Homosexuality is a sin; it's unnatural.

[marzipancakes]

So is the internet and probably a lot of the food you eat, and an endless list of other things that are a part of your daily lives.  

[Kazydi]

Please don't. Kthxbye.  

[Austin Shipp]

8====> + <====8 = HELL
8====> + () = happy god approved fun, ( Kids dont try this at home)  

[Xahmen]

Try reading Leviticus, you'll find a whole slew of things that are sins that we do everyday.
Like eating shellfish.  

[marzipancakes]

Kazydi - Don't what? Hmmm?

Austin - Yep, even if the two "8====>'s" are in love and the "8====>" and the "()"are just having a drunken, regrettable, one-night stand. smile

Zahmen - So basically everyone is going to hell over something or other.  

[Kazydi]

sheheartsthings

Kazydi - Don't what? Hmmm?

You know exactly what I'm talking about.  

[tigerflute]

Zahmen

Try reading Leviticus, you'll find a whole slew of things that are sins that we do everyday.
Like eating shellfish.

This is incorrect. The only things things that are sins are those things that go against the ten commandments. Yes there are lots of rules in Leviticus, but these are rules that we no longer need to follow. The New Testament makes this very clear. One example is in Acts chapter 10 when God shows Peter that it is okay to eat animals that were in the Old Testament referred to as unclean.

As for the original question, yes homosexual acts are a sin. However internet and food are not sinful(although some things on the internet are sinful and idolizing food or the internet would be sinful). Although it must always be kept in mind that homosexual acts are not worse than any other sin and we all sin. Just because someone is homosexual doesn't make them any worse than anyone else. Everyone struggles with at least one sin(if not more) and for homosexuals this is just their sin that they struggle with.  

[Xahmen]

tigerflute

Zahmen

Try reading Leviticus, you'll find a whole slew of things that are sins that we do everyday.
Like eating shellfish.

This is incorrect. The only things things that are sins are those things that go against the ten commandments. Yes there are lots of rules in Leviticus, but these are rules that we no longer need to follow. The New Testament makes this very clear. One example is in Acts chapter 10 when God shows Peter that it is okay to eat animals that were in the Old Testament referred to as unclean.

As for the original question, yes homosexual acts are a sin. However internet and food are not sinful(although some things on the internet are sinful and idolizing food or the internet would be sinful). Although it must always be kept in mind that homosexual acts are not worse than any other sin and we all sin. Just because someone is homosexual doesn't make them any worse than anyone else. Everyone struggles with at least one sin(if not more) and for homosexuals this is just their sin that they struggle with.

So could you show me in the Ten commandments where it says that Homosexuality is a sin?
Could you show me in the New Testament where homosexuality is a sin?
Before you bring up "sodomy" you should be made aware that the majority of sodomy that was going on back then was older men upon little boys, and I totally agree that that is a sin.  

[marzipancakes]

tigerflute

The only things things that are sins are those things that go against the ten commandments.

tigerflute

As for the original question, yes homosexual acts are a sin.

What the ********.  

[marzipancakes]

Zahwomen

tigerflute

Zahmen

Try reading Leviticus, you'll find a whole slew of things that are sins that we do everyday.
Like eating shellfish.

This is incorrect. The only things things that are sins are those things that go against the ten commandments. Yes there are lots of rules in Leviticus, but these are rules that we no longer need to follow. The New Testament makes this very clear. One example is in Acts chapter 10 when God shows Peter that it is okay to eat animals that were in the Old Testament referred to as unclean.

As for the original question, yes homosexual acts are a sin. However internet and food are not sinful(although some things on the internet are sinful and idolizing food or the internet would be sinful). Although it must always be kept in mind that homosexual acts are not worse than any other sin and we all sin. Just because someone is homosexual doesn't make them any worse than anyone else. Everyone struggles with at least one sin(if not more) and for homosexuals this is just their sin that they struggle with.

So could you show me in the Ten commandments where it says that Homosexuality is a sin?
Could you show me in the New Testament where homosexuality is a sin?
Before you bring up "sodomy" you should be made aware that the majority of sodomy that was going on back then was older men upon little boys, and I totally agree that that is a sin.

Sorry, didn't read your comment before I replied to hers.  

[tigerflute]

Zahwomen

tigerflute

Zahmen

Try reading Leviticus, you'll find a whole slew of things that are sins that we do everyday.
Like eating shellfish.

This is incorrect. The only things things that are sins are those things that go against the ten commandments. Yes there are lots of rules in Leviticus, but these are rules that we no longer need to follow. The New Testament makes this very clear. One example is in Acts chapter 10 when God shows Peter that it is okay to eat animals that were in the Old Testament referred to as unclean.

As for the original question, yes homosexual acts are a sin. However internet and food are not sinful(although some things on the internet are sinful and idolizing food or the internet would be sinful). Although it must always be kept in mind that homosexual acts are not worse than any other sin and we all sin. Just because someone is homosexual doesn't make them any worse than anyone else. Everyone struggles with at least one sin(if not more) and for homosexuals this is just their sin that they struggle with.

So could you show me in the Ten commandments where it says that Homosexuality is a sin?
Could you show me in the New Testament where homosexuality is a sin?
Before you bring up "sodomy" you should be made aware that the majority of sodomy that was going on back then was older men upon little boys, and I totally agree that that is a sin.

One of the ten commandments says "You shall not commit adultery." (Exodus 20:14) Homosexual acts are a form of adultery and are therefore a sin. I know that it's talked about somewhere in the New Testament, but I don't remember where.  

[marzipancakes]

.....

a⋅dul⋅ter⋅y
   /əˈdʌltəri/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [uh-duhl-tuh-ree] Show IPA
–noun, plural -ter⋅ies.
voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than his or her lawful spouse.

neutral  

[Crimson Raccoon]

Since the question was brought up, here are some passages of the New Testament which concern homosexuality:

Quote:

"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God." - 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

To put the above passage in context, it was written by the apostle Paul to a Christian audience. The point he's making is that those who dwell in such lifestyles are guilty of sinning; however, even someone who has done such things can regardless be forgiven and reconciled to God through Christ. The audience Paul was writing to consisted of many people who had previously been things such as thieves and homosexuals, but who had abandoned those lifestyles to follow Christ.

There are several other passages, from both the Old and New Testaments, which identify homosexuality as a sin, some explicitly, others implicitly. 1 Timothy 1:8-11 is another New Testament passage similar to the above one from 1 Corinthians.

A section of Romans chapter 1 is very interesting because it describes what homosexuality is, as well as the Biblical view of the its causes and effects. Also written by Paul, it is a description of the general progression a people go through who turn away from God.

Quote:

"For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.

Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.

For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.

And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God's decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them."

- Romans 1:18-32

Another issue that was raised, about certain laws found in the Old Testament which are no longer followed today, has an easy answer. The Old Testament makes a distinction between Moral law and Civil Law. Moral law was universal and applied to all mankind; things such as murder, etc. It is the law by which God judges mankind. These laws are summarized in the 10 Commandments. Civil Law would have been the laws of the state; so rather than being universal like the Moral Law, they only applied to the nation of Israel. The New Testament makes it clear that Christians are not under the civil laws of Israel. Rather, Christians are instructed to follow the Civil laws of whatever country we are living in, so long as they do not force us to go against the law of God.

I said that the Moral law is summarized in the 10 Commandments, because the details of what each commandment means are expanded upon throughout the Bible as a whole. Which is why, although homosexuality is not explicitly listed there, if you look at the Commandments in light of the rest of scripture (such as the passages quoted above) it is clear that a homosexual act would be a breaking of the commandment against adultery, a commandment which basically covers all sexual sin.

One famous section of the bible which expands upon the 10 Commandments, is Christ's Sermon on the Mount, found in Matthew 5-7. Here, Christ says that if you hate your brother, you are guilty of murder. And if you just look lustfully after someone, you are guilty of adultery in your heart. The purpose of his message was that no one can keep the law perfectly, whether they be a homosexual or the most religious person in the world, they will never be able to perfectly keep the law and they will all be found guilty by God's judgment. This is why Christ's life and sacrifice are necessary to reconcile men to God, that he could pay the penalty of death instead of us. It is a free gift, you know. wink  

[Scazarith]

First I'd like to point out that there are already more than one threads for discussing homosexuality.

Secondly, don't you people see that this post was specifically made to create an argument?

Please try to be mature and dont start threads designed to create dissention. Also please attempt to be mature by not falling into these sorts of traps.

Yours Kindly,
Scazarith  

[Crimson Raccoon]

Scazarith

First I'd like to point out that there are already more than one threads for discussing homosexuality.

Secondly, don't you people see that this post was specifically made to create an argument?

Please try to be mature and dont start threads designed to create dissention. Also please attempt to be mature by not falling into these sorts of traps.

Yours Kindly,
Scazarith

sheheartsthings was making a point, based on her beliefs about Christianity. It may be true that she was looking for an argument, but nonetheless this thread hasn't degraded into one. At least some of us have been making useful discussion. It's rather unkind to label us as "immature" because we've "fallen into the trap" of using what may be an attempt at arguing as an opportunity for useful discussion. And as for sheheartsthings, her responses may have a challenging tone to them, but they've still all been respectful enough.

As for the fact that there's more than one thread on homosexuality, I think it's a major enough topic to justify that. For me personally, if I am to ever get involved in a discussion, it's much easier to do so if a new one is started rather than diving into one that's been going on for pages.

Come on man, are you the discussion police? xp