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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:55 am
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Well, recently i've been pretty darn confused and plagued by questionable thoughts...
Ever since I learned of the sexes, and how they work, the taboos and effects, i've been fascinated with homosexuality. I let nothing stop me in fully experimenting and learning everything about homosexuality, as soon as I hit age 15. Up until that point, I was "straight".
Every insult thrown at me, every harsh joke about the subject, ever argument and reassurance over the years have made me strong. I wouldn't change a thing about everything I put myself through.
But, recently a very confusing thought has come to mind. "So... what's the big deal, anyway?" What's fueling that fascination, hunger, drive for my homosexual orientation? Is it just my love of the taboo? Or is it litterally something we're born with? Or, is it life experience? Something more? Something less?
I'm seme. If you can believe it. surprised Only on gaia do I behave any way otherwise. Only reason I bring this up is because, and I don't know if i'm the only one that's concidered it, semes are closer to being basicly straight than anything.
And, as soon as that thought rushed through my head, my little gay flare died down a bit. My whole personality shifted slightly. I didn't feel any better or worse than before, but something -was- and -is- different.
Though, I still can't help but feel the classic homosexual feelings, wants, behaviors, I just.. something's off. I feel like I owe something to somebody, that I -should- be gay. That that's how it's suppose to be, or something bad will happen. And, here I go with the confusion again. surprised
So, what do you think out there?
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:25 pm
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Maybe instead of trying to define yourself, you should just be yourself. Nobody can tell you how you're supposed to be -- they don't know. They're not you. Sure, there are 'social norms' that some people expect, but obviously not everyone is going to fit into those brackets and it would be stupid to try and make it so. Forgive me for using a trite comment, but not a lot of young people know who they are yet. During someone's teenage years, their bodies and minds change a lot and they don't always have a firm grasp of what they want or what tendancies they have. I distinctly remember having a very different opinion of what I wanted when I was 13 or 14. I remember perceiving myself as one thing and wanting to be another, because the thing I wanted had a name and "was normal" and what I was didn't and "was not". When I was 16, my self image started to solidify, but it still underwent changes. I'm 21 now, and I'm fairly certain of, shall we say, 'what I am'. That's not to say that I'll never change.
I don't know for sure what causes sexual orientation. I've taken to believing that it's a mix of nature and nurture... You're who you are because of a mix of genetic predisposition and life experiences, especially during certain developmental stages. Some of it is 'choice', too... I think that people can change a great many things about themselves if they are ready and willing. If you add my religious POV, a person can change anything about themselves if this change is part of God's will. But again, they're not going to change if they don't choose to.
Regarding being "closer to straight than anything": I think it would be very hard to aim for something on "the gay scale" and shoot for it, if you know what I mean. In my opinion, it can't be very helpful to tell yourself, "You know, I'm pretty sure I'm supposed to be 15% more gay," when you seem to still be figuring out what you want. I think you're looking for a label... a group or a description to define you. But that won't help you find out who you are. Labels are rigid and, if you're using them as a guideline, restricting. Do you need to label yourself now? Is it helpful for you to don one, and use it to explain yourself to others? Are you looking for one so you can feel associated with something?
Find yourself, and then look for a label that matches. Don't pick a label and then design yourself after it.
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 10:39 pm
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:03 pm
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:44 am
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Thanks all for the comments, i'll definately keep alot of that in mind. I'm already starting to feel some o' that cloud of confusion clear up. Or, maybe a cloud o' illusion? of some sort...?
I'll especially keep most of what Grayed said in mind. You were right about most of that, aside from the "looking for a lable to build myself around" thing. I'm not trying to do that. @_@ Lables honestly were the last thing in mind.
And thanks for your point of view, Guacamole. I'm actually relating a little to that. Most of the time, i'm only interested in girl + girl, or guy + guy. And while i'll draw/do "things" with girls, i'm still more leaniant to liking guys. o_O
But, I don't really (now) like either. Always been fairly empty in love-terms, I guess now i'm just feeling it more...? Though i'm still stickin' in the male+male light because... heck, I don't know. I really don't.
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:57 am
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:56 pm
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Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:12 am
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A cretain explanation to why homosexuality was wrong really lit things up for me at my church. Please understand tha t I do not want anyone to be offended by this.
Homosexual questioning is a temptation that the devil sends. We all have had it. Some stronger than others. You see, when you are hit with these kind of temptations, you really look at Christianity in a different light because the world tells you it's fine, but God tells you it's wrong.
In my opinion, it's a curse. The devil, like God can see past, present, and future, he knows no time. Purhaps he sees the most destructive path for you, and leads you to it? Purhaps he sees the children you could have and influence/bring to Christ in the future?
I'm not going to say all these things about homosexuality being okay, but I am also not gong to say that it is a sexual perversion or anything like that .
It's just a thing Satan tempts us with, curses us with, and we can not defeat it without God.
And all God's children said Amen.
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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:06 pm
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Sessal A cretain explanation to why homosexuality was wrong really lit things up for me at my church. Please understand tha t I do not want anyone to be offended by this.
Homosexual questioning is a temptation that the devil sends. We all have had it. Some stronger than others. You see, when you are hit with these kind of temptations, you really look at Christianity in a different light because the world tells you it's fine, but God tells you it's wrong.
In my opinion, it's a curse. The devil, like God can see past, present, and future, he knows no time. Purhaps he sees the most destructive path for you, and leads you to it? Purhaps he sees the children you could have and influence/bring to Christ in the future?
I'm not going to say all these things about homosexuality being okay, but I am also not gong to say that it is a sexual perversion or anything like that .
It's just a thing Satan tempts us with, curses us with, and we can not defeat it without God.
And all God's children said Amen.
I don't know think that Satan can see the past, present, and future. If he did, then how come he would attempt to wage war with God at the end if he knows he's going to lose?
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:32 am
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:40 am
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:29 pm
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I'll say this once and only once. You'll probably be offended by this, so no one send me hate mail or anything: Homosexuality is wrong! These people here are trying to coddle you. "You don't have to fit a label.", or "It's just fine." Or "Pastors will tell you homosexuality is fine, so it's O.K!". To an extent this is right. Except for the last thing. Those pastors are morons. Actually, only the first thing is sort of right. You don't have to fit a label. Certain labels. Homosexuality is completely abnormal! God made us with strange bodies, and urges, but those urges are tests! Tests of faithfulness! I believe Pornography or any sort of stripper, hooker, or sex outside of marriage is wrong, too! Most of us fall soemtime or another, but God still forgives! But back on subject! Homosexuality is abnormal! It only appeared((generally)) in pagan societies! Early followers of God, not Jesus, weren't gay! God made us in His own image! Can you see Him having gay sex?! If you can, you have a sick mind.
Oh, yeah. You're wrong about the whole "Most of us have a gay encounter." That's just stupid.
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:24 am
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Luthos of the MoonClan I'll say this once and only once. You'll probably be offended by this, so no one send me hate mail or anything: Homosexuality is wrong!.
You do have a right to your opinion but so do other people. If your going to make these kinds of arguments you best be prepared to suffer for it. Though I'll try to keep this polite heart
Quote: These people here are trying to coddle you. "You don't have to fit a label.", or "It's just fine." Or "Pastors will tell you homosexuality is fine, so it's O.K!". To an extent this is right. Except for the last thing. Those pastors are morons.
Well its nice of you to make vast statements against whole branches of the christian faith, as to their being "morons." You might disagre with them but that dosent make them morons. You will need to provide some evidence that they are in fact morons or else we must assume they are in fact not morons.
Quote: Actually, only the first thing is sort of right. You don't have to fit a label. Certain labels. Homosexuality is completely abnormal! God made us with strange bodies,
I must admit im confused by your opinion on what is normal. Gays are abnormal, but so is the human bodie? Homosexuality is refered to as a minority normality. Its reocurrence across all cultures and belifes, and its appearence in the god created animal kingdom, point towards a normality occuring only a minority of the time.
Quote: and urges, but those urges are tests! Tests of faithfulness! I believe Pornography or any sort of stripper, hooker, or sex outside of marriage is wrong, too!
Well you see, homosexuality and everything you just listed have one majour diference. Jesus told us they are wrong cuase they are lust filled activities. Gay relationships within the confines of marriage under god, are built upon love, not lust. And love is a god thing as far as jesus goes.
Quote: Most of us fall soemtime or another, but God still forgives!
Everyone is fallen say but Jesus.
Quote: But back on subject! Homosexuality is abnormal! It only appeared((generally)) in pagan societies! Early followers of God, not Jesus, weren't gay!
I think I pointed out that homsexuality is current in all past and present factions of human society. That includes early jewish and christian faith groups. Some evidence even points out that early christians may of have a friendly relationship with homsexuality, and some early popes are counted as gay(though this is contested so im not going to argue this). So its not just pagans.
Quote: God made us in His own image! Can you see Him having gay sex?! If you can, you have a sick mind.
Many other faiths protray god as having homosexual relations and I wouldent count them all as sick. But in christianity, god is generaly not protrayed as having any sexual relations with humans. Unless you count his relationship with the church. So when god made us in his image, that dont dosent mean were perfect copies cuase god dosent have sex.
well maby he does, it wouldent be a good idea to presume anything bout god.
Quote: Oh, yeah. You're wrong about the whole "Most of us have a gay encounter." That's just stupid
Here I agree. That would be like saying Ive had a stright encounter. Aint ever happened. Some people migh have moments of confusion but not everyone does.
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:10 pm
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:52 pm
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