Has Jesus returned yet? If not, how do you explain verses in which he clearly claimed that he would return to the generation to whom he first appeared? (Mark 13:30, Matthew 16:28) Not to mention all the myriad of verses Paul and other NT writers wrote in which they claim again and again that Jesus will be coming soon.
That was one reason I left Christianity, thanks to Sandokiri. Of course, she wasn't saying that to me. I was hanging on with what I believed at the time. The other part were Christians who treated those of the liberal flavor as "so-called Christians". I remained a theist for a while, then a deist, then a pantheist, and finally an atheist.
I've been blocked from Grasshopper's thread, so I thought I might reply to you here. Hope you don't mind.
To be honest, in a roundabout way, the issue of the timeline Jesus gives was also why I stopped being a Christian. Not in and of itself, because I was a preterist -- I believed that yes, Jesus meant generation when he said it, and therefore that meant that he had already returned, only his return was a spiritual return, and the end of the world stuff was symbolic for the end of the Old Covenant (and I still think this is the best interpretation of what Jesus was saying when you compare it to the same kind of language used in the OT about the end of nations and so on). But it got me thinking about how I believed something so utterly untrue for so long (that Jesus' return was sometime in the future) simply because that's what I was told, and I started reading the Bible. A couple read-through's later, and I no longer accepted it as inerrant truth, and that was the beginning of the end for me. It got me questioning everything about what I believed and why I believed it, and I eventually came to the conclusion that I didn't believe in any kind of God (though I searched through a few other religions for a while, until I realized they didn't have any more compelling reasons to believe than Christianity did).
Personally, I think atheists should bring up the generation issue more often because it's ridiculously easy to win a debate about it, and even if the Christian in question doesn't ever admit to being wrong, it gets them thinking. And thinking is good.
And Sandokiri is one smart cookie. I always enjoy reading her posts.
I'm doing quite all right! Another snowy day, but the storm is officially over, hehe. I have Prince of Egypt playing for the kids, but Chad's pretty darn grumpy that he doesn't seem to care at all. He just wants to torture Daron it seems, psh.
That would feel so nice to do! I haven't slept in in what feels like ages, hehe. Today is definitely one of those days to pick a few good movies, get all snuggly on the couch and sip at hot cocoa. Mmmm..
What's on your agenda for today? I remember you wanted to get jogging done.
I’m all right this morning. There is a snowstorm going on right now, so I feel sleepy and a bit achy. Chad’s just wandering around the house like a little zombie and cuddling up against me when I sit down, hehe.