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lordstar

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:41 pm
wow that was long

was his death for nothing?

No, it brought about a lot of change
Bible stories aren't working here  
PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:36 pm
lordstar Wrote:
wow that was long

was his death for nothing?

No, it brought about a lot of change
Bible stories aren't working here


those arent Bible storys, they are SOME of the prophecies, to the nation of ISREAL(the Jews) about the comming Messiah. YSHW fullfills them all.  

promised_child

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lordstar

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 10:58 pm
promised_child Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:
wow that was long

was his death for nothing?

No, it brought about a lot of change
Bible stories aren't working here


those arent Bible storys, they are SOME of the prophecies, to the nation of ISREAL(the Jews) about the comming Messiah. YSHW fullfills them all.


sounds like bible stories to me...  
PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:36 pm
lordstar Wrote:
promised_child Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:
wow that was long

was his death for nothing?

No, it brought about a lot of change
Bible stories aren't working here


those arent Bible storys, they are SOME of the prophecies, to the nation of ISREAL(the Jews) about the comming Messiah. YSHW fullfills them all.


sounds like bible stories to me...


i think you are the first jew ive met, who when argueing his point from a jewish standing calls the bible "stories" do you not believe the history of your own people? and is the tittle JEW just something you like to throw around? i would like to know your stance on things, but if you are just throwing around words, please dont waste time, it slips by to fast.  

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lordstar

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:04 am
promised_child Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:
promised_child Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:
wow that was long

was his death for nothing?

No, it brought about a lot of change
Bible stories aren't working here


those arent Bible storys, they are SOME of the prophecies, to the nation of ISREAL(the Jews) about the comming Messiah. YSHW fullfills them all.


sounds like bible stories to me...


i think you are the first jew ive met, who when argueing his point from a jewish standing calls the bible "stories" do you not believe the history of your own people? and is the tittle JEW just something you like to throw around? i would like to know your stance on things, but if you are just throwing around words, please dont waste time, it slips by to fast.


I'm a pagan Jew born of Jewish blood
that should clear a few things up  
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:56 pm
lordstar Wrote:
promised_child Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:
promised_child Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:
wow that was long

was his death for nothing?

No, it brought about a lot of change
Bible stories aren't working here


those arent Bible storys, they are SOME of the prophecies, to the nation of ISREAL(the Jews) about the comming Messiah. YSHW fullfills them all.


sounds like bible stories to me...


i think you are the first jew ive met, who when argueing his point from a jewish standing calls the bible "stories" do you not believe the history of your own people? and is the tittle JEW just something you like to throw around? i would like to know your stance on things, but if you are just throwing around words, please dont waste time, it slips by to fast.


I'm a pagan Jew born of Jewish blood
that should clear a few things up


then you argue from, not knowledge but what you feel is your duty to your blood. hitler was also of jewish blood, look what his lack of knowledge caused.  

promised_child

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lordstar

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:19 pm
promised_child Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:
promised_child Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:
promised_child Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:
wow that was long

was his death for nothing?

No, it brought about a lot of change
Bible stories aren't working here


those arent Bible storys, they are SOME of the prophecies, to the nation of ISREAL(the Jews) about the comming Messiah. YSHW fullfills them all.


sounds like bible stories to me...


i think you are the first jew ive met, who when argueing his point from a jewish standing calls the bible "stories" do you not believe the history of your own people? and is the tittle JEW just something you like to throw around? i would like to know your stance on things, but if you are just throwing around words, please dont waste time, it slips by to fast.


I'm a pagan Jew born of Jewish blood
that should clear a few things up


then you argue from, not knowledge but what you feel is your duty to your blood. hitler was also of jewish blood, look what his lack of knowledge caused.


Do you need a nap or something because you are obviously not thinking clearly
Try again please  
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:56 am
lordstar Wrote:
promised_child Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:


I'm a pagan Jew born of Jewish blood
that should clear a few things up


then you argue from, not knowledge but what you feel is your duty to your blood. hitler was also of jewish blood, look what his lack of knowledge caused.


Do you need a nap or something because you are obviously not thinking clearly
Try again please


Okay, I admit the Hitler reference was a bit. . .thread-killing. But other than that, a fair point emerges. How does your nationality come to bear with your ideas of salvation? Saying you're "a Jew who believes. . ." either implies that your belief somehow extends from your Jewishness, or is as irrelevant and confusing as me saying "As a Latina who believes. . ."

~Gilwen

PS Please don't say there are no absolutes.  

Gilwen
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lordstar

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:36 pm
Gilwen Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:
promised_child Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:


I'm a pagan Jew born of Jewish blood
that should clear a few things up


then you argue from, not knowledge but what you feel is your duty to your blood. hitler was also of jewish blood, look what his lack of knowledge caused.


Do you need a nap or something because you are obviously not thinking clearly
Try again please


Okay, I admit the Hitler reference was a bit. . .thread-killing. But other than that, a fair point emerges. How does your nationality come to bear with your ideas of salvation? Saying you're "a Jew who believes. . ." either implies that your belief somehow extends from your Jewishness, or is as irrelevant and confusing as me saying "As a Latina who believes. . ."

~Gilwen

PS Please don't say there are no absolutes.


It seems like my heritage is confusing

I'm
Pagan<----

And as per your request I will amend my statement
I do not believe in absolutes
Better?  
PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:01 pm
lordstar Wrote:


And as per your request I will amend my statement
I do not believe in absolutes
Better?


Considerably. smilies/icon_smile.gif  

Gilwen
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lordstar

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:03 pm
Gilwen Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:


And as per your request I will amend my statement
I do not believe in absolutes
Better?


Considerably. smilies/icon_smile.gif


It seems even I get lost in the chaos sometimes

Ya know, contrary to popular belief, I really am quite tame  
PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:12 pm
[quote="lordstar"][quote="Gilwen"]
lordstar Wrote:


And as per your request I will amend my statement
I do not believe in absolutes
Better?


about absolutes-

if you jump off a building, will you float, cuz if absolutes dont exist, then gravity doesnt allways work, and 2+2 doesnt allways=4  

promised_child

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lordstar

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:01 pm
[quote="promised_child"][quote="lordstar"]
Gilwen Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:


And as per your request I will amend my statement
I do not believe in absolutes
Better?


about absolutes-

if you jump off a building, will you float, cuz if absolutes dont exist, then gravity doesnt allways work, and 2+2 doesnt allways=5


ah but gravity doesn't always work
or rather it isn't always the same constant
it is a function of variables
if I was to jump off a building I would not expect to float
but if I was to jump on the moon...I might just float away

mathematics is also based on givens
and I am out of time  
PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:41 pm
lordstar Wrote:


I spent a few of my younger years blaming God, Faith, and the Faithful. And then I opened my eyes to see the lies. I found that there are no absolutes (perhaps in absolute form).


Are you absolutely sure about that?

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if God is real
what happens to a person who doesn't accept God but makes a good faith effort to be a "good person"

I would think God would be a bit hurt but still let that person into paradise
why? It sounds like something a loving and caring god would do. eternal fire seems a bit overkill...especially for thinking a wrong thought about something that hasn't been imperially proven. I would compare it to getting the wrong answer on a crazy math problem. Since when is a person "bad" for getting a wrong answer?


Why do you call that person "good"? There is no one good except God.

I would compare it to a courtroom and you're the defendant for a $20,000 fine and you can't pay it. Let's suppose you only did one thing wrong, but let's continue. Why should God let you off from paying that fine?  

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divineseraph

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:26 pm
By acknowledging that He is in all things.  
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