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Duroonsia

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:22 pm
How do you truly accept God?  
PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:57 pm
you just accept Jesus as your personal savior, that he died on the cross for you so as to take away your sins and give you a chance at forgiveness.

i would ask your pastor and maybe have him sit down with you and talk and pray. it always feel weird doing it by myself with no one to refer to.  

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promised_child

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:55 pm
sunshinehearttrob Wrote:
you just accept Jesus as your personal savior, that he died on the cross for you so as to take away your sins and give you a chance at forgiveness.

i would ask your pastor and maybe have him sit down with you and talk and pray. it always feel weird doing it by myself with no one to refer to.


also that he rose from the dead, conquering the grave and hell... very imptorant bit to believe. cuz God is the God of the living..  
PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 4:55 pm
Duroonsia Wrote:
How do you truly accept God?


Catholics have something called confirmation. Realizing that a baby can't make the decision to be baptized is a big step forward for human rights. So when a person turns 14 they are said to be able to make such a choice (with the state of the union I would disagree [rents still rule at that age])

I publicly refused to be confirmed  

lordstar

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promised_child

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:28 pm
lordstar Wrote:
Duroonsia Wrote:
How do you truly accept God?


Catholics have something called confirmation. Realizing that a baby can't make the decision to be baptized is a big step forward for human rights. So when a person turns 14 they are said to be able to make such a choice (with the state of the union I would disagree [rents still rule at that age])

I publicly refused to be confirmed


you had to publicly refuse christ??? huh, none of mt catholic friends told me that.  
PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:25 pm
promised_child Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:
Duroonsia Wrote:
How do you truly accept God?


Catholics have something called confirmation. Realizing that a baby can't make the decision to be baptized is a big step forward for human rights. So when a person turns 14 they are said to be able to make such a choice (with the state of the union I would disagree [rents still rule at that age])

I publicly refused to be confirmed


you had to publicly refuse christ??? huh, none of mt catholic friends told me that.


That was my choice to publicly refuse
the point of confirmation is just the opposite
I was alone in my choice that day  

lordstar

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promised_child

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:58 pm
interesting...... so how did you decide for christ?  
PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 8:59 am
promised_child Wrote:
interesting...... so how did you decide for christ?


?????

How did I decide [blank] for christ?

or how/why did I decide to reject?  

lordstar

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promised_child

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:42 pm
lordstar Wrote:
promised_child Wrote:
interesting...... so how did you decide for christ?


?????

How did I decide [blank] for christ?

or how/why did I decide to reject?


BLANK? huh? both i think  
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:07 pm
promised_child Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:
promised_child Wrote:
interesting...... so how did you decide for christ?


?????

How did I decide [blank] for christ?

or how/why did I decide to reject?


BLANK? huh? both i think


sounds kinda weird, me deciding anything for a dead guy.

why did I choose to reject, now that I can answer. The faith I had once had was long dead by then. When I left my church it took me a few years but I went looking for truth. I didn't like what I found...all the horrors such faith has brought to humanity. And then I thought, what have the faithful done that others have not? To this day I can think of nothing. I continue to look for answers but the more questions I find answers to the more questions I find unanswered.  

lordstar

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promised_child

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:15 pm
lordstar Wrote:
promised_child Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:
promised_child Wrote:
interesting...... so how did you decide for christ?


?????

How did I decide [blank] for christ?

or how/why did I decide to reject?


BLANK? huh? both i think


sounds kinda weird, me deciding anything for a dead guy.

why did I choose to reject, now that I can answer. The faith I had once had was long dead by then. When I left my church it took me a few years but I went looking for truth. I didn't like what I found...all the horrors such faith has brought to humanity. And then I thought, what have the faithful done that others have not? To this day I can think of nothing. I continue to look for answers but the more questions I find answers to the more questions I find unanswered.


Christ isnt dead. if you want witnesses, there were 500 in galalee who saw him, and then some. he was ressurected, as he promised. what questions do you have? please dont blaim FAITH for the actions of RELIGION. remember religion is man trying to get to God, faith is God reaching out to man. the crusades were perpitrated by religion, as were the which trials, and the inquisistion (sp??). actually none of them had to do with God, Faith or religion and more to do with money and property.  
PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:26 pm
promised_child Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:
promised_child Wrote:
lordstar Wrote:
promised_child Wrote:
interesting...... so how did you decide for christ?


?????

How did I decide [blank] for christ?

or how/why did I decide to reject?


BLANK? huh? both i think


sounds kinda weird, me deciding anything for a dead guy.

why did I choose to reject, now that I can answer. The faith I had once had was long dead by then. When I left my church it took me a few years but I went looking for truth. I didn't like what I found...all the horrors such faith has brought to humanity. And then I thought, what have the faithful done that others have not? To this day I can think of nothing. I continue to look for answers but the more questions I find answers to the more questions I find unanswered.


Christ isnt dead. if you want witnesses, there were 500 in galalee who saw him, and then some. he was ressurected, as he promised. what questions do you have? please dont blaim FAITH for the actions of RELIGION. remember religion is man trying to get to God, faith is God reaching out to man. the crusades were perpitrated by religion, as were the which trials, and the inquisistion (sp??). actually none of them had to do with God, Faith or religion and more to do with money and property.


2000 years later
the man has thoroughly croaked
perhaps more than once (just once is enough for me)

I spent a few of my younger years blaming God, Faith, and the Faithful. And then I opened my eyes to see the lies. I found that there are no absolutes (perhaps in absolute form).

As for questions
Wave Particle Duality is enough to make your head spin for a good few hours if not longer

or (this was a fun one from history class)
if by leaving Iraq the price of oil increased
would the price of gasoline climb to $12 a gallon

the answer we came up with was
perhaps, but only in the short run
because we could presses the oil shale in the great basin and gasoline would be about $5 a gallon (and there is lots of oil shale so no worries...about running out)

anyway, how about a faith based question

if God is real
what happens to a person who doesn't accept God but makes a good faith effort to be a "good person"

I would think God would be a bit hurt but still let that person into paradise
why? It sounds like something a loving and caring god would do. eternal fire seems a bit overkill...especially for thinking a wrong thought about something that hasn't been imperially proven. I would compare it to getting the wrong answer on a crazy math problem. Since when is a person "bad" for getting a wrong answer?

what does faith call upon you to do?
feed the hungry, clothe the poor, tend to the sick, etc?

is faith in Christ a pre-requisite for bringing about positive change for our world?

I think we all know the answer to the last question
.  

lordstar

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promised_child

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:40 pm
good questions, i dont have the answers to all of them. the last one- no its not, but it is what christians are expected to do. the one before that: an emphatic DUH faith calls on you to exersize humane compassion. the one before that. define GOOD? the way to God the father is thru Messiah. Jesus said that no one is "good" except God, and God sent his only son down to die for us, to build that bridge. its such a simple and free gift, all itr takes is faith and belief in that which you cant see.  
PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:05 pm
promised_child Wrote:
good questions, i dont have the answers to all of them. the last one- no its not, but it is what christians are expected to do. the one before that: an emphatic DUH faith calls on you to exersize humane compassion. the one before that. define GOOD? the way to God the father is thru Messiah. Jesus said that no one is "good" except God, and God sent his only son down to die for us, to build that bridge. its such a simple and free gift, all itr takes is faith and belief in that which you cant see.


I can't define good (I don't think that there is such things as right and wrong or good and bad but that’s not the point)
You see how more questions start to develop yes?

As a Jew I would have to disagree with you in that the path to paradise is not through the Messiah. Good faith effort is all that is required.  

lordstar

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promised_child

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:35 pm
lordstar Wrote:
promised_child Wrote:
good questions, i dont have the answers to all of them. the last one- no its not, but it is what christians are expected to do. the one before that: an emphatic DUH faith calls on you to exersize humane compassion. the one before that. define GOOD? the way to God the father is thru Messiah. Jesus said that no one is "good" except God, and God sent his only son down to die for us, to build that bridge. its such a simple and free gift, all itr takes is faith and belief in that which you cant see.


I can't define good (I don't think that there is such things as right and wrong or good and bad but that’s not the point)
You see how more questions start to develop yes?

As a Jew I would have to disagree with you in that the path to paradise is not through the Messiah. Good faith effort is all that is required.


then His death was for nothing? maybe you should read the prophecies.

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Below is a list of major Messianic prophecies. We have not listed the rabbinical (anti-missionary) arguments of these Messianic prophecies nor our refutations, as this is the ongoing work undertaken by our editorial team to complete our Bible.

List of top twenty major Messianic prophecies

Click on each prophecy for more information

Isaiah 52:13-53:12
Isaiah 49:1-7
Isaiah 42:1-9
Isaiah 50:4-10
Psalm 118:22-23
Psalm 22:1-31
Psalm 16:7-11
Psalm 110:1-6
Micah 5:2
Isaiah 7:14
Isaiah 9:6-7
Psalm 2:1-12
Isaiah 11:1-10
Daniel 9:24-27
Malachi 3:1-6
Genesis 49:10
Zechariah 9:9
Zechariah 12:10-13:1
Daniel 7:13-14
Jeremiah 31:31-34
Description: The Suffering and Exaltation of the Messiah
Prophecy: Isaiah 52:13-53:12

13 See, my servant will act wisely;
he will be raised and lifted up and highly exalted.
14 Just as there were many who were appalled at him-
his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any man
and his form marred beyond human likeness-
15 so will he sprinkle many nations,
and kings will shut their mouths because of him.
For what they were not told, they will see,
and what they have not heard, they will understand.

Isaiah 53 1 Who has believed our message
and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot,
and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
3 He was despised and rejected by men,
a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering.
Like one from whom men hide their faces
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he took up our infirmities
and carried our sorrows,
yet we considered him stricken by God,
smitten by him, and afflicted.
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was upon him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to his own way;
and the LORD has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before her shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment he was taken away.
And who can speak of his descendants?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was stricken.
9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the LORD makes his life a guilt offering,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.
11 After the suffering of his soul,
he will see the light of life and be satisfied;
by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,
and he will divide the spoils with the strong,
because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many, and made
intercession for the transgressors.

Fulfillment: 1 Peter 2:22-25; Romans 5:6-8; Philippians 2:6-11



Description: The Servant's Mission and Calling
Prophecy: Isaiah 42:1-9

1 "Here is my servant, whom I uphold,
my chosen one in whom I delight;
I will put my Spirit on him
and he will bring justice to the nations.
2 He will not shout or cry out,
or raise his voice in the streets.
3 A bruised reed he will not break,
and a smoldering wick he will not snuff out.
In faithfulness he will bring forth justice;
4 he will not falter or be discouraged
till he establishes justice on earth.
In his law the islands will put their hope."
5 This is what God the LORD says-
he who created the heavens and stretched them out,
who spread out the earth and all that comes out of it,
who gives breath to its people,
and life to those who walk on it:
6 "I, the LORD, have called you in righteousness;
I will take hold of your hand.
I will keep you and will make you
to be a covenant for the people
and a light for the Gentiles,
7 to open eyes that are blind,
to free captives from prison
and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness.
8 "I am the LORD ; that is my name!
I will not give my glory to another
or my praise to idols.
9 See, the former things have taken place,
and new things I declare;
before they spring into being
I announce them to you."

Fulfillment: Matthew 12:9-21



Description: Israel's Redeemer and a Light to the Nations
Prophecy: Isaiah 49:1-7

1 Listen to me, you islands;
hear this, you distant nations:
Before I was born the LORD called me;
from my birth he has made mention of my name.
2 He made my mouth like a sharpened sword,
in the shadow of his hand he hid me;
he made me into a polished arrow
and concealed me in his quiver.
3 He said to me, "You are my servant,
Israel, in whom I will display my splendor."
4 But I said, "I have labored to no purpose;
I have spent my strength in vain and for nothing.
Yet what is due me is in the LORD's hand,
and my reward is with my God."
5 And now the LORD says-
he who formed me in the womb to be his servant
to bring Jacob back to him
and gather Israel to himself,
for I am honored in the eyes of the LORD
and my God has been my strength-
6 he says: "It is too small a thing for you to be my servant
to restore the tribes of Jacob
and bring back those of Israel I have kept.
I will also make you a light for the Gentiles,
that you may bring my salvation to the ends of the earth."
7 This is what the LORD says-
the Redeemer and Holy One of Israel-
to him who was despised and abhorred by the nation,
to the servant of rulers:
"Kings will see you and rise up,
princes will see and bow down,
because of the LORD, who is faithful,
the Holy One of Israel, who has chosen you."

Fulfillment: Luke 4:16-20; Romans 11:25-26



Description: The Servant's Obedience
Prophecy: Isaiah 50:4-10

4 The Sovereign LORD has given me an instructed tongue,
to know the word that sustains the weary.
He wakens me morning by morning,
wakens my ear to listen like one being taught.
5 The Sovereign LORD has opened my ears,
and I have not been rebellious;
I have not drawn back.
6 I offered my back to those who beat me,
my cheeks to those who pulled out my beard;
I did not hide my face
from mocking and spitting.
7 Because the Sovereign LORD helps me,
I will not be disgraced.
Therefore have I set my face like flint,
and I know I will not be put to shame.
8 He who vindicates me is near.
Who then will bring charges against me?
Let us face each other!
Who is my accuser?
Let him confront me!
9 It is the Sovereign LORD who helps me.
Who is he that will condemn me?
They will all wear out like a garment;
the moths will eat them up.
10 Who among you fears the LORD
and obeys the word of his servant?
Let him who walks in the dark,
who has no light,
trust in the name of the LORD
and rely on his God.

Fulfillment: Matthew 26:67; 27:27-31



Description: The Rejected Cornerstone, Chosen by God
Prophecy: Psalm 118:22-23

22 The stone the builders rejected
has become the capstone;
23 the LORD has done this,
and it is marvelous in our eyes.

Fulfillment: Matthew 21:33-44



Description: Delivered Out of the Jaws of Death
Prophecy: Psalm 22:1-31

1 My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
Why are you so far from saving me,
so far from the words of my groaning?
2 O my God, I cry out by day, but you do not answer,
by night, and am not silent.
3 Yet you are enthroned as the Holy One;
you are the praise of Israel.
4 In you our fathers put their trust;
they trusted and you delivered them.
5 They cried to you and were saved;
in you they trusted and were not disappointed.
6 But I am a worm and not a man,
scorned by men and despised by the people.
7 All who see me mock me;
they hurl insults, shaking their heads:
8 "He trusts in the LORD ;
let the LORD rescue him.
Let him deliver him,
since he delights in him."
9 Yet you brought me out of the womb;
you made me trust in you
even at my mother's breast.
10 From birth I was cast upon you;
from my mother's womb you have been my God.
11 Do not be far from me,
for trouble is near
and there is no one to help.
12 Many bulls surround me;
strong bulls of Bashan encircle me.
13 Roaring lions tearing their prey
open their mouths wide against me.
14 I am poured out like water,
and all my bones are out of joint.
My heart has turned to wax;
it has melted away within me.
15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd,
and my tongue sticks to the roof of my mouth;
you lay me in the dust of death.
16 Dogs have surrounded me;
a band of evil men has encircled me,
they have pierced my hands and my feet.
17 I can count all my bones;
people stare and gloat over me.
18 They divide my garments among them
and cast lots for my clothing.
19 But you, O LORD, be not far off;
O my Strength, come quickly to help me.
20 Deliver my life from the sword,
my precious life from the power of the dogs.
21 Rescue me from the mouth of the lions;
save me from the horns of the wild oxen.
22 I will declare your name to my brothers;
in the congregation I will praise you.
23 You who fear the LORD, praise him!
All you descendants of Jacob, honor him!
Revere him, all you descendants of Israel!
24 For he has not despised or disdained
the suffering of the afflicted one;
he has not hidden his face from him
but has listened to his cry for help.
25 From you comes the theme of my praise in the great assembly;
before those who fear you will I fulfill my vows.
26 The poor will eat and be satisfied;
they who seek the LORD will praise him-
may your hearts live forever!
27 All the ends of the earth
will remember and turn to the LORD,
and all the families of the nations
will bow down before him,
28 for dominion belongs to the LORD
and he rules over the nations.
29 All the rich of the earth will feast and worship;
all who go down to the dust will kneel before him-
those who cannot keep themselves alive.
30 Posterity will serve him;
future generations will be told about the Lord.
31 They will proclaim his righteousness
to a people yet unborn-
for he has done it.

Fulfillment: Mark 15:16-37; 16:1-7



Description: Risen from the Grave
Prophecy: Psalm 16:7-11

7 I will praise the LORD, who counsels me;
even at night my heart instructs me.
8 I have set the LORD always before me.
Because he is at my right hand,
I will not be shaken.
9 Therefore my heart is glad and my tongue rejoices;
my body also will rest secure,
10 because you will not abandon me to the grave,
nor will you let your Holy One see decay.
11 You have made known to me the path of life;
you will fill me with joy in your presence,
with eternal pleasures at your right hand.

Fulfillment: Acts 2:22-33



Description: Exalted to God's Right Hand
Prophecy: Psalm 110:1-6

1 The LORD says to my Lord:
"Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet."
2 The LORD will extend your mighty scepter from Zion;
you will rule in the midst of your enemies.
3 Your troops will be willing
on your day of battle.
Arrayed in holy majesty,
from the womb of the dawn
you will receive the dew of your youth.
4 The LORD has sworn
and will not change his mind:
"You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek."
5 The Lord is at your right hand;
he will crush kings on the day of his wrath.
6 He will judge the nations, heaping up the dead
and crushing the rulers of the whole earth.

Fulfillment: Matthew 22:41-46; Acts 2:34-36; Acts 7:56; Hebrews 7:11-22



Description: A Promised Ruler From Bethlehem
Prophecy: Micah 5:2

2 "But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
though you are small among the clans of Judah,
out of you will come for me
one who will be ruler over Israel,
whose origins are from of old,
from ancient times."

Fulfillment: Luke 2:1-7; Matthew 2:1-6



Description: The Sign of Immanuel
Prophecy: Isaiah 7:14

14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.

Fulfillment: Matthew 1:18-23



Description: To Us a Child Is Born
Prophecy: Isaiah 9:6-7

6 For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given,
and the government will be on his shoulders.
And he will be called
Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
7 Of the increase of his government and peace
there will be no end.
He will reign on David's throne
and over his kingdom,
establishing and upholding it
with justice and righteousness
from that time on and forever.
The zeal of the LORD Almighty
will accomplish this.

Fulfillment: Luke 1:31-33; Romans 1:1-4; John 1:1-4; Colossians 2:9



Description: God's Anointed Ruler and Son
Prophecy: Psalm 2:1-12

1 Why do the nations conspire
and the peoples plot in vain?
2 The kings of the earth take their stand
and the rulers gather together
against the LORD
and against his Anointed One.
3 "Let us break their chains," they say,
"and throw off their fetters."
4 The One enthroned in heaven laughs;
the Lord scoffs at them.
5 Then he rebukes them in his anger
and terrifies them in his wrath, saying,
6 "I have installed my King
on Zion, my holy hill."
7 I will proclaim the decree of the LORD :
He said to me, "You are my Son;
today I have become your Father.
8 Ask of me,
and I will make the nations your inheritance,
the ends of the earth your possession.
9 You will rule them with an iron scepter;
you will dash them to pieces like pottery."
10 Therefore, you kings, be wise;
be warned, you rulers of the earth.
11 Serve the LORD with fear
and rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry
and you be destroyed in your way,
for his wrath can flare up in a moment.
Blessed are all who take refuge in him.

Fulfillment: Matthew 3:17; Revelation 19:11-16



Description: The Branch From Jesse
Prophecy: Isaiah 11:1-10

1 A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse;
from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
2 The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him-
the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding,
the Spirit of counsel and of power,
the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD -
3 and he will delight in the fear of the LORD .
He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes,
or decide by what he hears with his ears;
4 but with righteousness he will judge the needy,
with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth.
He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth;
with the breath of his lips he will slay the wicked.
5 Righteousness will be his belt
and faithfulness the sash around his waist.
6 The wolf will live with the lamb,
the leopard will lie down with the goat,
the calf and the lion and the yearling together;
and a little child will lead them.
7 The cow will feed with the bear,
their young will lie down together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox.
8 The infant will play near the hole of the cobra,
and the young child put his hand into the viper's nest.
9 They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,
for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the LORD
as the waters cover the sea.
10 In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner
for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his
place of rest will be glorious.

Fulfillment: Romans 15:12; Revelation 21:1-7



Description: The Seventy "Sevens"
Prophecy: Daniel 9:24-27

24 "Seventy 'sevens' are decreed for your people
and your holy city to finish transgression, to put
an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in
everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy
and to anoint the most holy.
25 "Know and understand
this: From the issuing of the decree to restore and rebuild
Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there
will be seven 'sevens,' and sixty-two 'sevens.' It will be
rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble.
26 After the sixty-two 'sevens,' the Anointed One will be cut
off and will have nothing. The people of the ruler who will
come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will
come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and
desolations have been decreed.
27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one 'seven.'
In the middle of the 'seven' he will put an end to sacrifice
and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up
an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that
is decreed is poured out on him.

Fulfillment: Hebrews 7:27; 9:24-28



Description: The Divine Visitation to the Temple
Prophecy: Malachi 3:1-6

1 "See, I will send my messenger, who will prepare the
way before me. Then suddenly the Lord you are seeking
will come to his temple; the messenger of the covenant,
whom you desire, will come," says the LORD Almighty.
But who can endure the day of his coming?
Who can stand when he appears? For he will be like a
refiner's fire or a launderer's soap.
3 He will sit as a refiner
and purifier of silver; he will purify the Levites and refine
them like gold and silver. Then the LORD will have men
who will bring offerings in righteousness,
4 and the offerings
of Judah and Jerusalem will be acceptable to the LORD,
as in days gone by, as in former years.
5 "So I will come near to you for judgment. I will be quick
to testify against sorcerers, adulterers and perjurers, against those
who defraud laborers of their wages, who oppress the widows
and the fatherless, and deprive aliens of justice, but do not fear
me," says the LORD Almighty.
6 "I the LORD do not change.
So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed.

Fulfillment: Matthew 21:10-13



Description: The World Ruler from Judah
Prophecy: Genesis 49:10

10 The scepter will not depart from Judah,
nor the ruler's staff from between his feet,
until he comes to whom it belongs
and the obedience of the nations is his.

Fulfillment: Revelation 5:5-14



Description: The Coming of Zion's King
Prophecy: Zechariah 9:9

9 Rejoice greatly, O Daughter of Zion!
Shout, Daughter of Jerusalem!
See, your king comes to you,
righteous and having salvation,
gentle and riding on a donkey,
on a colt, the foal of a donkey.

Fulfillment: Matthew 21:1-11



Description: Mourning for the One They Pierced
Prophecy: Zechariah 12:10-13:1

10 "And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants
of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look
on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him
as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as
one grieves for a firstborn son.
11 On that day the weeping in
Jerusalem will be great, like the weeping of Hadad Rimmon
in the plain of Megiddo.
12 The land will mourn, each clan by
itself, with their wives by themselves: the clan of the house
f David and their wives, the clan of the house of Nathan and
their wives,
13 the clan of the house of Levi and their wives,
the clan of Shimei and their wives,
14 and all the rest of the
clans and their wives.

Zechariah 13: 1 "On that day a fountain
will be opened to the house of David and the inhabitants of
Jerusalem, to cleanse them from sin and impurity.

Fulfillment: John 19:31-37; Revelation 1:7



Description: The Exalted Son of Man
Prophecy: Daniel 7:13-14

13 "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was
one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven.
He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence.
14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples,
nations and men of every language worshiped him. His dominion
is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom
is one that will never be destroyed.

Fulfillment: Matthew 24:26-30; Mark 14:60-62



Description: The New Covenant
Prophecy: Jeremiah 31:31-34

31 "The time is coming," declares the LORD,
"when I will make a new covenant
with the house of Israel
and with the house of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their forefathers
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to them,"
declares the LORD .
33 "This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel
after that time," declares the LORD .
"I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
34 No longer will a man teach his neighbor,
or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,'
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,"
declares the LORD .
"For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more."

Fulfillment: 1 Corinthians 11:23-26; Hebrews 8:7-13
 
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