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SavaGe_OGKush
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:15 pm
Should abortion be permitted?  
PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:10 pm
SavaGe_OGKush
Should abortion be permitted?


I would say yes (as it's a right of the person). It doesn't necessarily mean I agree with it...and I wish more women would make intelligent decisions when it comes to abortion.  

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:13 pm
Grand Magikarp
SavaGe_OGKush
Should abortion be permitted?


I would say yes (as it's a right of the person). It doesn't necessarily mean I agree with it...and I wish more women would make intelligent decisions when it comes to abortion.


Abortion is taking the life of an unborn baby. In other words taking thew life of another person. MURDER. So that should be legal? Murder is not legal?  
PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:15 pm
SavaGe_OGKush
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SavaGe_OGKush
Should abortion be permitted?


I would say yes (as it's a right of the person). It doesn't necessarily mean I agree with it...and I wish more women would make intelligent decisions when it comes to abortion.


Abortion is taking the life of an unborn baby. In other words taking thew life of another person. MURDER. So that should be legal? Murder is not legal?


A fetus is a parasite until it is born. It doesn't really have any rights as far as the law goes.  

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:04 pm
I say yes. As we talked about before, there are people who become wrongful parents as you stated. And I countered saying that love develops in all but there are some who are not yet ready for the task of parenthood. That is why it should be ok.

Also, it would not be murder. Murder is the death of a living person by another living person. Last time I checked, Zygotes are not living people so it wouldn't be classified as murder.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:58 am
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A fetus is a parasite until it is born. It doesn't really have any rights as far as the law goes.

This sums up anything I'd have to say.  

Aoko Aozaki


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:44 pm
I'm the typing of girl that believes, I made the mistake of having unprotected sex or having sex when I was not ready now I am pregnant... my fault, I will keep the child.

That does not mean that I think abortions are wrong. Sometimes people don't always have an abortion to destroy the child that's growing in them. I've heard cases of women doing it because they're child has a low chance of surviving or it died in their womb.

Which really, it's not my business to say that you shouldn't do that. It's your body, so it's your choice what you do. If you feel that you're not ready to handle it, or if you're financially unstable and can't provide, or anything of the sort, might as well get it. What the sense of bringing a child into the world in conditions like that?  
PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:42 pm
Well I was in church my priest spoke of a newspaper article, in it there was a nine year old girl who was rape by her own father, well turns out she was able to get pregnant. The doctor told her that if she went and had the baby there was a 99.9 percent chance that both her and the baby would die. She went to her priest to ask if it was alright to have an abortion, he of course said no, saying it was a sin.

So when my priest asked us what we thought I told them this.

"Well the probability was 99.9 percent chance that both her and the baby would die, so as a rationalist miracles don't happen to any one, and a nine year old's body isn't capable of giving birth, and with such a high chance I think it would be best to have an abortion. I don't care of the what ifs, because 1% is not enough reason to take a chance and lose not one but two lives, and if god doesn't pardon her then tough s**t because the harsh reality is, either way both her and the baby are going to die, you know why? because the chances of survival are too low."

So my answer is yes, I don''t give a flying s**t about human rights and what not, if killing the fetus off before both dies can save at least one precious life then so be it, now women who have consensual sex and use abortion as birth control, they need to get punched in the face. If it was from rape, then I can't blame you for not wanting to give birth to the baby but if you do it because you couldn't keep your damn legs closed, and didn't wrap it before you tapped it, then tough you ******** up there is a thing called a condom and birth control, so both peeps need to take responsibility.

I'm all for abortion but it depends on the reason, if you don't have a good one then you should take responsibility, you don't have to keep the child, but at least make sure it has a good life because it was your irresponsible attitude that got you pregnant.

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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 5:06 pm
I can't say if abortion is moral or not, because I dont know. All I know is that abortion is a woman's right and therefore should be permitted. I know many of you disagree with this because of moral or religious reasons, but put yourself in the woman's position. Your not married, your pregnant, and your conception (if you used it) didnt work. Your boyfriend ditched you and you are totaly broke. Supporting a child is ot possible. Or lets say your only 16 and you have a life to live. It is purely the woman's/ girl's choice, and no one has the right to make this choice for her.  
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:54 pm
Moral to you or not it is the right of the mother, and NO ONE ELCE! Yes it is her fault she had unprotected sex, or put her self in that position, most of the time. Abortion should be legal, but you should have a limit. Every time I say it should be legal someone tells me oh well then threes no accountability, a woman can just go have all the unprotected sex she wants. That’s not so. One abortions cost money, two I believe there should be a limit on how many abortions you can get. I personally would not get one, but it is up to the mother, it will be inside of her and who is ANYONE to tell someone they have to have something inside of them they don’t want. Some people aren’t mentally or physically stable enough to go through a pregnancy, it could result in the death of the mother. The fifties before the end of the first trimester is not anything more than, as was stated, a parasite. There is no “moment of conception” the embryo hasn’t even rally taken that much form at that time, it is unrecognizable mush.  

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:08 pm
Takumi Izanagi
Well I was in church my priest spoke of a newspaper article, in it there was a nine year old girl who was rape by her own father, well turns out she was able to get pregnant. The doctor told her that if she went and had the baby there was a 99.9 percent chance that both her and the baby would die. She went to her priest to ask if it was alright to have an abortion, he of course said no, saying it was a sin.

So when my priest asked us what we thought I told them this.

"Well the probability was 99.9 percent chance that both her and the baby would die, so as a rationalist miracles don't happen to any one, and a nine year old's body isn't capable of giving birth, and with such a high chance I think it would be best to have an abortion. I don't care of the what ifs, because 1% is not enough reason to take a chance and lose not one but two lives, and if god doesn't pardon her then tough s**t because the harsh reality is, either way both her and the baby are going to die, you know why? because the chances of survival are too low."

So my answer is yes, I don''t give a flying s**t about human rights and what not, if killing the fetus off before both dies can save at least one precious life then so be it, now women who have consensual sex and use abortion as birth control, they need to get punched in the face. If it was from rape, then I can't blame you for not wanting to give birth to the baby but if you do it because you couldn't keep your damn legs closed, and didn't wrap it before you tapped it, then tough you ******** up there is a thing called a condom and birth control, so both peeps need to take responsibility.

I'm all for abortion but it depends on the reason, if you don't have a good one then you should take responsibility, you don't have to keep the child, but at least make sure it has a good life because it was your irresponsible attitude that got you pregnant.

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this is absolutely right except for a few things in my opinion, i am not all for abortion i am against it with the exception of things stated above, also is it not true that a parasite is alive and what of the potential of that baby you are killing inside you? yes i believe that that the world is vastly overpopulated but abortion is not the answer , i think other means such as a condom are far better for both people and in my opinion people should not be allow to have a child unless that are stable with money ad have good parenting figure for the child so that it does not end up like most of the world, trash to society, people need to open and close their mind to fully appreciate every situation.

i am against abortion unless there is a substantial need for it inclusion any medical issues on both parts (parent or child)  
PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:48 pm
Aoko Aozaki
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A fetus is a parasite until it is born. It doesn't really have any rights as far as the law goes.

This sums up anything I'd have to say.

Holy s**t I found you in a debate guild.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA.  

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:45 pm
There are three things people usually say when they are stating that abortion should be illegal.


  • Abortion is wrong, because it is murder.
  • Abortion is wrong, because God said so.
  • Not giving a fetus a chance is wrong.


First of all, all of these are personal opinions. Why should your personal opinions be more important than another person's personal opinions? What gives you the right to decide whether or not their actions are correct?
Under this school of thought, law is brought into question. What gives one the right to decide the rules? Well, its simple, they provide order and safety. The country was created on them, and it attracted people to here. So it is their choice to be subject to the rules.

Crime rates were very high once upon a time, before 1996. They spiked, and nobody knew why or how to stop it. Rewind eighteen years, and a court case is being fought. Roe vs. Wade. It decided that abortion would be legal.
Not to stereotype, but statistics say that families with criminal history that participate in criminal activities are usually the ones that have abortions. This means, that eighteen years later, in 1996, when those babies would be in their crime prime time, there was a significantly lesser amount of criminal teenagers for they had all been aborted. So if you look at it from a "does it benefit society?" standpoint, yes, legal abortion does.

The first point says that abortion is murder, when it is really impossible to call it murder. It is also impossible to say it is not murder. Defining it as murder or not murder is oversimplifying it. It cannot be classified into either category, so it needs its own. That is what many people don't see today. If its not born into a human, how is it murder? If it would have been a human, how is it not murder? Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

The second point is according to your own religion. Once again, why should that apply to others? Let yourself live by that code, don't impose it on others.

It is wrong? Well, what is wrong, what is right? Once again, the law does not define here, nor should it. It is once again a personal opinion, seeing a pattern here?  
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