The Official and Original GR Mobbing Guide (OPEN)

[MisterIRaven]

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That was the worst response I've ever gotten.
1. Person has wish and has potential to grab aggro.
2. BDs and NFs pack a punch that kid would be a one hit kill.
3. When a BD uses its crowd control it causes the aggro to shift at random so without meat this kid will be raped by whatever is in the room.

Dude, calm down. There's no need to set out an attack ( it is an attack to inform someone they have just sent the worst response ever ) against anyone. All I read was Curt trying to explain possibly why Kenny's sets don't mirror your own.

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That's called straight forward. You should have been able to look at that ring set and say "Hey, that definitely wouldn't work" Use some common sense, saying stuff like that puts a huge target on your back.

Call me silly, but I don't say a set stupid until I fill it with buffs. In fact it looks like every set has room for meat and Kenny simply did not include that in the sets, leaving it to be someone's personal choice rather then a requirement. Also, there's no need to be so mean.

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The closest thing there is for justifying going veggie is having SH. But that'd be far too stressful to keep R4ed on everyone.

Very untrue. I've done DMS since day one. I've been doing GR since about day 3-5. I used to carry SH in every crew. I could heal, attack, tape, and keep R4 SH on everyone in crew. It's not stressful at all.

Are you sure you're on the same page as me?

I'm sure I'm not because I just argued with you on a lot of your points. I would appriciate a real reply to one that questions the validity of mine simply because it's not the same view as yours.

What's the point in Curt trying to explain why Kenny changed the sets? He said it himself he hasn't used this method to GR before!

"can you say for a fact that anything is actually missing, assuming you and mage have different styles of this method?

he may have excluded certain qualities of your style because he preferred them in Mage's"

The set up Kenny displayed shows the method I use, not Mage's. (Don't jump in to corner someone unless you've read everything.)

"leaving it to be someone's personal choice rather then a requirement."

Not having meat isn't a choice I just got done explaining this to Curt. (I consider this pulling a point out of your a** just to look good)

Porno, bud. You're talking about how you've done GR. You haven't even done GR mobbing. If you tried to have people veggie in GR mobbing you'd have a difficult time keeping SH R4ed on everyone. It would turn into a hassle.

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What's the point in Curt trying to explain why Kenny changed the sets? He said it himself he hasn't used this method to GR before!
I think he was trying to point out Kenny wasn't making this guide based off just your methods, but methods from you and Mage and did admit to being not used to the style.

"can you say for a fact that anything is actually missing, assuming you and mage have different styles of this method?

he may have excluded certain qualities of your style because he preferred them in Mage's"

The set up Kenny displayed shows the method I use, not Mage's. (Don't jump in to corner someone unless you've read everything.)

"leaving it to be someone's personal choice rather then a requirement."

Not having meat isn't a choice I just got done explaining this to Curt. (I consider this pulling a point out of your a** just to look good)
I wouldn't know, I admit to not having done this. I won't claim to be a master or a genius about it. I was trying to provide why Kenny didn't include meat. I have no idea why, perhaps it was just an oversite on his part. I couldn't possibly tell you the real reason.

Porno, bud. You're talking about how you've done GR. You haven't even done GR mobbing. If you tried to have people veggie in GR mobbing you'd have a difficult time keeping SH R4ed on everyone. It would turn into a hassle.

Uh, I'm trying not to be rude, but please don't call me bud. I feel you don't talk to me very nicely and don't really care what I have to say. You're right, I don't know what it's like, but I have been in crews where i had a demanding job, most everyone went without meat, and I could still keep up R4 SH/

Edit for the first reply: I meant to say I'm pretty sure Curt was just trying to provide some reasoning and ask a question, nothing more.

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What's the point in Curt trying to explain why Kenny changed the sets? He said it himself he hasn't used this method to GR before!
I think he was trying to point out Kenny wasn't making this guide based off just your methods, but methods from you and Mage and did admit to being not used to the style.

"can you say for a fact that anything is actually missing, assuming you and mage have different styles of this method?

he may have excluded certain qualities of your style because he preferred them in Mage's"

The set up Kenny displayed shows the method I use, not Mage's. (Don't jump in to corner someone unless you've read everything.)

"leaving it to be someone's personal choice rather then a requirement."

Not having meat isn't a choice I just got done explaining this to Curt. (I consider this pulling a point out of your a** just to look good)
I wouldn't know, I admit to not having done this. I won't claim to be a master or a genius about it. I was trying to provide why Kenny didn't include meat. I have no idea why, perhaps it was just an oversite on his part. I couldn't possibly tell you the real reason.

Porno, bud. You're talking about how you've done GR. You haven't even done GR mobbing. If you tried to have people veggie in GR mobbing you'd have a difficult time keeping SH R4ed on everyone. It would turn into a hassle.

Uh, I'm trying not to be rude, but please don't call me bud. I feel you don't talk to me very nicely and don't really care what I have to say. You're right, I don't know what it's like, but I have been in crews where i had a demanding job, most everyone went without meat, and I could still keep up R4 SH/

This seems to be going in circles...

Kenny definitely used how I set up. Told by the dual cats.

Kenny probably read what I said to someone about attempting to do GR with a meatless catter and adrener or he just got ahead of himself in an effort to make this guide before anyone else.

You talk about how demanding your jobs are but your job was to R4 SH for the tank and the BU. You don't know what you're talking about.

I'm sorry if you feel offended but it isn't my job to be sweet. My job is to be straight forward. I have people like you two asking questions that you could figure out on your own, just to make things complicated.

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This seems to be going in circles...

Kenny definitely used how I set up. Told by the dual cats.

Kenny probably read what I said to someone about attempting to do GR with a meatless catter and adrener or he just got ahead of himself in an effort to make this guide before anyone else.

You talk about how demanding your jobs are but your job was to R4 SH for the tank and the BU. You don't know what you're talking about.

I'm sorry if you feel offended but it isn't my job to be sweet. My job is to be straight forward. I have people like you two asking questions that you could figure out on your own, just to make things complicated.

1. I don't know any of your sets. I don't know why he has posted what he did, I already admitted this. I'm not claiming to know.
2. My job was to Tape, Heal, and keep R4 on myself, the tank, and the crew. I was able to do this, keep up my other buff, and still do my job.
3. You can be a little nicer. It's daunting to come into forums and being told I'm stupid because I ask for clarification. I will admit right now, I'm not the smartest person and I can be really ditzy. This means I can easily get confused so I ask. I'm also very particular on facts, I like to be 100% sure.

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This seems to be going in circles...

Kenny definitely used how I set up. Told by the dual cats.

Kenny probably read what I said to someone about attempting to do GR with a meatless catter and adrener or he just got ahead of himself in an effort to make this guide before anyone else.

You talk about how demanding your jobs are but your job was to R4 SH for the tank and the BU. You don't know what you're talking about.

I'm sorry if you feel offended but it isn't my job to be sweet. My job is to be straight forward. I have people like you two asking questions that you could figure out on your own, just to make things complicated.

1. I don't know any of your sets. I don't know why he has posted what he did, I already admitted this. I'm not claiming to know.
2. My job was to Tape, Heal, and keep R4 on myself, the tank, and the crew. I was able to do this, keep up my other buff, and still do my job.
3. You can be a little nicer. It's daunting to come into forums and being told I'm stupid because I ask for clarification. I will admit right now, I'm not the smartest person and I can be really ditzy. This means I can easily get confused so I ask. I'm also very particular on facts, I like to be 100% sure.

1. I posted the correct sets, you seemed to have over looked them. Actually the sets I posted are all over this thread.

2. That's not even a hard job, how can you compare keeping SH R4 on the WHOLE crew when all you've ever done is keep it on yourself and the tank?

3. This is as nice as I get when I have 3-4 people trying to corner me. I'm not asking about your personal feelings, how bright you are or about your OCD for facts. What I want is to get it through to people that tanking isn't the only efficient way to do things.

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This seems to be going in circles...

Kenny definitely used how I set up. Told by the dual cats.

Kenny probably read what I said to someone about attempting to do GR with a meatless catter and adrener or he just got ahead of himself in an effort to make this guide before anyone else.

You talk about how demanding your jobs are but your job was to R4 SH for the tank and the BU. You don't know what you're talking about.

I'm sorry if you feel offended but it isn't my job to be sweet. My job is to be straight forward. I have people like you two asking questions that you could figure out on your own, just to make things complicated.

1. I don't know any of your sets. I don't know why he has posted what he did, I already admitted this. I'm not claiming to know.
2. My job was to Tape, Heal, and keep R4 on myself, the tank, and the crew. I was able to do this, keep up my other buff, and still do my job.
3. You can be a little nicer. It's daunting to come into forums and being told I'm stupid because I ask for clarification. I will admit right now, I'm not the smartest person and I can be really ditzy. This means I can easily get confused so I ask. I'm also very particular on facts, I like to be 100% sure.

1. I posted the correct sets, you seemed to have over looked them. Actually the sets I posted are all over this thread.

2. That's not even a hard job, how can you compare keeping SH R4 on the WHOLE crew when all you've ever done is keep it on yourself and the tank?

3. This is as nice as I get when I have 3-4 people trying to corner me. I'm not asking about your personal feelings, how bright you are or about your OCD for facts. My job is to get it through to people that tanking isn't the only efficient way to do things.

1. Again, I don't claim knowledge. I posted what I thought and that is all. I'm not going to argue until I'm blue in the face because in this case I don't have backing. I already admitted.

2. You aren't reading. I kept it on the whole crew as well as myself and the tank.

3. Your numbers went from two people to three to four people? I never said anything to the contrary. Tanking has just always been my preference.

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[MisterIRaven]

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This seems to be going in circles...

Kenny definitely used how I set up. Told by the dual cats.

Kenny probably read what I said to someone about attempting to do GR with a meatless catter and adrener or he just got ahead of himself in an effort to make this guide before anyone else.

You talk about how demanding your jobs are but your job was to R4 SH for the tank and the BU. You don't know what you're talking about.

I'm sorry if you feel offended but it isn't my job to be sweet. My job is to be straight forward. I have people like you two asking questions that you could figure out on your own, just to make things complicated.

1. I don't know any of your sets. I don't know why he has posted what he did, I already admitted this. I'm not claiming to know.
2. My job was to Tape, Heal, and keep R4 on myself, the tank, and the crew. I was able to do this, keep up my other buff, and still do my job.
3. You can be a little nicer. It's daunting to come into forums and being told I'm stupid because I ask for clarification. I will admit right now, I'm not the smartest person and I can be really ditzy. This means I can easily get confused so I ask. I'm also very particular on facts, I like to be 100% sure.

1. I posted the correct sets, you seemed to have over looked them. Actually the sets I posted are all over this thread.

2. That's not even a hard job, how can you compare keeping SH R4 on the WHOLE crew when all you've ever done is keep it on yourself and the tank?

3. This is as nice as I get when I have 3-4 people trying to corner me. I'm not asking about your personal feelings, how bright you are or about your OCD for facts. My job is to get it through to people that tanking isn't the only efficient way to do things.

1. Again, I don't claim knowledge. I posted what I thought and that is all. I'm not going to argue until I'm blue in the face because in this case I don't have backing. I already admitted.

2. You aren't reading. I kept it on the whole crew as well as myself and the tank.

3. Your numbers went from two people to three to four people? I never said anything to the contrary. Tanking has just always been my preference.

1. Glad to hear it.

2. Multiple people I know have said you DO NOT use SH on the crew aside from yourself, the BU and the tanker. You feel you don't have to. (I don't name drop so don't ask)

3." I will admit right now, I'm not the smartest person and I can be really ditzy. This means I can easily get confused so I ask. I'm also very particular on facts, I like to be 100% sure." You said three things right there. ^ I know you prefer tanking. I'm not putting this out here for just you though. Most of the Dms community doesn't even know how to set up properly for runs without tanker and this will open up doorways for these people..

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This seems to be going in circles...

Kenny definitely used how I set up. Told by the dual cats.

Kenny probably read what I said to someone about attempting to do GR with a meatless catter and adrener or he just got ahead of himself in an effort to make this guide before anyone else.

You talk about how demanding your jobs are but your job was to R4 SH for the tank and the BU. You don't know what you're talking about.

I'm sorry if you feel offended but it isn't my job to be sweet. My job is to be straight forward. I have people like you two asking questions that you could figure out on your own, just to make things complicated.

1. I don't know any of your sets. I don't know why he has posted what he did, I already admitted this. I'm not claiming to know.
2. My job was to Tape, Heal, and keep R4 on myself, the tank, and the crew. I was able to do this, keep up my other buff, and still do my job.
3. You can be a little nicer. It's daunting to come into forums and being told I'm stupid because I ask for clarification. I will admit right now, I'm not the smartest person and I can be really ditzy. This means I can easily get confused so I ask. I'm also very particular on facts, I like to be 100% sure.

1. I posted the correct sets, you seemed to have over looked them. Actually the sets I posted are all over this thread.

2. That's not even a hard job, how can you compare keeping SH R4 on the WHOLE crew when all you've ever done is keep it on yourself and the tank?

3. This is as nice as I get when I have 3-4 people trying to corner me. I'm not asking about your personal feelings, how bright you are or about your OCD for facts. My job is to get it through to people that tanking isn't the only efficient way to do things.

1. Again, I don't claim knowledge. I posted what I thought and that is all. I'm not going to argue until I'm blue in the face because in this case I don't have backing. I already admitted.

2. You aren't reading. I kept it on the whole crew as well as myself and the tank.

3. Your numbers went from two people to three to four people? I never said anything to the contrary. Tanking has just always been my preference.

1. Glad to hear it.

2. Multiple people I know have said you DO NOT use SH on the crew aside from yourself, the BU and the tanker. You feel you don't have to. (I don't name drop so don't ask)

3." I will admit right now, I'm not the smartest person and I can be really ditzy. This means I can easily get confused so I ask. I'm also very particular on facts, I like to be 100% sure." You said three things right there. ^ I know you prefer tanking. I'm not putting this out here for just you though. Most of the Dms community doesn't even know how to set up properly for runs without tanker and this will open up doorways for these people..

2. I don't, now. Because I'm a lazy ********. I reallyreally am. I used to in the old days of DMS, back when Aseres would play. It was like a personal goal to make sure it stayed on and I was damn good at it. Also, in crypt if I have SH I do make sure it stays on everyone person as much as possible. Of course sometimes it will drop, things happens.

Edit: 3. I don't get the quote and what it has to o with anything.

[MisterIRaven]

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This seems to be going in circles...

Kenny definitely used how I set up. Told by the dual cats.

Kenny probably read what I said to someone about attempting to do GR with a meatless catter and adrener or he just got ahead of himself in an effort to make this guide before anyone else.

You talk about how demanding your jobs are but your job was to R4 SH for the tank and the BU. You don't know what you're talking about.

I'm sorry if you feel offended but it isn't my job to be sweet. My job is to be straight forward. I have people like you two asking questions that you could figure out on your own, just to make things complicated.

1. I don't know any of your sets. I don't know why he has posted what he did, I already admitted this. I'm not claiming to know.
2. My job was to Tape, Heal, and keep R4 on myself, the tank, and the crew. I was able to do this, keep up my other buff, and still do my job.
3. You can be a little nicer. It's daunting to come into forums and being told I'm stupid because I ask for clarification. I will admit right now, I'm not the smartest person and I can be really ditzy. This means I can easily get confused so I ask. I'm also very particular on facts, I like to be 100% sure.

1. I posted the correct sets, you seemed to have over looked them. Actually the sets I posted are all over this thread.

2. That's not even a hard job, how can you compare keeping SH R4 on the WHOLE crew when all you've ever done is keep it on yourself and the tank?

3. This is as nice as I get when I have 3-4 people trying to corner me. I'm not asking about your personal feelings, how bright you are or about your OCD for facts. My job is to get it through to people that tanking isn't the only efficient way to do things.

1. Again, I don't claim knowledge. I posted what I thought and that is all. I'm not going to argue until I'm blue in the face because in this case I don't have backing. I already admitted.

2. You aren't reading. I kept it on the whole crew as well as myself and the tank.

3. Your numbers went from two people to three to four people? I never said anything to the contrary. Tanking has just always been my preference.

1. Glad to hear it.

2. Multiple people I know have said you DO NOT use SH on the crew aside from yourself, the BU and the tanker. You feel you don't have to. (I don't name drop so don't ask)

3." I will admit right now, I'm not the smartest person and I can be really ditzy. This means I can easily get confused so I ask. I'm also very particular on facts, I like to be 100% sure." You said three things right there. ^ I know you prefer tanking. I'm not putting this out here for just you though. Most of the Dms community doesn't even know how to set up properly for runs without tanker and this will open up doorways for these people..

2. I don't, now. Because I'm a lazy ********. I reallyreally am. I used to in the old days of DMS, back when Aseres would play. It was like a personal goal to make sure it stayed on and I was damn good at it. Also, in crypt if I have SH I do make sure it stays on everyone person as much as possible. Of course sometimes it will drop, things happens.

Porno. you don't have any points to make and you've started treating this like it's personal.
This started with me saying it would be a hassle to keep R4 SH on a meatless crew, and it was a theoretical. It wasn't meant to be brought into a discussion. Yet just to prove a point, just because you wanted to look good, you tried to call me out on it. You even skipped my third point, which was actually the most important part of that post. Your behavior is is self centered and irritable. I won't be replying to anything else you have to say.

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Although a interesting style to try....
Ugh Cat I hate you.....

I think sticking to kiting the crap out of monsters is so much better than waiting for cat to wear off, unless you QS + Cat....

Either way . I won't critize much since I haven't tried this style. And I should try once....

There's no room for QS and if you use cat properly that doesn't happen. >-<

Mmm as I said. I haven't tried the method. So I can't not have a right to criticize much. Let alone suggest ect.
Unless I've tried it. But it makes me wonder why Kenny posted such thing when I hear the Great Raven gave and had most of the accurate information.

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Ahaha still getting downvoted.

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porno loves giving kisses (if you're a good kisser) and will kiss you like a filthy hooker from the 3rd floor of a crappy motel. shes like a raging octobearger, r4ing kisses on you with her droopy lips (don't ask, shes a busy woman <3 ). but she won't know you want her to maul you with a one-of-a-kind experience unless you ask. so if you want / need r4 sh (good kissers only, gotta satisfy) then just ask.


But in all honesty Raven idk why you got so defensive.
These people kind suck with words, remember i'm the word king?! Lets try this.

Maybe Kenny asked for input from other people ( Mage, Val, Quin??) and that is why the set is different. But honestly you won't know unless you ask Kenny, so it is useless to target Curt and Porno who were merely trying to help you come up with a reason as to why there is no meat. Curt and Porno didn't make the guide, and have shown that they think meat could be optional where Kenny completely left meat out of the equation. So they were agreeing with you in a roundabout way while trying to brainstorm why Kenny didn't include it. They already admitted they have not mobbed GR, that this was your style, and you probably know more about it than them. But you continued to call them stupid. Which wasn't very fair.

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1. I posted the correct sets, you seemed to have over looked them. Actually the sets I posted are all over this thread.

2. That's not even a hard job, how can you compare keeping SH R4 on the WHOLE crew when all you've ever done is keep it on yourself and the tank?

3. This is as nice as I get when I have 3-4 people trying to corner me. I'm not asking about your personal feelings, how bright you are or about your OCD for facts. My job is to get it through to people that tanking isn't the only efficient way to do things.

1. Again, I don't claim knowledge. I posted what I thought and that is all. I'm not going to argue until I'm blue in the face because in this case I don't have backing. I already admitted.

2. You aren't reading. I kept it on the whole crew as well as myself and the tank.

3. Your numbers went from two people to three to four people? I never said anything to the contrary. Tanking has just always been my preference.

1. Glad to hear it.

2. Multiple people I know have said you DO NOT use SH on the crew aside from yourself, the BU and the tanker. You feel you don't have to. (I don't name drop so don't ask)

3." I will admit right now, I'm not the smartest person and I can be really ditzy. This means I can easily get confused so I ask. I'm also very particular on facts, I like to be 100% sure." You said three things right there. ^ I know you prefer tanking. I'm not putting this out here for just you though. Most of the Dms community doesn't even know how to set up properly for runs without tanker and this will open up doorways for these people..

2. I don't, now. Because I'm a lazy ********. I reallyreally am. I used to in the old days of DMS, back when Aseres would play. It was like a personal goal to make sure it stayed on and I was damn good at it. Also, in crypt if I have SH I do make sure it stays on everyone person as much as possible. Of course sometimes it will drop, things happens.

Porno. you don't have any points to make and you've started treating this like it's personal.
This started with me saying it would be a hassle to keep R4 SH on a meatless crew, and it was a theoretical. It wasn't meant to be brought into a discussion. Yet just to prove a point, just because you wanted to look good, you tried to call me out on it. You even skipped my third point, which was actually the most important part of that post. Your behavior is is self centered and irritable. I won't be replying to anything else you have to say.

Sorry about that. Also I didn't respond to the third point because I wasn't sure what you were trying to point out by bringing in something I said earlier. It didn't seem relevant to what I said at all, and then the rest of it kind of didn't get read because of that.

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fixed. i made this late at night; sorry about that sweatdrop