About recent nerfs and ideas to fix it

[RsSepulcher]

Myrielle

Erynne

That was weird.

I tested the Pirate Set and Mantis as a 7.0 in Gold Beach.

Mantis was scoring very closely to Hack at RR1 but Mantis was consistent with the high 90s and low 100s. Hack sometimes ranged 84-115. Hack did 252 at RR4 against a golem and Mantis did 182. Slash was feeling sad and left out hitting only 64-83. Shark Attack even sadder at 58-81.

A rapid fire weapon like Mantis is quite unbalanced at that power. Too much for anywhere except the SS though.

Mantis - Strong
Hack - Strong
Slash - Moderate
Dervish - Moderate
Shark Attack - Moderate
Bump - Moderate
Guns- Moderate
Shuriken - Moderate
Hornet's - Feeble
Fire Rain - Feeble
Solar Rays - Moderate
HWB - Moderate
Hunter's Bow - MODERATE

Holy cow. That would explain why my Hunter's Bow was doing damage close to my Slash. I wonder if the Speed Buff changed?

damn, all the rings were nerfed!? wtf my hunters bow was just tested, im only hitting mid 80's with it!? wtf also, slash has been reduced, it hits high when i hit more than one animted with it, bout mid 100, can anyone check this to confirm?

[RsSepulcher]

maui boy no ka oi

RsSepulcher

Erynne

That was weird.

I tested the Pirate Set and Mantis as a 7.0 in Gold Beach.

Mantis was scoring very closely to Hack at RR1 but Mantis was consistent with the high 90s and low 100s. Hack sometimes ranged 84-115. Hack did 252 at RR4 against a golem and Mantis did 182. Slash was feeling sad and left out hitting only 64-83. Shark Attack even sadder at 58-81.

A rapid fire weapon like Mantis is quite unbalanced at that power. Too much for anywhere except the SS though.

wow, i use shark last week and hit high 130's was shark nerfed? im using slash now and im hitting bout 90's mid 80's, wow has the game gotten so unbalanced? guns ring seems to be a fast weapon as well and i tested it just see the damage output, i hit bout 89 average, its at 10cl, can anyone check this?

Oops sorry I posted this only in the zOMG Elite thread I made.

maui boy no ka oi

Just went to check the ring strength and it seems that almost ALL the rings have been nerfed. Listing ones I currently see:
1. hack: superb-strong
2. bump: strong-moderate
3. slash: strong-moderate
4. shark attack: strong-moderate
5. fire rain: weak-feeble (not sure about this. Fire rain user please confirm)

yea i confirm fire rain has dropped from weak to feeble gonk

[maui boy no ka oi]

I seriously don't know what they're trying to do right now. It doesn't make any sense to me.

[RsSepulcher]

maui boy no ka oi

I seriously don't know what they're trying to do right now. It doesn't make any sense to me.

idk, there either trying to make the game harder to play or just trying to piss us off, but im telling you, THERE DOING A GREAT JOB AT PISSIN ME OFF scream

[RAFAKUN MORRY]

dude like i sead do the bug report even if it were an miss placed update witch it be the same as whit bandage and diagnose i mean they were suppose to get a buff at something in exchange for the nerf it be the same whit hack and the rest of the rings if you dont file the bug report the ring will yost stay how it is till they finish the update and instal it and if it was not an update and it is a bug then youl be running like you are right now whit a bugged ring till the devs find out of this bug so yea do the bug report

besides you already made a thread the devs can come in here at any random moment and find out for themselves

[Myrielle]

I checked some buffs. I'm not sure what changed.

Turtle - Armor - superb
Rock Armor - Armor - moderate
Teflon Spray - Armor - weak; Deflection - moderate
Improbability Sphere - Reflection - moderate
Pot Lid -Deflection - Large
Hunter's Bow - Speed - Moderate
Shuriken - Accuracy - Moderate
Heavy Water Balloon - Accuracy and Dodge - weak, Range -> Extreme (Was it like that before?)
Hot Foot - Range Extreme, Dodge - Moderate
Stat Buffs (Iron Will, Ghos, Divinity, Meat etc) - Moderate
Healing Halo - Weak
Bandage - weak
Diagnose -same
Wish - Superb, range - extreme
Defib - Strong
Gumshoe - Speed - superb

I didn't check for duration, stamina cost and actual range.

[RsSepulcher]

OK IM FILING A BUG REPORT NOW

[Erynne]

Myrielle

I checked some buffs. I'm not sure what changed.

Turtle - Armor - superb
Rock Armor - Armor - moderate
Teflon Spray - Armor - weak; Deflection - moderate
Improbability Sphere - Reflection - moderate
Pot Lid -Deflection - Large
Hunter's Bow - Speed - Moderate
Shuriken - Accuracy - Moderate
Heavy Water Balloon - Accuracy and Dodge - weak, Range -> Extreme (Was it like that before?)
Hot Foot - Range Extreme, Dodge - Moderate
Stat Buffs (Iron Will, Ghos, Divinity, Meat etc) - Moderate
Healing Halo - Weak
Bandage - weak
Diagnose -same
Wish - Superb, range - extreme
Defib - Strong
Gumshoe - Speed - superb

I didn't check for duration, stamina cost and actual range.

Aw. You beat me to it. I'm too lazy to check those values.

[Spartan05089234]

A message to the Gaia devs. Although I doubt they EVER listen to user-feedback. Maybe if there was a 99G-Cash feedback form they pay some attention to us.

anyways. zOMG devs. DO YOU KNOW HOW TO MAKE A GAME????

BALANCING is admirable. But randomly dropping the ability of all rings is JUST STUPID. The game is NOT too easy, and if it is there are ways for people to make it harder for themselves. Hard challenges, which you put in. The new SS, which is so unbalanced it hurts. Etc.

zOMG is supposed to be a casual MMO. DO YOU KNOW WHAT CASUAL MEANS? It means not having to plan out full-crew runs amongst a team with all the perfect rings a week in advance to make sure you have a shot at beating an area. It means not having to use ring polishers to make it a fair fight.

Luckily diagnose is the only affected ring among my usual set. That said, I still despise whoever it was that decided on this update. Funny note: bandage has been nerfed by 20%, the exact bonus a ring polisher gives you. Slight hint the devs want our money.

And now, a challenge.

I challenge any zOMG dev. ANY dev, to explain to me the logic behind constantly dropping the power of our rings. I then challenge them to show me that all rings are still useful.That's the point of balancing right? SO prove it. I DO NOT WANT a regular user to answer this challenge. I don't care what you have to say, because you do not know. I want to talk to someone either calling the shots, or informed about what's going on.

My eyes will explode out of my head if any G-staff member answers this by PM or otherwise, even just to mock me.

[RsSepulcher]

hell im not gonan file a bug report, just folowed da link, to much work, the heck with it, someone else can do it

[Spartan05089234]

A note to the people saying "file a bug report"

If any of the devs ever bothered to actually play this game, they'd know about something like that without reports needed. More proof that they don't give a damn about the final product is that they obviously don't pay much attention to that. Hence their informing us that it took 'em almost a year to notice that one of the most-beloved and talked about rings in the game (turtle) was widely used because it heals you which apparently was a glitch.

A note to the guy who said "they're taking away the healing effect but making turtle stronger."

STRONGER THAN "SO STRONG YOU'RE INVINCIBLE AND GET HEALED"?

[RsSepulcher]

Spartan05089234

A note to the people saying "file a bug report"

If any of the devs ever bothered to actually play this game, they'd know about something like that without reports needed. More proof that they don't give a damn about the final product is that they obviously don't pay much attention to that. Hence their informing us that it took 'em almost a year to notice that one of the most-beloved and talked about rings in the game (turtle) was widely used because it heals you which apparently was a glitch.

A note to the guy who said "they're taking away the healing effect but making turtle stronger."

STRONGER THAN "SO STRONG YOU'RE INVINCIBLE AND GET HEALED"?

well turtle is awesoe ring, and with the nerfs going around, it'll b only a matter of time b4 those rings begin to get affected stare

[Malignant Virus]

It's probably for the armour update yet to come. ninja

[Erynne]

Spartan05089234

A note to the people saying "file a bug report"

If any of the devs ever bothered to actually play this game, they'd know about something like that without reports needed. More proof that they don't give a damn about the final product is that they obviously don't pay much attention to that. Hence their informing us that it took 'em almost a year to notice that one of the most-beloved and talked about rings in the game (turtle) was widely used because it heals you which apparently was a glitch.

A note to the guy who said "they're taking away the healing effect but making turtle stronger."

STRONGER THAN "SO STRONG YOU'RE INVINCIBLE AND GET HEALED"?

Contrary to what you may thing, Qixter, Bron, swarf and other developers play zOMG among the other users and not just the testing servers.

[Spartan05089234]

Erynne

Spartan05089234

A note to the people saying "file a bug report"

If any of the devs ever bothered to actually play this game, they'd know about something like that without reports needed. More proof that they don't give a damn about the final product is that they obviously don't pay much attention to that. Hence their informing us that it took 'em almost a year to notice that one of the most-beloved and talked about rings in the game (turtle) was widely used because it heals you which apparently was a glitch.

A note to the guy who said "they're taking away the healing effect but making turtle stronger."

STRONGER THAN "SO STRONG YOU'RE INVINCIBLE AND GET HEALED"?

Contrary to what you may thing, Qixter, Bron, swarf and other developers play zOMG among the other users and not just the testing servers.

Really. And do they look at bug reports too?

Is that why the official zOMG Bug Report Thread (the one linked to in this forum's sticky) has zOMG spelled "zONG"? Yup I'm sure that place gets checked all the time, and the devs are constantly working to make the game more fun for casual players and endgamers/10.0's.

/barefaced lies