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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:12 pm
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Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 12:28 am
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Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:43 pm
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:56 am
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:20 pm
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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:27 pm
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:29 am
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Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:08 pm
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Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:58 pm
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Valandil517 How is giving a thousand times forgiveness not loving?
We are talking about the one sin that can't be forgiven and why do I need to be forgiven if I have done nothing wrong? love is unconditional and having a sin that can't be forgiven puts a condition on god's love and thus it is not love.
Valandil517 How is always watching you not loving?
That is just creepy stare
Valandil517 How is his salvation not loving?
It's conditional (some are rather silly conditions I might add...most are obviously additions made by people wanting nothing more then to control a population and manipulate them to do what they want)
Valandil517 God loves you, but hates sin. He can not be with sin.
That statement never made any sense to me so many contradictions I don't even know where to start
Valandil517 He gives you uncountable chances and forgiveness all through out your life.
apparently not every sin can be forgiven...
Valandil517 He loved us so much that he sent his one and only Son to die for our sins, so that we may not truly die.
Tell me again how this statement makes sense Why did such events need to take place just to keep things simple Either God was board or something or God is not all powerful (the above is not to be take at face value...just in case someone missed my hint...sadly there is a high chance I will get flamed anyway)
Worst DM ever...
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:20 am
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lordstar, I have a question for you - in many of your posts, you mention something negative about dogma. What do you actually think dogma is? Just going from your previous comments in several threads, I'm pretty sure you're working from a different understanding of the word dogma than I am, and I'm just curious what you believe about it.
On topic:
LUKE 12:10, "And everyone that says a word against the Son of Man, that will be forgiven; But he that blasphemes against The Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. MARK 3:29, "Whoever blasphemes against The Holy Spirit will never have forgiveness, but is guilty of everlasting sin." MATTHEW 12: 31-32 "Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. And whoever shall speak a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age, or in the age to come".
Those are the specific quotes being referenced for this discussion, I believe.
To blaspheme against the Holy spirit is to refuse the work He is doing in you.
This Rock It is the refusal to ask for forgiveness, a refusal to repent. "Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, then, is that sin committed by the person who claims to have a ‘right’ to persist in evil—in any sin at all—and who thus rejects redemption" (Dominum et Vivificantem 46). It is the Holy Spirit who convinces us of our sins for the purpose of repentance. So if he makes us aware of sin and we refuse to repent, then it becomes an unforgivable sin. Of course, if we do repent, then we can be forgiven. "There are no limits to the mercy of God, but anyone who deliberately refuses to accept his mercy by repenting rejects the forgiveness of his sins and the salvation offered by the Holy Spirit. Such hardness of heart can lead to final impenitence and eternal loss" (CCC1864).
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Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:43 pm
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:52 am
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:53 am
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:19 pm
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lordstar Valandil517 Ya, for if you don't accept Jesus Christ as your savior, then there is nothing shielding you from God's wrath upon the sinners. For by the blood of Jesus we were forgiven. I do not think that there is another one. if what you say is true then I see only one practical thing to do rebel against an unjust wrathful god what happened to the love lost in dogma I think
Well, why would you rebel against the creator of the universe? Your creator, and sustainer? That seems kinda' pointless to me...
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