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Q: why are your answers not straight? 26 Morality and Religion 3/6/15 4:40am
LoveLoud837
Assuming there's any reasonable way to filter for trustworthiness among the several different invisibles postulated. Therein lies the trick, though. Hyper-short form: no, we can't know that. I can get help using microscopes from scientists all over the world, including places hostile to each other; and if I'm viewing the same type of sample (let's say a drop of my blood each time,) then I w ...
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3/5/15 7:29am
Sandokiri
Q: why are your answers not straight? 26 Morality and Religion 3/6/15 4:40am
LoveLoud837
AA = anonymous attributes, who posted in this thread before. Also, it is possible to demonstrate the existence of cells without understanding how to use a microscope - even if you hold that only direct observation is sufficient evidence to count as proof, you can look while someone else operates the microscope. (Actually, based on the analogy, this would explain quite a few things. But I'll ...
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3/5/15 5:33am
Sandokiri
Dinosaurs in the Bible? YES. Christianity. 39 Extended Discussion 3/5/15 8:39am
anonymous attributes
You short-change yourself; creationist scholars are not smarter than you. They're just rather good at convincing people with their style. you deal in imagine and the Greeks, I will continue looking for answers. I deal in considering whether ideas have - or can have - support. But keep this in mind. There's a difference between these two approaches: 1. Obtaining the facts, and deriving ...
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3/5/15 3:05am
Sandokiri
Dinosaurs in the Bible? YES. Christianity. 39 Extended Discussion 3/5/15 8:39am
anonymous attributes
We do need evidence for whether any hypothesis is consistent with reality; and the more spectacular the claim against what is known, the more spectacular the evidence must be. So yes, there is no current evidence for a fire-breathing, semi-aquatic, predatory dinosaur having lived within the last three thousand years. There is evidence that the descriptions of animals and/or their fossils g ...
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3/5/15 1:56am
Sandokiri
Dinosaurs in the Bible? YES. Christianity. 39 Extended Discussion 3/5/15 8:39am
anonymous attributes
The biggest problem with claiming dinosaur (as Hovind liked to) is that we would need evidence of their being alive well within human history. We have that for, say, woolly mammoths which lived on isolated arctic islands until about 2000 BCE, whereupon they rapidly vanished, most likely due to human predation. We don't have that for dinosaurs; we don't have evidence of those (other than bird ...
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3/5/15 12:17am
Sandokiri
Dinosaurs in the Bible? YES. Christianity. 39 Extended Discussion 3/5/15 8:39am
anonymous attributes
Great. I am not trying to persuade you necessarily, but we both have presented our side, and you know why I reject your suggestion, and I know why you reject mine. We keep on with the general same information but explain it differently. I think at this point, if we arent trying to persuade each other, we will have to agree to disagree on who or what this Leviathan is. Now as far as the 1611 tra ...
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3/4/15 1:36am
Sandokiri
Dinosaurs in the Bible? YES. Christianity. 39 Extended Discussion 3/5/15 8:39am
anonymous attributes
I had been unaware of any specific request to do a line-by-line analysis of the chapter, so there is that. We'll set that aside though, as it is no longer of consequence. :puddi: Disagree. I am debating an extinct creature here that we do not see today, a great creature. That is the whole reason I am debiting. You are assuming such a great creature could not exist because you do not see it ...
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3/3/15 9:22pm
Sandokiri
Dinosaurs in the Bible? YES. Christianity. 39 Extended Discussion 3/5/15 8:39am
anonymous attributes
Short form: If you're going to keep quoting creationists, then you're not going to hold my interest. Biblical crypto-zoology is something that I do kinda have interest in - and I will say that in the course of this thread I have learned some things - both of palaeo-zoology and of ancient Hebrew. It's not in every such discussion that I can walk away with that. However, I'm not interested in w ...
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3/3/15 4:13am
Sandokiri
Dinosaurs in the Bible? YES. Christianity. 39 Extended Discussion 3/5/15 8:39am
anonymous attributes
I'm encouraging you to look at it in another way. You're refusing because you're locked into your own preconceived idea. mankind did coexist with some of the megafauna. Now you are lying. You said "prehistory" are the 7+-meter long crocodiles prehistory, or not? You don't even understand the word prehistory: it refers to all of time before the development of writing (around the 3000s BCE). ...
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3/2/15 11:59pm
Sandokiri
Dinosaurs in the Bible? YES. Christianity. 39 Extended Discussion 3/5/15 8:39am
anonymous attributes
Shortening post with spoiler tags. This is likely to be my last post for this thread. Not certainly, but likely. It's based on more facts than your creationist sources can muster. Hold it right there. Am I arguing from a Greek standpoint? This is a straw man argument. Except that the Septuagint translated those terms drakwn (or drakontos, in the genitive,) wherefore the Latin used draco ...
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3/2/15 3:06am
Sandokiri
Dinosaurs in the Bible? YES. Christianity. 39 Extended Discussion 3/5/15 8:39am
anonymous attributes
Except that they didn't describe dinosaurs. We've already handled re'em and behemoth; tannyn and leviathan are no harder. Ancient cultures called what we know today to be called dinosaurs, they called dragons, all over the world. They had depictions of them, writings and descriptions of them which fit what we know today to be dinosaurs, yet they called them dragons, serpents, terrible beas ...
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3/1/15 9:35pm
Sandokiri
Dinosaurs in the Bible? YES. Christianity. 39 Extended Discussion 3/5/15 8:39am
anonymous attributes
The distinction between "reptiles" (lepidosaurs, which includes lizards, snakes, other things you typically think of as reptiles that aren't crocodile-shaped) is made in the sternum and teeth. Snakes are here because they're evidently related to lizards. Between crocodiles and dinosaurs, it's ankle structure; crocs can surprisingly switch between squat and upright running, with squat being ...
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3/1/15 5:35pm
Sandokiri
Scientific Biblical superiority of its TIME: Christianity. 28 Extended Discussion 3/2/15 12:46am
anonymous attributes
That's... odd, that you've gone that long without them quoting 1 Corinthians 7 at you. The short form: marriage sucks, unless you're really horny and at risk of running about having arbitrary sex. In that case, you should get married so that you have a single valid target for your arbitrary sex. Paul of Tarsus, doling out marriage advice.
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3/1/15 3:19pm
Sandokiri
Explain A Game......The Wrong Way 206 Gaming Discussion 3/6/15 5:52am
Final Lucius
Yep. :3nod: It was the "it is not possible to prepare," alluding to YOU ARE NOT PREPARED.
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3/1/15 5:23am
Sandokiri
Explain A Game......The Wrong Way 206 Gaming Discussion 3/6/15 5:52am
Final Lucius
Most of it, yes. I left a hint to identify which one. :3nod:
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3/1/15 2:01am
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