67 ]
Buddhist	5.1%	[ 149 ]
Greek Orthodox	0.7%	[ 21 ]
Pagan	14.2%	[ 413 ]
Egyptian	4.2%	[ 122 ]
Total Votes:			[ 2907 ]

[Goldy#1]

Maze1125

Goldy#1

Evolution is about proving how life started.

No it isn't.
Evolution is about explaining how life changes.

Your right. I'll change that:

Evolution is not a threat to creation and creation is not a threat to evolution. The only way these two become a threat to each other is when people change what they are really about. The creation story is not about how life started it is about who started it. Evolution is not about proving that there is not a creator it is the process of how life changes over time.

[Renor_Elghinn]

Goldy#1

Maze1125

Goldy#1

Evolution is about proving how life started.

No it isn't.
Evolution is about explaining how life changes.

Your right. I'll change that:

Evolution is not a threat to creation and creation is not a threat to evolution. The only way these two become a threat to each other is when people change what they are really about. The creation story is not about how life started it is about who started it. Evolution is not about proving that there is not a creator it is the process of how life changes over time.

Out of interest; young earth creationism is at odds with evolution as the explanation for how things got as they are now, though.

[ernie]

wrote alot on a tangeant to this discusion . . .

have fun reading this

[Darth Umbreon]

Evolution exits. There are examples of it going on everyday. And it isn't just the evolution over long periods of time either. People evlove emotionally over time, day by day, month by month, year by year, and decade by decade if they live that long.

[ernie]

i think we call that "growing up"

[Regeika]

The evolution theory (if it can even be called that) Is telling how organisms respond to changes in the environment, how they respond to certian stimuli and the stresses that it causes to the organisms, causing them to mutate, those unable to adapt to changes die off. Now wrap this around your skullz.

1. Things that dont adapt to changes die off... Those that were fervent believers in christianity be it matyrdom, plague, civil unrest, whatever the cause they died off, proving that the religion of the western world do not adapt to the changes in the people around them, Therefore it fades into the shadow of the religion it once was.

2. The evolution theory is not (as one would presume from the name) about evolution. It is de-evolution, Civilization as you call it, Is an evil. Law, Justice, These are words for the weak. Those who acnnot atain what is necessary should and will die off. billions of yen, dollars, euros are put into the hands of the weak for what? so that they can buy Things of course! But the money goes to the business, the money from that business, to other businesses and their employees for what? So that they can spend it in this never ending cycle. What purpose does it serve? Do you think your Governments are concerned with that foolish paper? The world deals in gold, silver, tradeable goods. that paper avails you nothing. The system it has built is as weak as the material on which vanity potraits are painted. The global depression, The Economic scare of the terrorist attacks in America. The confusion in pitiful Attempts to unite the world under one currency. Think of the American dollar "this note is legal tender for all debts, public and private" It is no more than a promisary note, A plaything handed to Denizens of a nation not unlike that of a rattle handed to a child.
2b. Justice. Who had the audacity to come up with such a word. The weak use "justice" to protect themselves from the strong. for what? You take a man to court for stealing your riches, you hand over some of those riches to your countries "judiciary" systems. Some for you laywer, If anything was broken pay for the damages, and in some instances he can sue you for paper if he's hurt in the process? your law has become far too strict. encompassing the entire aspect of ones life from where they can sleep to where they can expectorate and even die! You mustn't break the law, surely you will be punished. Not if you are stronger. Smarter, More effecient. these binds that hold us are of our own making. That is why you wake up, dreading the day ahead, dreading school or your work, dealing with pissant people who are upset for the same reasons that you are! Where is your purpose! you spend your days striving to what end? Paper notes? for waht to pass them on to your offspring? Then what? Then they repeat the process. Your fortune means nothing! Show me your gold, show me why you even need to be alive! you've never known true life.! The entire human race has become like an insolent child who clutches at his mother heels in a vain attempt to re-enter the womb. Show me your good, your evil. Where is your enemy? your great obsticle to overcome? Some of you may say you get paid a lot of money, that you have a nice car, and you adorn your significant other with jewels. To that, i call you a coward. How have you earned it? Who did you best? Who did you outwit? When you have slain another man, or bested him. and you pry the ring off of his cold dead fingers as his life force seeps down the end of your sword, then, you are a man. Then! You are alive.

[Regeika]

sorry for page-stretching

[Natas Ferret]

Regeika, that was the longest, most pointless diatribe I have seen any produce, in regards to this topic.
And it was quite a laugh, thanks.

Just keep in mind that it is those socialistic visionaries that allow you the possibility to vent the frustration, that you hold ire of the system, in such a manner.
If it wasn't in place... Personally I like the semi-enforcement of a social contract.
I don't think any modern society would be able to flourish, if it was shifted towards an utterly free boundary.

Afterall, humans are social creatures. It's one of the reasons such a social evolution has become the power it is now. Humans function radically different when kept in utter isolation.

[Regeika]

Natas Ferret

Regeika, that was the longest, most pointless diatribe I have seen any produce, in regards to this topic.
And it was quite a laugh, thanks.

Just keep in mind that it is those socialistic visionaries that allow you the possibility to vent the frustration, that you hold ire of the system, in such a manner.
If it wasn't in place... Personally I like the semi-enforcement of a social contract.
I don't think any modern society would be able to flourish, if it was shifted towards an utterly free boundary.

Maybe if things had started in such a way... But, not anymore.

you still cling to the thought of society, of the united. Trust me I would rather slaughter in order to spread my ideals, but alas these bonds are to tight to break free. Acknowledging the fact that I left the topic far behind. I do enjoy rambling. If you would like perhaps we can move this debate to another forum.

[Regeika]

I am the third... is that in reference to Orson Scott Cards "Enders Game"?

[Spiteful_Sage]

EDIT: removed, Natas Ferret already said what I intended to.

[ClechePriers]

Am I the only one who's tired of hearing people say the "believe in evolution"? I mean, it's gotten to the point now where we've pretty much witnessed evolution. There are species of elephant that no longer grow tusks because they were being hunted to extinction with them. Not to mention numerous other examples of similar changes. So do I really have to "believe" in this anymore?

[Noogie]

ClechePriers

Am I the only one who's tired of hearing people say the "believe in evolution"? I mean, it's gotten to the point now where we've pretty much witnessed evolution. There are species of elephant that no longer grow tusks because they were being hunted to extinction with them. Not to mention numerous other examples of similar changes. So do I really have to "believe" in this anymore?

I'm a supporter of evolution, but can I have a source for these elephants?

[salister]

sorry just had to point out that there should be at least one other catorgry on the poll called other unless your going to put them all up.....

[Noogie]

Atheism shouldn't be on there because it's not a religion.