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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:45 pm
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Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:38 pm
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:48 am
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SloanSage Only 1% of abortions are rape related. See the REALLY long post. Close though. I know three people who are the products of rape. Yeah, life is SOOOOO much better with them in it! heart We constantly thank their moms (two of whom we do not know since they were adopted...) for choosing life! Thing is, who knows which baby will cure cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's? Which one will be a great poet? Who will the next Pope or Mother Teresa? the next president? The next nobel prize winner? A great singer, actor, artist? Who knows which babies will change the world? No one. Let them live and grow and change the world! How many teachers have already been killed? Doctors? Missionaries? Nurses? Police? Firefighters? Paramedics? Humanitarians? Too many, that's how many. crying On the flip side, that baby could be the Next Hitler, Napoleon, Castro, Stalin, or an orchestrator of the next genocide, racial purging or holocaust. While a child's life is sacred to a degree, sometimes trauma is too much and also, there are already more kids in the world who need to be adopted but don't, why add more to the system when they will most likely live in that cold, harsh system their entire lives and never truly know familial happiness and contentment?
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:45 am
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Ricette SloanSage Only 1% of abortions are rape related. See the REALLY long post. Close though. I know three people who are the products of rape. Yeah, life is SOOOOO much better with them in it! heart We constantly thank their moms (two of whom we do not know since they were adopted...) for choosing life! Thing is, who knows which baby will cure cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's? Which one will be a great poet? Who will the next Pope or Mother Teresa? the next president? The next nobel prize winner? A great singer, actor, artist? Who knows which babies will change the world? No one. Let them live and grow and change the world! How many teachers have already been killed? Doctors? Missionaries? Nurses? Police? Firefighters? Paramedics? Humanitarians? Too many, that's how many. crying On the flip side, that baby could be the Next Hitler, Napoleon, Castro, Stalin, or an orchestrator of the next genocide, racial purging or holocaust. While a child's life is sacred to a degree, sometimes trauma is too much and also, there are already more kids in the world who need to be adopted but don't, why add more to the system when they will most likely live in that cold, harsh system their entire lives and never truly know familial happiness and contentment?
Yes, the "they could grow up great/evil" argument is fail.
But is unhappiness a good reason to kill someone? Why aren't we slaughtering the unadopted children now, so that they don't need to clog up the earth? I mean, they must be pretty unhappy, and unhappiness could be grounds to kill, right?
No, I don't think the excuse that they may have a bad life is a good one- It, like the "Doctor/nurse/scientist/hitler/racist" argument, relies on potential- They could very well have a happy life full of joy and fulfillment. I think that the CHANCE of having a decent life, or any life at all, is superior to death in the womb. Considering abortion as a humanism to the fetus is simply ludicrous.
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Posted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:08 am
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Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:39 pm
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Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:50 pm
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divineseraph Secondly, legally, no, abortion is not murder.. Feti are not given personhood, and becuase of this, thye cannt be "murdered" as law defines "murder" as the illegal killing of a person with the intent to commit a crime. However, by this logic, the Holocaust was not murder either. Jews were not people in Nazi Germany. therefore, their slaughter was not murder, just killing. Yes, abortion is wrong, I would agree. But legal definitions, pointless and counter-productive as they may be, say that it isn't murder.
i have never thought of this logic, and have countless times tried to think of ways abortion could be murder, and therefore should be illegal. i have personally always believed that abortion is sick, and is murder. there is plenty of scientific evidence to prove that a fetis can think, hear, and even feel pain.
divineseraph, i am giving a speech in my english class on this topic and was wondering if i could use your argument.
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:05 pm
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Phantomboy411 divineseraph Secondly, legally, no, abortion is not murder.. Feti are not given personhood, and becuase of this, thye cannt be "murdered" as law defines "murder" as the illegal killing of a person with the intent to commit a crime. However, by this logic, the Holocaust was not murder either. Jews were not people in Nazi Germany. therefore, their slaughter was not murder, just killing. Yes, abortion is wrong, I would agree. But legal definitions, pointless and counter-productive as they may be, say that it isn't murder. i have never thought of this logic, and have countless times tried to think of ways abortion could be murder, and therefore should be illegal. i have personally always believed that abortion is sick, and is murder. there is plenty of scientific evidence to prove that a fetis can think, hear, and even feel pain. divineseraph, i am giving a speech in my english class on this topic and was wondering if i could use your argument.
Of course you may, my argument is for my cause, not myself. So, if you can use it to change minds, please do so.
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:24 am
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