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Sorry Munki, just the way it is. Even now I don't support anyone joining anymore. If you're not magic, you're vastly underarmed and outgunned. Reason are logic are totally suspended when it suits their purpose, so guns are useless simply because they don't like them.

I don't think I'm fully done with that thread though, I feel a multipage rant coming on. Stating in oh so clear terms how bullshit this system is. Go ahead in join, but make sure you're atleast 2/3rds god that can do anything regardless of difficulty or how much sense it makes.

Just, godamnit, it's so much bullshit i don't know where to begin. They are all, for the most part, hypocrits. They choose where the rules apply and where not, just to protect their precious level 20 characters which they waive around like giant e-penises. Nothing can be done about, either. Opaj would like a fair game, but it's not fair since people like me who hold onto reason and logic are completely outnumbered (Gaia v Me and Vince) and outspoked. Opaj won't change the rules because his friends wouldn't like it, and Opaj just wants to be everybody's friend, unfortunately I'm not everybody.

After further review and debate i decided not to join the rp event after the amasing display of magical ability i dident think it was worth puting my rp char up for, anyway i spent alot of time building the profile so i threw it into the bortherhood archives for everyone to see so it can get some use

Theres a weapon in arcanum actualy a few. the game is made by backisle, so its very good and it playes alot like fallout but take fallout back a few thousand years to the middle of the industral revolutinon but add a D&D theam to it so its basicly D&D taking place in the industrial revolution. the mixture of techonology and magic is very intresting they explaned it as if your aptitude with tech is high you fail rolls and take alot of penalties wile useing magical items or spells same goes with mages they take dier penalties wile using Mechanical armor (Power armor basicly) or using a automatic rifle. Now that takes place well with technology. dwarves are tech smae with orgers and orcs elves and gnomes are magic same with half elves and humans are dead center. Anyway thats a rundown of that game but the intresting thing is. technologiests have started to understnad how magic works and have developed items that can counter magic.

Say a Fire ball is herdaled in your direction, theres a shield that is called The Flow Disruptor. This shield uses magnetic coils to create a magnetic field, the field disrupts the incoming fierball (some weard voodoo tech terminology that i dont exactly remeber) and displaces it so it does little to no damage to the user. same with another item called the Chapoue (sp) of Magnetic Inverson. Basicly the same thing it creates a magnetic field around the user repeling pullets and other objects of sorts like magic and all.

Its a really intresting game and is amasing how they did the story and the world desine.

The intro video is the best part shows a battlefield and theres a man in full platemale perty well damaged and he looking around and in his belt is a black powder revolver. Secin changes to a nother guy in platemale (obviously a magic user type of person) Looks like he is an inchanted warrior , he appoches and is about to swing his glowing blue magical sword at the tech user, well the tech user notices and in this simple easy motion pulls the pistole from the belt and aims it pulls the trigger and drops the magic user befor he could do jack s**t.

cool Bitchen game

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Ah, the classic technology versus magic debate. Depending on what they believe magic can do, technology will always win. As everyone has pointed out time and again, it takes T-I-M-E to conjure a spell, think to throw a fireball, etc. As for the technology user, it takes only a few seconds or less to aim and pull that trigger. As for the whole fireball users and whatnot, the fireball hitting armor may knock the person on their a**, but it won't really damage them really. I honestly hate and despise technology vs. magical fights due to the fact the magic user thinks of himself as say a DragonBall Z character or all powerful. But in truth, those spells and fireballs takes up personal energy, I mean, sure, go ahead and knock someone on their a** a few times with a fireball, wow, you sure are drained now. Oh, what's this? The armor wearer is getting back up holding a gun, no energy drained? That simply can't be, oh no, I'm screwed, hail of lead, chest torn open, bleeding, dead, oh what should I do. Cheat! Unfair, I'm a magic user, I'll uh, conjure up this instant heal spell and save my life, then put a uh, shield spell that can stop your bullets, a unlimited shield spell at that. Oh no, what are you going to do now, oh...grenade, I will uh, counter with a all mighty shield that doesn't allow anything through except uh, my own stuff. What? Your asking about personal energy? Oh, my powers are infinite, I can use any spell in a instant, it will have no draining effect on me, my powers can be uh, next to godly, yes, and I will win this fight because I'm a uh, magic user, yes, so you lose. I mean, give me a ******** break, technology vs. magic fights ends up with the magic users trying to pull s**t out of their a** and blowing smoke, when going into a fight, you might as well say anyone who is a technology user has already won that fight, no competition. Not because I'm not a fan of the whole magical world and fighting, I love magic and the possibilities, but truth be honest, it makes me also think realistically of their limits and nothing can compete with someone even wearing metal armor and has a nice old fashion firearm, the bullets fly alot faster than you can even put a thought into a word, let alone speak it or think it to make a fireball or spell be conjured up. If your a magic user in a modern technology fight, might as well make out your tombstone, dig a grave, lay down in it and die before the fight even begins. From personal experience in technology versus magic fights, I've won every one of them and using their bullshit "realities" against them. Take for example this one fight I was in a few months after the guild was created and against a female who was in a guild proposing possible war and I went as a negotiator of peace. Then we made peace and they offered to do some RPing, sure, I did it and it was a strong magic user who could throw fireballs, think up shields, spells, shape shift, etc. I emptied clips into her "bullet shield" and chucked a few grenades that exploded on the outside of her shield which severely weakened them so she said. So her shield goes down, I have a Ripper and she shape shifts into a wolf. Thinking she has me now, she runs and grips my armored arm in her mouth, I simply grip the ripper and run it down into her neck since her throat was faced down as canine type of animals usually are, so only the top of the spine and neck was exposed while she was ripping at the armor. It cut through the spine, she couldn't help but take it as a hit when it was her turn to make a move when I swiped down with the Ripper, so she took the blow and died. A normal magic user in that condition would of said some s**t about throwing up a shield or dodging, when obviously his/her eyes wouldn't be focused upwards while their chewing on someone's wrist. Anyways, I killed that user in a fight after using total bullshit magic spells and whatnot, but I just waited until the only thing she could of done was put down that damned shield since it can't last forever draining off of personal energy, but some users think the shields lasts forever and doesn't give credit or attention to that. Anyways, nothing dodges a bullet that can go faster than you think. If the creator or competitors in that thread think any other way about that, their blowing smoke and don't think realistically and shouldn't be competing in a RP tournament where technological weapons are allowed, they should just simply stick to their little magic RP tournaments, otherwise, they might as well bow down and take the defeat because a man with a gun can take out a man who has to think about what their going to do, a bullet is faster than the complete thought, by the time you thought "fireba---" your dead. But meh, whatever floats the creator of that thread's boat.

Against large number of enemies magic is good for that of course, but one on one, it's next to useless against technology, just like a melee fighter would be obsolete in the event against firearms being involved. But also, technology has the same advantages as any magic user has, against large enemies, a grenade would do just as fine as say a lightning attack against a large number of enemies. It would drain the magic user's personal energy, but on the technology fighter who uses modern weaponry and alot more realistic than a magic user can be, the only personal costs that it costs him is a grenade, not personal energy that eventually runs out, especially on large scale spells. But modern technology can't be misinterpreted, a gun does this, a grenade does that, etc. But in the whole magic realm, it's all how each user perceives how magic is used. Some may say that they take the magic energy from the air or earth and some may say that it drains from personal strength, which would make alot more sense than pulling things out of the air or dirt. So magic can be so easily to change and say it does this instead of that because it's no real set rules on it. Sure, the RPs available for technology RPers is a little limited in choices since magic RPs are very popular, but it's still some realistic people out there who uses what is available in the modern world and not some made up magic. If I want to RP badly enough, I simply join a random RP, it being medieval, magical, etc. and ask if my weaponry is fine. If they say no, I go looking for another one, if they say yes, their fine, the RP is basically over before it begun, unrealistic "magic" or melee weapons is by far not even in comparison to the league modern technology is in. It's like saying let's use a musket or black powder rifle against a automatic SMG, sure, it may pose a threat, but it simply does not fly in the end.

I had an idea.

The Brotherhood uses Deathclaws as sort of a bagass bloodhound/attakc dog right? Sicne a Claw can be a player I figure as much.

I figure if we ever RP abouts here again, the BOS needs a Kennel where we keep all the non-sentient claws, I figure my claw, Canderous, beign smart enough to talk, read and have a decent conversation, would be in charge or it, or at least on hand to handle any of the buggers that got out of hand, Alpha Male thing and all.

It might make for an interesting addendum, or at least another step towards realism.